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Mountain Bear
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.05.22 21:58:00 -
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Is there ant real incentive for doing the whole sha-bang and getting a gallente suit vs. getting the frame. Besides the reduction to PG/CPU? I am pressed for skill points, i just got the re-respec and I'm wondering if its worth the extra few million skill points.
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Green Living
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:10:00 -
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IMO? No. |
Selinate deux
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:24:00 -
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They cost less per suit, I believe. That was enough incentive for me. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:25:00 -
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You could save a lot of space for better modules with that bonus, and I'd personally consider Gallente the suit for real AR pros, not just shield tankers. |
Mountain Bear
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:28:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:You could save a lot of space for better modules with that bonus, and I'd personally consider Gallente the suit for real AR pros, not just shield tankers, thanks to the slot layout.
But the basic has the same exact specs as the gallente, excepy for their pg/cpu reduction |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:28:00 -
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The 25% increase to shield recharge rate would be nice, but is it worth the millions of SP required....Not unless you have 15mill SP And are specializing in solely the assault role.
The one Race I would even consider skilling into the Assault Role is Ammar. The 25% reduction to laser Weaponry heat build up in conjunction with the 25% shield recharge rate is almost worth it if you're using SR's.....Although I wouldn't even start skilling it until I had 8-10 mill SP. |
Mountain Bear
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:34:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:The 25% increase to shield recharge rate would be nice, but is it worth the millions of SP required....Not unless you have 15mill SP And are specializing in solely the assault role.
The one Race I would even consider skilling into the Assault Role is Ammar. The 25% reduction to laser Weaponry heat build up in conjunction with the 25% shield recharge rate is almost worth it if you're using SR's.....Although I wouldn't even start skilling it until I had 8-10 mill SP.
Well i only have 5.5 million. So should i just go Basic? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:37:00 -
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Both suits are getting looked into and the suits' bonuses. |
J'Hiera
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:38:00 -
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Mountain Bear wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:You could save a lot of space for better modules with that bonus, and I'd personally consider Gallente the suit for real AR pros, not just shield tankers, thanks to the slot layout. But the basic has the same exact specs as the gallente, excepy for their pg/cpu reduction
Get a Fitting Tool (somewhere on this forum), set it to All 5 and fit one Basic Proto, and one Specialized Proto. See how much Complex + Proto stuff you can fit in comparison.
That's when it starts to count.
For me, it's the extra juice I can squeeze out, plus the price reduction of the suit. And it looks super awesome. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:45:00 -
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Mountain Bear wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:The 25% increase to shield recharge rate would be nice, but is it worth the millions of SP required....Not unless you have 15mill SP And are specializing in solely the assault role.
The one Race I would even consider skilling into the Assault Role is Ammar. The 25% reduction to laser Weaponry heat build up in conjunction with the 25% shield recharge rate is almost worth it if you're using SR's.....Although I wouldn't even start skilling it until I had 8-10 mill SP. Well i only have 5.5 million. So should i just go Basic?
Yeah at that amount of SP I'd just go basic.
Keep in mind though proto suits are not the be all, king of battlefield suits that new players make them out to be. If you can't fill it out with complex module's and the core skills to support it you're no better of than a basic fit. But with your SP that shouldn't be an issue so long as you focus SP to your role/playstyle and don't waste SP on things you aren't absolutely sure you'll use. |
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xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries
148
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Posted - 2013.05.22 23:08:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:You could save a lot of space for better modules with that bonus, and I'd personally consider Gallente the suit for real AR pros, not just shield tankers, thanks to the slot layout.
Why? I thought the difference was whether you wanted to armour or shield tank? Can you explain your thoughts further? |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.05.22 23:08:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:They cost less per suit, I believe. That was enough incentive for me.
This would be the only reason the specialize, not only for Assault, but for ANY infantry role. The slot layout is mostly the same, but the cost of a specialized suit is less expensive (the only suit that doesn't have similar slots is the Amarr Heavy Frame Proto vs. Amarr Sentinel Proto).
The passives are nice too, but even I have to agree the passives are worthless depending on the racial Assault dropsuit. For example, the Assault bonus is a great passive to have for Caldari, since shields... Minmatar have high shields on Assault if I recall correctly and Amarr, while being armor tankers, still have a balanced based health pool of shields and armor.
However, the passive is completely worthless to the Gallente. If you are planning Gallente Assault, unless there is something that I overlooked (and disregarding the cheap ISK cost), it is NOT worth putting the SP into getting Gallente Assault, even for the bonuses. Just my 2 ISK though. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.05.22 23:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Both suits are getting looked into and the suits' bonuses.
Whew! Glad to see this! Any ETA on this, like will it be a hotfix, or will it be something much farther down the road (eg a couple of months)?
Not being sarcastic either just wondering because Assault suits need love soon........TM. lol |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
293
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Posted - 2013.05.23 01:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Both suits are getting looked into and the suits' bonuses.
that doesn't help us now though. As unless CCP is altering them w/in days, we will be stuck w/ a choice for weeks. Of course if they change something pos or neg; people will want another resepc saying what they have now isn't what is might be.
Ex: Caldari logi racial bonus goes from 5% ->2% . Will people want out as the suit doesn't "do" what it originally did.
Plus whenever they add all the other guns & weapon; you know people we require a respec as so much will be added, it changed the entire game |
Blamejudg3s KEQ
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
33
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Posted - 2013.05.23 01:23:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Both suits are getting looked into and the suits' bonuses. that doesn't help us now though. As unless CCP is altering them w/in days, we will be stuck w/ a choice for weeks. Of course if they change something pos or neg; people will want another resepc saying what they have now isn't what is might be. Ex: Caldari logi racial bonus goes from 5% ->2% . Will people want out as the suit doesn't "do" what it originally did. Plus whenever they add all the other guns & weapon; you know people we require a respec as so much will be added, it changed the entire game
to be fair I haven't asked for a respec.
But if they change the caldari logi into only using Secondary weapons, then I need to reevaluate whether that role is what is needed. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2013.05.23 01:31:00 -
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Oh yeah. It can save you some sp on other cpu/pg skills. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
495
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:00:00 -
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Mountain Bear wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:You could save a lot of space for better modules with that bonus, and I'd personally consider Gallente the suit for real AR pros, not just shield tankers, thanks to the slot layout. But the basic has the same exact specs as the gallente, excepy for their pg/cpu reduction
That fitting reduction is a major bonus for anyone who uses prototype weapons. Combine it with the relevant skills for the respective weapon, and you're turning a Duvolle Tac into a GEK as far as CPU & PG goes. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
495
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:12:00 -
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xAckie wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:You could save a lot of space for better modules with that bonus, and I'd personally consider Gallente the suit for real AR pros, not just shield tankers, thanks to the slot layout. Why? I thought the difference was whether you wanted to armour or shield tank? Can you explain your thoughts further?
The Gallente suit offers far more variety. The vast majority of Caldari players just want to run & gun with impunity, and only throw some damage mods into the mix so they can choose tank or gank.
A Gallente assault is unique in its ability to do both, or to make a glass cannon via some mobility upgrades, or even profile dampen for a real black ops fitting.
The ability to vary your fittings for the right scenario, and to be able to implement each effectively, is where this game surpasses any competition, because it gives the intelligent and strategic players the chance to compete alongside the crackshot grunts. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries
148
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Posted - 2013.05.23 06:13:00 -
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Thanks |
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