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P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:54:00 -
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(I Speak To The Dust Gods) No 'Triage' trophy for first repair? No 'Hacker' trophy for your first hack? No 'Nano' - ok well y'all get the point... So what no trophies? What's the deal? |
Rachoi
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:55:00 -
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nope, no trophies, no point in trophies, none in EVE, so why add them in DUST? also.. why force the devs to work on something that is rather... pointless |
Rainn Ender
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:22:00 -
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ccp!
'trophy pack' on ps store
make it and i will buy it |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
52
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:35:00 -
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P-A-R-A-D-O-X wrote:(I Speak To The Dust Gods) No 'Triage' trophy for first repair? No 'Hacker' trophy for your first hack? No 'Nano' - ok well y'all get the point... So what no trophies? What's the deal?
I, Skipper Jones, award P-A-R-A-D-O-X with a trophy for the most dashes in a single name. *trophy sounds* |
Ecshon Autorez
Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:39:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:I, Skipper Jones, award P-A-R-A-D-O-X with a trophy for the most dashes in a single name. *trophy sounds* You must play Xbox, I've never heard a sound when I get a trophy and I'm level 13. Although it could just be my volume has always been too high in-game to hear it.. >_> lemme go check....
YEP! you do actually get it. Its just been so long since I've bothered to get any cus all my new games that have them aren't really good so the trophies mean nothing to me. DERP! |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
52
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:41:00 -
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Ecshon Autorez wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:I, Skipper Jones, award P-A-R-A-D-O-X with a trophy for the most dashes in a single name. *trophy sounds* You must play Xbox, I've never heard a sound when I get a trophy and I'm level 13.
I don't, But i'm pretty sure that there is a little *bing noise* and then your ps3 lags as it shows you what trophy you got. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
85
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:44:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Ecshon Autorez wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:I, Skipper Jones, award P-A-R-A-D-O-X with a trophy for the most dashes in a single name. *trophy sounds* You must play Xbox, I've never heard a sound when I get a trophy and I'm level 13. I don't, But i'm pretty sure that there is a little *bing noise* and then your ps3 lags as it shows you what trophy you got. Maybe I'm wrong.
You are correct. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
482
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:59:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:nope, no trophies, no point in trophies, none in EVE, so why add them in DUST? also.. why force the devs to work on something that is rather... pointless Agreed!
I suppose, I could send the OP a box of gold stars though. If it'd make him/her feel better. |
Ecshon Autorez
Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:30:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:nope, no trophies, no point in trophies, none in EVE, so why add them in DUST? also.. why force the devs to work on something that is rather... pointless
NOT SO! Trophies in some games where they have the ridiculus ones (Kill an enemy with every weapon) can lead to lots of fun! If I ALWAYS used the SMGs in all games but decided to get that trophy I might find out that for that game, I prefer Sniper Rifles!
But for Dust I think the trophies would be like:
- Spend X amount of ISK total
- Get your first kill
- Apply to a corporation for the first time
- Earn X amount of ISK total
- Call a vehicle for the first time
- Get your first kill with an OB
- Respawn for the first time
- Kill one of every dropsuit specialization (Sentinel, Scout, Logistics, Assault)
- Level your first skill to level 5
- Reach the end of your first skill tree (maxed out a skill that doesn't have any skills that come after it)
- Earn X amount of total War Points
- Hack an objective for the first time
- Customize a fitting for the first time
- Make an Invalid fitting for the first time
- Make a fitting with a PRO dropsuit/vehicle
- Make a fitting with a PRO weapon/turret
The list goes on and on, they're pretty easy to come up with for Dust, You just have to make sure that they can be gotten by everyone from a Redline Sniper, to a Frontline Support Logibro, to a Dropship Pilot. |
Mad Proffeser
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:41:00 -
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All new PS3 games are supposed to have trophies, except mini's. But who really cares, this game has bigger things to worry about. Sony has already given CCP a lot of leeway on things so I wasn't really surprised when it launched with no trophies. Maybe down the road at some point but with a game that's never really done I doubt it. |
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Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
77
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:03:00 -
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P-A-R-A-D-O-X wrote:(I Speak To The Dust Gods) No 'Triage' trophy for first repair? No 'Hacker' trophy for your first hack? No 'Nano' - ok well y'all get the point... So what no trophies? What's the deal?
