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Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1451
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:40:00 -
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Free LAVs die fairly easily, it's my tricked out Guista LAV that can tank two EXO nades and turn you into road kill.
But guess what? Only the cassis is BPO, the modules to give it that ability run 92k ISK so there is plenty of risk to go with the reward.
I started playing Death Race 514 because all my points are locked up in now completely useless dropships, but I discovered that it's far more challenging and rewarding than spamming blaster fire. It's got the majesty of a bullfight with the matador attempting to dodge and leap over the bull as he tosses grenades to kill it. Meanwhile the driver has to anticipate his targets actions and plan counters. It's a deadly game of cat and mouse that requires skill on both sides.
Yes you can get blind sided by the bull, but the same is true about gunfire. In fact it's more difficult to surprise a target while running a LAV because they can hear you coming and prepare.
Give it a try yourself and I'm sure you will agree. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
318
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:50:00 -
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If they made the driver easily accessible to snipers we could certainly help with the issue. |
Ynned Ivanova
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:56:00 -
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Been sniped from my blood raider plenty of times, aim better.
Thanks for the whine OP, fuels my LAV. Hiding wont help youd be suprised where I can get my LAV to fit.
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kenderr cillo
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
CRONOS.
14
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:58:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Hana-Maru wrote:BPO LAVs need to go. its getting ******* ridiculous.
if we're going to have free LAVs zig zagging around the map on a vehicular homicide high then maybe consider nerfing their armor back to chromosome level or unnerfing AV grenades Spec in to remote explosives.
Proximity mines dont do nothing, they run over them without problems. |
Clavain Vegas
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:58:00 -
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I'm guilty of this but in my defense its not a "free" LAV and I've put a fair amount of sp in the shields , recharge , damage reduction modules etc. Best advice don't go toe to toe with an LAV whose shields you haven't tested first. Someone suggested earlier in a post reply that an amount of damage be done to the LAV when it hits someone ... even as an LAV driver whom this wouldn't benefit i gotta say i like the idea it has merit ... a petition perhaps  |
Vethosis
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:59:00 -
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It's ok if you run someone over but not if someone runs you over? You can hear LAV's from far away, basically the only tip to give you, and map. Any other times you die, just live with it, you aren't always going to survive a LAV. Why aren't some of you not even talking about headshots from snipers and forge gunners? They kill you in one shot, just like the LAV when they run you over.
Adapt or die.
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Shady IceCream Truck
Silent Stalkerz
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:02:00 -
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Hana-Maru wrote:BPO LAVs need to go. its getting ******* ridiculous.
if we're going to have free LAVs zig zagging around the map on a vehicular homicide high then maybe consider nerfing their armor back to chromosome level or unnerfing AV grenades
Hmm lets count the ways to kill a LAV..
1. spec into AV nades
2. spec into Remotes
3. spec into MD
4. spec into Forge Gun
5 . spec into Swarms
6. just grab a jeep and have a head on collision
7. join his squad and bump him with your tank
8. stand by a cliff and play "matador"
9. Spec into tanks
10. spec into dropships
11 spec into sniper
12. spec into turrets
13. GET IN a turret
14. I dunno shoot the driver out?
13. SPEC INTO ANYTHING THAT DOESNT HAVE AR in the name.. douchbag
*i know im missing probably 10 more ways to kill a LAV..
IceCream delivered fast and hard to your front door .. |
Goat of Dover
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:03:00 -
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This is funny yes there is a lot of open road. Yes free LAVs can get tough. The truth still stands unless u get blind sided you still really shouldn't die to an LAV roadkill in the wide open with glue on your shoe.
You can hear them a mile away get there direction and use any form of terrian against them. I wish I had a count of the LAVs I have gone under.
Also to those who say I should have to get AV to deal with them. Yes it is a counter to them you must spec into counters unless its a militia in which militias fine. If you see adv in the tacnet then you will need adv gear or a lot if standard hits. Would you need to spec to counter something else yes so why not BPO LAVs.
Sorry if you don't like it but its just the way it is now. |
Cody Allentek
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:07:00 -
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How am I suppose to "improve" my "amazing" driving skillz if LAVs are removed!?
Oh we'll, there is always the speeder bikes coming SOONGäó. |
Shady IceCream Truck
Silent Stalkerz
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
20
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:08:00 -
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Goat of Dover wrote:This is funny yes there is a lot of open road. Yes free LAVs can get tough. The truth still stands unless u get blind sided you still really shouldn't die to an LAV roadkill in the wide open with glue on your shoe.
You can hear them a mile away get there direction and use any form of terrian against them. I wish I had a count of the LAVs I have gone under.
Also to those who say I should have to get AV to deal with them. Yes it is a counter to them you must spec into counters unless its a militia in which militias fine. If you see adv in the tacnet then you will need adv gear or a lot if standard hits. Would you need to spec to counter something else yes so why not BPO LAVs.
Sorry if you don't like it but its just the way it is now.
thas just the way it is baaaby' |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
318
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:09:00 -
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Ynned Ivanova wrote:Been sniped from my blood raider plenty of times, aim better.
Thanks for the whine OP, fuels my LAV. Hiding wont help youd be suprised where I can get my LAV to fit.
What are you doing standing still long enough to be sniped (and what weapon got you)?
Edit: Misread the first time through. |
Abbie NORML
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:12:00 -
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Dopey rode his bike one night, wore dark clothes without a light!
