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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:33:00 -
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That is exacly the point where HTFU is perfectly justified.
Sniper=>hardcounter=>scout
You don't get to demand special rules just because you can't deal with basic RPS mechanics. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:38:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:honestly, i think if they are sitting in the back, sniping with a free suit in redline, they should REALLY be forced to move atleast 10m from time to time... as for the damage... you're truly joking i hope, since you're getting hit with a slug , going at speeds well over mach 10.... think about it for a moment. it is going to hurt, no amount of % making will stop that.
the BS itself is the red line wimps, i've met good scout snipers that get to a good perch where they know is risky, and give out intel even as he's taking shots at people.... the sniper's job is to get into tough spots and take a few shots, pass on intel, then move on. sadly most dont realize that, so they sit... in one place... all the time... I'd like to throw in that a sniper does not have to be necessary a scout which is shown by the fact that active scanners do not work for distances at wich many snipers operate. Redline sniping is a whole other issue where i haven't made my mind up yet but passive sniping is a valid tactic, if successfull.
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:47:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Rachoi wrote:honestly, i think if they are sitting in the back, sniping with a free suit in redline, they should REALLY be forced to move atleast 10m from time to time... as for the damage... you're truly joking i hope, since you're getting hit with a slug , going at speeds well over mach 10.... think about it for a moment. it is going to hurt, no amount of % making will stop that.
the BS itself is the red line wimps, i've met good scout snipers that get to a good perch where they know is risky, and give out intel even as he's taking shots at people.... the sniper's job is to get into tough spots and take a few shots, pass on intel, then move on. sadly most dont realize that, so they sit... in one place... all the time... Redlining snipers are fine. if you are one of them, kindly dont say that? those that sit back in redlin give NOTHING to the team, no recon, not intel, not even the slightest bit of actual defence for most capture points. Vallud put it the BEST way possible, that's for damned sure
A competent sniper creates a killzone in his whole field of view and forces the enemy to change position, often sacrifing front cover, to not get picked up one by one. I saw countless times groups of enemies suddenly split up or running straight into the open because some sniper that even i weren't aware of compromized their cover. And don't underestimate the relief a good countersniper can provide. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:52:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:If a sniper doesn't attempt to hack an enemy emplacement or kill a blue dot hacking a friendly emplacement every ten minutes they are kicked from that game and banned from skirmish for the day.
END RED LINE SNIPING Have you read some of the replies to your OP? Have you read the responses to Rachoi's added argument? If yes, why are you ignoring both?
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:58:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:
exactly, snipers that actually work in such a way are amazing, as well as snipers up high and scanning the field for enemies trying to sneak around the blindspots of the infantrymen running along the objectives. good sniper overwatch is not common, and i only know of one person in my Corp that is actually an Overwatch sniper.....*gets idea for new type of suit*
There's definitely some bad snipers, but then there's bad examples for every class (imma heavy, 4 duvolles at 60m can't hurt me). I tend to notice only those snipers who actually provide support so me not seeing that big an issue might just be a matter of perspective.
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:05:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:LongLostLust wrote:If a sniper doesn't attempt to hack an enemy emplacement or kill a blue dot hacking a friendly emplacement every ten minutes they are kicked from that game and banned from skirmish for the day.
END RED LINE SNIPING Have you read some of the replies to your OP? Have you read the responses to Rachoi's added argument? If yes, why are you ignoring both? snipers back in redline rarely have good enough ov a veiw for what i and others have said i'm afraid >...> I agree and those are often greated with subbar WP rewards(as they should). I rather took issue with his first paragraph. There's a number of classes and playstyles i wouldn't expect to capture points on a regular basis and his remark seems dismissive of the concept of varying roles working toward a common goal.
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