Nothing wrong with those who like achievements. Its on the PS3. Its kind of a pat on the back. Why hate? |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
40
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:32:00 -
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Who gives a fuk about stupid trophies with all the **** poor aiming, frame rate,hit detection, stickey maps, lack of maps, poor balance, etc, etc, etc... |
J4yne C0bb
DUST University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:52:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:Who gives a fuk about stupid trophies with all the **** poor aiming, frame rate,hit detection, stickey maps, lack of maps, poor balance, etc, etc, etc...
I'm with you... I have nothing against trophies, but CCP has more important things to worry about right now. I would like to see them eventually, but not while there are still major issues with the game.
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Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
77
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:15:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:XiBravo wrote:Who gives a fuk about stupid trophies with all the **** poor aiming, frame rate,hit detection, stickey maps, lack of maps, poor balance, etc, etc, etc... I'm with you... I have nothing against trophies, but CCP has more important things to worry about right now. I would like to see them eventually, but not while there are still major issues with the game.
Trophies are not a problem to stick in. Super easy to implement and dealt with separately from the other technical issues. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
363
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:32:00 -
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8 P ` No trophies please. They would do nothing to enhance the game. |
Roldrage
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:03:00 -
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A bronze hidden trophy for completely maxing your character. Title is "Thanks for playing Dust 514!". |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
454
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:23:00 -
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Whoever wants trophies are ret@rds. |
JX1
Goonfeet
35
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:27:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Whoever wants trophies are ret@rds.
I wouldn't say that. It's actually an obsessive-compulsive disorder that goes far beyond something like a normal person collecting this and that. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
114
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:28:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Whoever wants trophies are ret@rds.
Totally agree, they are pointless |
RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries
84
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:04:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:nope, no trophies, no point in trophies, none in EVE, so why add them in DUST? also.. why force the devs to work on something that is rather... pointless
No controllers in EVE either so we should just ditch those too I suppose?
This is Dust514, an FPS on a console. This is not EVE Online. There are certain things that will not translate well between the two, that does not mean that anything that cannot be mutual to both shouldn't be on either.
tl;dr - Your reasoning is bad and you should feel bad. |
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Dao Ferret
BetaMax. CRONOS.
27
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:29:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:A bronze hidden trophy for completely maxing your character. Title is "Thanks for playing Dust 514!".
I love it, that would be perfect ... expected unlock time is, what? 5-7 years?
(and people complain trophies unlock too easy, or a game doesn't have enough content after 40 hours of gameplay) |
Jaden HGhar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
7
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:40:00 -
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Trophies are for those that need validation, that they are doing something worthwhile. Every time I shoot someone in the face I get validation |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
906
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:37:00 -
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P-A-R-A-D-O-X wrote:(I Speak To The Dust Gods) No 'Triage' trophy for first repair? No 'Hacker' trophy for your first hack? No 'Nano' - ok well y'all get the point... So what no trophies? What's the deal?
Free game = zero trophies. Why is that so hard for people to understand?? |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
9
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:02:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:P-A-R-A-D-O-X wrote:(I Speak To The Dust Gods) No 'Triage' trophy for first repair? No 'Hacker' trophy for your first hack? No 'Nano' - ok well y'all get the point... So what no trophies? What's the deal? Free game = zero trophies. Why is that so hard for people to understand??
Why is 'I Speak To The Dust Gods' so hard for people to understand?
They can input trophies if they choose - why don't they?
*Awaits The Dust Gods' Response* |
Wojciak
Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:20:00 -
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The only way i would have Trophies would be of all or most would be jokes, ie kill someone with a repair tool. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1349
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:23:00 -
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No trophy for killing an HMGer by using nova knives? |
Ecshon Autorez
Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:25:00 -
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Wojciak wrote:The only way i would have Trophies would be of all or most would be jokes, ie kill someone with a repair tool.
