My squad went into a faction warfare battle the other day on the side of the Amarr. We absolutely destroyed our opposition, with them only holding a single objective for a total maximum time of 3 minutes. We held all 5 the entirety of the match outside of those three minutes. The images below are from the result of this match. Lucius Octavion and berzerka fist of the corp, 03M3NT30 M1N02, ended with the warpoint totals you see below. I would like to know how this is possible when your team loses every objective in no more than 3 minutes, you only get 7 kills, you did not use uplinks(the 3rd guy was their uplink guy), and were not supplying logistics the entire match, if at all.

More than anything, if you can explain the 2332 WP, please do because we were dumbfounded.

Their Scores

Our Scores Next to Theirs

Squad orders, kills, turret kills, vehicle kills, drop uplink spawns, and resupply/res's/reps.

Basically, a tac-ar logi driving around in an lav, being useful.

I just got to your last sentence - how do you know he wasnt? Were u spectating him? Hax?!

Getting the number isn't the question here. It is how they managed to do so while being destroyed. They held 1 objective for no more than 3 minutes and that was the end of them holding any objectives, they had almost no clones left when their MCC blew up, and you can look at the K/D for yourself. All of our installations were intact as well. The individuals in question sat in a tank in the red line, didn't blow up anything and only got 7 kills.

People have clearly misunderstood what the OP said - these guys did not do well in any manner whatsoever (by the sounds of things). If they didn't get many kills, hacks or installation destructions, the only thing that could have been getting them WP is uplinks and nanohives. If they nearly ran out of clones, then that's ~150 potential spawns at 25WP each. If each person stands on a nanohive and shoots until they get resupplied, that's another 10WP (+20% for the player and squad leader), I can see those sort of numbers being plausible.

I find this very hard to believe.... they hold only ONE objective for 3 minutes ? Something doesn't add on... do you have any evidence that you team lost the match.. ? Like a screenshot or something ?


Sorry... but you sound a bit like a Troll.

We won the match. Please look at the 2 screenshots I posted in the op.

Thank you for helping clarify for me. That is was I am saying, as I said, the 3rd guy on the list was the one laying down most the drop uplinks. I know this because we killed everyone in the area of the most drop uplink spawns that match, including the guy who was dropping them. Meaning he was not one of the 2 who did not die at all. The fact that they were in the tank was deduced from the fact that the only thing we know we did not kill was that and it was there the whole match and we know it killed roughly that number when we were raiding that nest where the guy the was spamming his drop uplinks on "E". Just look at the numbers for both sides.

So while your team dominated the game you did nothing but watch these guys, take note of what they were doing, analyzed what each member of their squad did, and topped the leader board as well?

You certainly are a talented man Mr.Skilfer.

Could they have had uplinks in the MCC or behind the tank or somewhere where most of the team could have been spawning in?

I second this but was trying to be more polite in my assertions.

Somewhere in the OP's post there is a misunderstanding on his part or a misrepresentation of the facts.

We did a lot of analysis and review afterwards because none of us could figure it out. We were crunching numbers too to see if he cold have been farming. That is why it seems like I was doing so much at once.

Right sorry... you talking about WP exploit ?... Nothing new. The same way that you K/D ratio exploits, by snipers and tanks.

Uh huh.

Can you link me to the security camera footage? Or the Instant replay button?

This is pretty baffling even knowing the current WP exploits that exist - 7 kills each is 350WP x 2 = 700WP. If they're both in the tank, each one gets 35WP more for the assist, so that's another 245WP x 2 = 490WP. With a squad order on the tank that's 20% extra 1190WP x 1.2 = 1428WP.

That means between them they earnt over 2000WP in some other way without getting any hacks or installation kills. The only way I can see it being possible is that they got ~70 spawns on uplinks, which would theoretically be possible without either of them dying or restocking at a supply depot if one of them was a logi with all equipment slots filled by uplinks.

A defend order in the tank, plus repair tools constantly on on it, could mount for the majority of that WP's.. also do you check if the Tank was a Command Center, where people could Re-spawn on it ? that could add more WP... maybe few resupply drops, and up-links too ?

Is plenty of ways to exploit WP's ....

As I said, I wish I had it recorded. Any person on that leaderboard can verify how the match went down through if you really are skeptical of the facts I have presented. It is not all that hard to piece together who was doing the big roles in a match based on the leaderboards though. Well-fit tanks and good snipers generally die a lot less if at all for example.

