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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:43:00 -
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This is actually something I don't want and I explain why in the 6th post
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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:35:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:This is actually something I don't want and I explain why in the 6th post Metagame So you want an easy ride, yes? I am ok with some dirty little secrets you want to keep. But it is strange you want to keep others from telling them out loud. If you can't keep your secrets yourself and get catched red handed you deserve to be ratted on
Hehe, well the point in that other post was that you could be sold out by the corp that paid you. That they knew who you were. It was the tipping point.
With EVE pilots and large ships and interstellar travel there will be a large paper trail behind your every action. As a lone mercenary who roams from battle to battle and body to body there is liable to be very large holes in your history. From a Lore perspective it makes more sense for a Dust merc to not have a traceable history.
However, it looks my like betrayal thread is a bust, so I will change my posistion and support this thread. Corp history will indeed help track players and help corps make better choices. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:33:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:low genius wrote:eve characters can check employment history. you just need an eve account. A lot of us know that, as well as that its coming to Dust being an inevitability. I don't think it unreasonable to raise priority .
Blah, you can pay for stuff in Dust already. They have the elite pack for $99. I see a $17.99 EVE account as being just another P2W strategy you can employ. Cough it up cheapskate. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:49:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:So, now that we've established your lack-of-point as completely inane, let's get back to allowing the Dust-only players that can't figure out how to talk to EVE players to see corp history, thus decimaring yet another of their meritless excuses for eliminating meta entirely and turning this into Call of Halo with added Carebear sauce.
EDIT: And those packs are not pay to win. They're equivalent ot standard-level gear. Suck less.
Whatever dude, it takes me like 4 minutes to make a new Dust account that your API can't check and you can't employment history. Then I can just AFK in the MCC to get enough stats for a Basic Protosuit and then do whatever I feel like.
This is like DRM, you are going to put all sorts of rules and regulations on stuff to try and protect people, but it isn't going to work. It is just going to screw up the people who really are playing while the real pirates just laugh their asses off that there is nothing you can do to stop them.
And if you make it that you can only have 1 account per playstation, so what, I actually have a couple sitting around. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:03:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote: And why is this corp accepting the nobody with no corp history, no SP, etc., and then letting him in on the corp fights on top of it?
HA.. KK bro, its not like its that hard to get a couple mill SP to get into a corp battle. Though luckily enough, I'm to lazy and honestly just don't care enough to take the time to join your corp as one of my alts to AWOX you.
OR am I? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:17:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote: I get that you're a Call of Halo kid, so these are foreign concepts to you, but basic screening techniques and standards will catch what you're describing almost every time, even without corp history and API access (though it's helpful to have).
Man, you are really making me want to reconsider my stance on just not caring enough to try it. I love challenges, especially because I can be a really friendly and helpful guy when I wanna be and you have no idea what I sound like.
Better triple check all your screenings that you get for the next couple months. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:37:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote: Do it! It's legitimate gameplay! Seriously. All we're talking about here is providing the basic tools for basic screening. A skilled spy can still get in and cause damage, if he's good and works at it. What we're talking about are the basic tools that mitigate just how easy it is right now. Most of the whinging is from two camps: the carebears that want complete immunity, and those that simply don't screen or find it too much work. You can't help the failtards that want it removed entirely, but they'll eventually quit anyway and we'll be better off for it (a common truism in EVE is that every time WoW player quits eve to go back to WoW, the average IQ of both games improved; gotta love math humor ). For the others, offering more of the basic tools diminishes their already-meritless arguments, by making it easier to screen for obvious spais, and thus placing the blame more solidly on their own laziness and poor recruiting standards and practices.
I don't think its nessecary, I like the dual corp thing that most people are doing nowadays. Its easy, its efficient and it works. Plus in Dust there isn't much you can do. I mean I EVE you can join a mining corp, wait for a run, kill everyone, take all the loot and kill their rorqual (If you get a little lucky) and make off with Fat loot and alot of minerals and then when they ship up to kill you. Since you can't be ejected from the corp till you have a change state you can just murder them and loot all their T2 stuff from their combat ships. Billions of ISK in damages
And if you are a good spy, well you can do ALOT more damage, like telling where mining opps are going, pointing out blue fleets just using the map while you run plexes. Blocking off trade routes. All sorts of fun stuff. The damage could be in the tens of billions over a few months. And thats if you can't get a good corp theft going.
In Dust, you can shoot guys for a couple times and cause them to "maybe" lose a district they will get back tomorrow anyways. Maybe you can get a corp theft, but only the cheap Dust wallet.
Well anyways, Good luck to you, have a good life. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:53:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote: Honestly, thanks to this last post of yours, you remind me of my sister: arguing for the sole sake of argument itself. You know there's no real or legitimate reason to argue against the OP, you're just arguing to do it, the very definition of trolling.
I guess I should just say kudos to you for displaying the fact that we should disregard everything you've said in this thread, since it's pure trolling.
Ha, sometimes I do, mostly with my wife, though in all reality I don't want them to speed up this because I want them focused on new features and lag and aiming and optimizing the menu.
As I said on the first page, I support this issue, just not the rushing of it. However I don't believe it will make any difference. |
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