Didn't see that car speeding down the street, knocked poor Dopey 50 feet! |
Crow Splat
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:16:00 -
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It's not that people are actually doing this that bugs me. It's that a few people start doing it then next thing you know, everybody is doing it. And the vast majority of them are failing at it.
Just today I watched an LAV.with all seats filled from my team chase a red scout around for nearly 3 minutes. The worst part wastthat they didn't even kill him. It was some other guy who had just spawned nearby.
Maybe they were just toying with him, maybe they just suck. But it was a close game and the rest of our team would have been better served by them jumping out and shooting. Save that stupidity for when you're up big or about to lose anyway.
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Ynned Ivanova
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:16:00 -
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Usually when Ive just crushed some poor soul against a wall and its usually the 511(i think thats it)
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Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
84
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:18:00 -
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Nerfing LAVs is unrealistic, it would be like making it an over-sized cardboard box that would break instantly. Getting run over is a nature part of combat. But what about everything else like guns, HAVs, Dropships, etc? Those things kill too. Just because LAVs are free and easy to summon doesn't mean it's a bad thing. They're fun and yes, I admit it is fun to run over people when the situation arises. But I'm sure if a lot of whining continues on the LAVs and CCP decides to charge us for the LAVs, then it would become even worse with long threads of complaints. Grow a pair, shut your mouth, and be happy that the LAVs are free. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
318
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:30:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Nerfing LAVs is unrealistic, it would be like making it an over-sized cardboard box that would break instantly. Getting run over is a nature part of combat. But what about everything else like guns, HAVs, Dropships, etc? Those things kill too. Just because LAVs are free and easy to summon doesn't mean it's a bad thing. They're fun and yes, I admit it is fun to run over people when the situation arises. But I'm sure if a lot of whining continues on the LAVs and CCP decides to charge us for the LAVs, then it would become even worse with long threads of complaints. Grow a pair, shut your mouth, and be happy that the LAVs are free.
Are you kidding... they get to whine either way. There's no way out...  |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
729
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:31:00 -
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Isn't in funny how many of us dedicated tankers gave up on HAVs after skilling up and trying them in Uprising, and for some weird reason CCP added LAVs as a pre-req for the HAV skill.
Probably no connection at all there.
*thump*
Prob...
*thump*
Ah, what was I saying again?... |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:33:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:Hey guys, just blow ISK and SP on grenades to kill free vehicles. perblem serlved 
This.
And i'm dedicated AV. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
730
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:40:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:This.
And i'm dedicated AV.
I've faced both dedicated AV nade and forge guys in my fully spec'ed ishukone LAV, and seriously it's easier to survive by far than if I was facing it with my tank. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
96
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:45:00 -
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All the LAVs give lots of targets for AV guys stuff to shoot at. Keeps me entertained for the most part. Hell, gives me a damn job.
I play bull fighter with them. Side to side strafing to entice the LAV. To tell him that, yes, My AV grenade and I are here to dance with the devil in the pale moon light.
Rasatsu wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:This.
And i'm dedicated AV. I've faced both dedicated AV nade and forge guys in my fully spec'ed ishukone LAV, and seriously it's easier to survive by far than if I was facing it with my tank.
Honestly since the buff the LAVs are more dangerous than HAVs in my opinion. They speed and maneuverability make them very difficult to pin down if that LAV driver has half a brain. |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
478
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:52:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:I'm tired of this BS too. Everytime I get runover I think "oh great, another 3rd grader that can't shoot".
BTW Buster, how do RE's help. I move, the LAV moves, remote explosives do not. What's the strategy you use with these?
LAV has to hit you to run you over yeah? Drop RE, when LAV comes, detonate RE. Easy yeah? As I understand it, you can drop these on the run.
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Ralph-Waldo Pickle-Chips
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
8
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:55:00 -
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For the love of god, did your parents tell you to look both ways before you cross a road? It's simple, look and run. There. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4514
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:04:00 -
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I have been taking my free LAvs and ramming other LAVs with it. I need to work on bailing out timing better though. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
730
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:14:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I have been taking my free LAvs and ramming other LAVs with it. I need to work on bailing out timing better though.
Doesn't work as expected against properly fit LAVs. ;)
Note to self; need to upload video of spawning far away from everyone else at start of match in STD gear and yet to land LAV, facing two reds with a militia LAV and doing some benny hill style fighting. |
Rusty Shaklefurd
Couch Legion
14
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:17:00 -
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Take thumb, press joystick.
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Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
79
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:18:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:I'll spam blood raider lavs for a everyone.
You sir are pure evil.  |
UK-Shots
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
88
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:19:00 -
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LOL I LOVE THE BERRIES THAT JUST STAND STILL SHOOTING AT YOU, OOPS SQUISH |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
79
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:30:00 -
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CAELAN Andoril wrote:Militia Fatsuit with a Militia Forge Gun. Problem solved.
If you think an off the shelf FG with no SP is going to save you... a surprise is inbound. Whether it is Swarm or Forge if you're not at least putting in close to a million SP then give it up and follow the AV grenade advice. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
118
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:40:00 -
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Red dots are power ups. |
Somin Krais
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
9
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:40:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I have been taking my free LAvs and ramming other LAVs with it. I need to work on bailing out timing better though.
Good to know CPM is backing up my new mode claims. |
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