A defend order in the tank, plus repair tools constantly on on it, could mount for the majority of that WP's.. also do you check if the Tank was a Command Center, where people could Re-spawn on it ? that could add more WP... maybe few resupply drops, and up-links too ?

Is plenty of ways to exploit WP's ....

In fact, you can focus so much on raking in the WP that it becomes counter productive to winning.

This is the point I am getting at. I do not believe they were hacking or cheating. I figured they must have been farming it, but with how the match went down and without endangering themselves as well, I find it hard making the numbers add up to one person getting 2332 WP within reasonable means. Here is the map we were on.

Listen. From your title one can come in to this post and already make a fairly accurate assumption that you're a dramatic and emotional person.

There's nothing wrong with this. Most women are like this so you'll either relate well to them and do well in the dating scene or your a normal, emotionally health, woman.

All of that being said, your post is riddled with holes and provides little supporting facts. All we have here is continuous claims with new "evidence" rebutting the aforementioned claims. It sounds as if you're trying to defend something you know may be hard to swallow. The majority of your posts are coming from the stance that assume "you" were watching exactly what these guys were doing, which I suspect was put together with here say from your other young friends and an already biased mindset of 'these guys must be hacking because they got more wp and we own'.

Next time, if you would like to be taken seriously with these types of allegations you'll need to provide more then second hand anecdotal evidence about what the other team was doing to earn these totals.

Being on a losing team doesn't mean you can't rake in the WP. In fact, you can focus so much on raking in the WP that it becomes counter productive to winning.

I never got the impression from the OP that he's accusing anyone of hacking or cheating - he just seems genuinely confused, as most people would be, and is trying to figure out how this could have been accomplished. Instead of being asinine and rude, why don't you try to be helpful and offer some sort of actual explanation more specific than you can get lots of WP and still lose.

So if you don't believe they were hacking or cheating what is it you're having a tough time with?

Do you think CCP's math is wrong?

I am still having trouble understanding what you want.

I did, in my first post, but he's absolutely sure there's absolutely no way he ever took his eyes off of anyone in the squad so that they could have done that. Absolutely. Sure. Positively. Absolutely.

You don't get WP for repairing tanks or for people spawning on a tank CRU.

Maby there was a sniper or two next to that tank and he got out to revive them.. thats nice extra wp for you.

Don't you ?... that shows how much i know about WP exploits......

What about scanners ?

What he's not telling you is that he payed 0 attention to them and didnt notice the totals until after the match. Where he and his 5 buddies in squad chat started to have convenient, absolute, memory recollection about what the other team was doing the whole match, he then comes to the forums and proceeds to sucker you into his 'story'.

I have little patience for children crying wolf.

What he's not telling you is that he payed 0 attention to them and didnt notice the totals until after the match. Where he and his 5 buddies in squad chat started to have convenient, absolute, memory recollection about what the other team was doing the whole match, he then comes to the forums and proceeds to sucker you into his 'story'.

I have little patience for children crying wolf.

Please go and get over 1500WP on top of anything you could get from kills without dying and then explain how it's crying wolf for anyone to be confused by the accomplishment.

lol, just because you are not observant during a match and cannot recollect a chain of events does not mean we all are so inept. I am looking for people to help me crunch numbers to make sense of the situation. I have restated this fact several times now.

Crunch what numbers homie!?

You haven't told us anything.

You remember everything they weren't doing but remember nothing of what they were. They must be hacking!

WP are numbers. They are added up and calculated. The process of adding up and calculating numerical values from other numerical values is often referred to as "crunching numbers."

Typically, when you are 'crunching numbers' you have the numbers given to you as a data set and you 'crunch' those into your 'sum'

Your number crunching is looking for someone to give you the data set that equals your sum. The problem is, no one else was there to log this 'data set'

You've got a memory like an iron trap so surely you've got a strong enough imagination to come with some numbers to crunch to get your sum.

I suspect they must be hacking because there's no way you could be wrong about what they were doing the whole match. It's the only thing that makes sense. It must be true!

did u take in to account kill assists ?

25 wp each and u said it was a missile tank if they got and assist on all ur team members as i can see u have some losses might be woth adding those up

ive had 46 assists in one match 25 x 46 = 1150 wp

Done.

Someones gotta be the grown up in the room and tell the kids story time is over and it's bed time. Sorry if that makes me the 'bad guy'.

Done? Really? Okay, then please explain how and we'll lay this to rest.