I was thinking more along the lines of: In most games trophies show skill level, or amount of insanity (Collectibles trophies with >100 collectibles)
In Dust they could show more along the lines of how long you've been playing Dust, by making them all things that anyone can do. (see one of my earlier posts in here) |
Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
153
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:38:00 -
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I was honestly surprised by the lack of trophies after the official launch as well, since this is very much NOT a mini, and so technically is required to have trophies (I'd have to double-check, but DC Universe Online is free-to-play as well with microtransactions, and I'm pretty sure it has trophies; think that's Sony-published though, so that could explain it having them in spite of a possible non-requirement).
I also agree with the couple posts about higher priorities: there are more important things to worry about for the time being rather than implementing some tracking for non-stat-based triggers (a lot of stats are tracked server-side for demographic and balance purposes, but there's no way to know if anything is tracked client-side rather than just displayed based on the server response for the calls they've so far implemented.)
I also think that we SHOULD have trophies. Yes, they're not really a significant thing, but they are something fun to strive for and show off. On the PS3, even more so than the 360, they do provide a sense of progression of a totally non-important type, since you can see how many platinum, gold, silver, and bronze trophies someone has unlocked, and their "star level" based on totals.
The critical things with trophies in any online game, though, are what you give them for. It's absolutely essential that they be EXCLUSIVELY for things that you would do anyway, or things that help the team win the match. Killstreak trophies (x kills without dying), accuracy trophies (X% accuracy for a match), x kills with y weapon (as opposed to just "x kills total" which is fine), all encourage behaviours that are detrimental to the team's victory. They encourage people to engage in non-optimal strategies to unlock trophies. You see people going an entire match using nothing but knives to try to unlock the knife trophy, or people that find one afk guy, fire one shot, then AFK the rest of the match for the 100% accuracy trophy. These are the dangers, and one must be cautious to avoid them. Lifetime totals that are not specific to what YOU equip and use are essential (by all means, have the "kill one of every dropsuit" trophy, but DO NOT have a "get x kills WITH y dropsuit in one match"). |
BioClone Ax-45
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
31
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:15:00 -
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Looks like a lot of people dont knows the number of people out there that re just a "trophie hunters" Why did you think so many people played RE5? for the quality of the game? NO! just because on 2 days you get a platinum... I have seen people "who supposes to call himselfs "hardcore gamers" who have played a great amazing amount of tittles that im sure they havent played to enjoy it, just for the trophies (for example, people with 30+ platinums, one of them about "barbie the video game"
So what im trying to say its... yeah, it isnt a priority, but trophies also makes people get interest of the game (even if they just come for the trophies) maibe some of them will come just for the trophies and they will find a great game, so just for the "advertising" it worth to do them. (or do 40 2D icons and a stupid description its hard or expensive? even if CCP makes a contest here on the forums they will get all the job done for free, im sure) |
Heavenly Daughter
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
90
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:42:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:nope, no trophies, no point in trophies, none in EVE, so why add them in DUST? also.. why force the devs to work on something that is rather... pointless
Also, who in their right mind would spend precious SP on a corp just for a trophy. Badly thought OP.
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drake sadani
Tacti-corp
48
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:58:00 -
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mass driver trophy . after playing one match with it. you get this trophy > barely able to kill . get 1/2 a kill with mass driver
after 5 LAV kills you get this > conformity moving with the herd
after 10 nova knife kills you get this > well done kebab
after 10 laser kills you get this > mass driver revisit barely dead
calling in two tanks in one match gets you this > fedex handle with care
i got more if you want them ^)^ |
drake sadani
Tacti-corp
50
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:34:00 -
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oh and mag had ribbons and medals in game that was cool as well and it can be integrated |
Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
159
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:40:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:oh and mag had ribbons and medals in game that was cool as well and it can be integrated There's a medal system for corps in eve already that will likely be viewable in dust at some point (i'll have to test, but they can probably be assigned already; the directors of the corp control creation and issuing of medals). |
LXicon
Ill Omens EoN.
99
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:57:00 -
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from the weekly feedback updates : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=865744#post865744
Quote:We do have trophies planned for future updates.
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