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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:02:00 -
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It's pretty cool now. I've been useing it to ninja hack the out lying objectives, and planting explosives on the out lying and main control point objectives. It's pretty fun acctualy. Just got through with a match that went down to the absolute wire (they had half a bar of armor left and we had a full bar) so it made me feel like I really made a difference. I had 9 remote explosives kills and three hacks. It's a lot of hard work though to maintain those objectives. A lot of back and forth planting RE.
With that said, the scout could do with a buff to the following:
More shield recharge rate: I would say bring it in line with the ishukone and blood raider. But, seeing as how that probably won't happen, the least you could do is bring it in line with a std LAV. Currently it takes WAY to long to get back into, and because you have to use your high slots to actually make the vehicle survivable, you don't have room to fit a shield recharger on it.
Higher top end speed: get rid of the +2% to turret rotation speed and replace it with 2 or three perscent bonus to vehicle top end speed. I mean you cannot sustain yourself in a fire fight with that vehicle anyway, so what the hell good is the turret buff.
anyway, that about covers it. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:14:00 -
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One more thing, its base speed currently isn't any higher than any of the other LAVs. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:16:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:One more thing, its base speed currently isn't any higher than any of the other LAVs.
Wut!?
F that then. |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:17:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:One more thing, its base speed currently isn't any higher than any of the other LAVs. Wut!? F that then.
They should really have these things on its stats page, I had to spec into it to find out. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:28:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:One more thing, its base speed currently isn't any higher than any of the other LAVs.
Yah but it accelerates quite a bit faster. They just need to buff the top end a bit. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:28:00 -
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Posted stats.
LLAV is better than SLAV. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:37:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Posted stats.
LLAV is better than SLAV.
It depends on what you are using it for. However, with the loss of a high slot and a low slot, and drastic decrease to total eHP, LLAV is definitely far less survivable in a combat situation. |
EEPLURIBUS onDUST
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:50:00 -
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I have posted before that the scout LAV's role is just completely overshadowed by the LLAV. the LLAV has almost double the armor hp (the Gallente LLAV has 2600 armor without any plates on, where the scout has 1400). The speeds are the same, and the SLAV has a 1 high 2 low slot layout where the logi has 3/3 and a tool that repairs up to 5 dropsuits at the same time, and that doesnt even take a slot at all.
My previous idea was to just take the gun off the SLAV and give it a total of 4 seats, including the driver's, buff the top speed a bit (Maybe 10-15 m/s?) or give it a top speed bonus on the SLAV per level, and give it one more high slot. someone else mentioned giving people the ability to use their lights and sidearms while in the seats, but I truely thing that would be a bit overpowered.
I say overpowered because you get a bunch of guys with Proto guns of almost any kind, and drive into the middle of the other team and clear it out just by driving through.
That is my idea for the SLAV, only because it doesn't have a defining role, and for the isk it costs, it should have a role that makes it worth calling in. |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:56:00 -
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SLAV needs a built-in Nitrous Module and a higher base speed.
That is all. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:56:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Posted stats.
LLAV is better than SLAV. It depends on what you are using it for. However, with the loss of two high slots and a low slot, and drastic decrease to total eHP, SLAV is definitely far less survivable in a combat situation.
Not really.
The LLAV is as fast, has more PG/CPU and has the ability to be faster. It is far more survivable and is just much better overall. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:01:00 -
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the SLAV is a militia LAV with a better engine to get to the same top speed faster. I dunno about you but I never had a hard time reaching top speed in any of the other LAVs stat wise is the same as the militia version. you might as well still go for the LLAV over SLAV because of well everything. turrets on LAV don't help much really because the gunner is to open that in any combat would make a easy kill and with the turret skill nerf there not a small turret to out dps the TAR. it needs cloaking or a scanner of some kind built in and at least the same slots are the standard version because they have less with less base hp. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:13:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Posted stats.
LLAV is better than SLAV. It depends on what you are using it for. However, with the loss of two high slots and a low slot, and drastic decrease to total eHP, SLAV is definitely far less survivable in a combat situation. Not really. The LLAV is as fast, has more PG/CPU and has the ability to be faster. It is far more survivable and is just much better overall.
It also cost a lot more to fit it to the standard you're talking about. Look I am not entirely disagreeing with you here, the LLAV could definitely use some love. I like that idea of getting rid of the turret in favor of two back seats. But definitely in needs some thing to make it stand out as a stand alone roll. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
249
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:23:00 -
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I just tested the Caldari LLAV with two Jovians, and it is definitely not the same amount of acceleration as my SLAV with one Jovian (noticeable difference). The SLAV must have a higher base acceleration, but since there is no statistic for acceleration... We may never have hard evidence. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:29:00 -
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Guess what. If you want more acceleration, put a torque mod in the 2nd low slot the SLAV doesn't have. TADA!
SCOUT LAV = USELESS |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:30:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:I just tested the Caldari LLAV with two Jovians, and it is definitely not the same amount of acceleration as my SLAV with one Jovian (noticeable difference). The SLAV must have a higher base acceleration, but since there is no statistic for acceleration... We may never have hard evidence.
Yeah, but how much acceleration? .5 s difference to max speed is meaningless. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:38:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:I just tested the Caldari LLAV with two Jovians, and it is definitely not the same amount of acceleration as my SLAV with one Jovian (noticeable difference). The SLAV must have a higher base acceleration, but since there is no statistic for acceleration... We may never have hard evidence. Yeah, but how much acceleration? .5 s difference to max speed is meaningless.
As I said there is no statistic... So how the hell would I know? Give it a try. It is very noticeable, especially when you are going over rough terain. Also I only have SLAV skilled to level 1 which means that there is still an entire eight percent buff to acceleration left to go. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:36:00 -
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Bump, in the hope that someone from CCP will see this thread and take note.
Oh, and give us the friken statistic for acceleration CCP. |
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