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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:39:00 -
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Don't think anyone needs to go off on a tangent, and create a wall o txt to solve the issue.
- Assign roles to members allowing them to take part in PC
- Maybe give Directors / CEO's the power to kick from game, or a vote to kick from game. The vote has to be initiated by these leaders.
Simple.
Also, if you haven't seen this yet:
CCP Praetorian wrote:Hey guys.
Cool thread, full of good ideas!
We agree that it would be better to be able to restrict access to PC battles, and are currently discussing how we would implement that.
What we are discussing is doing this in phases, i.e. start with giving CEO's and directors the ability to kick from matches, set roles on members that you want participating in PC matches, to forming up into larger teams prior to the PC match taking place. We will add this to the roadmap and share more details in few weeks time for feedback and discussion.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I normally don't wall of text too much unless its a really touchy subject.
This is a very touchy subject.
I wasn't implying your OP lol
I'm talking about people who'll come in here talking about EVE, and how great it is, and how DUST people should HTFU and QQ less, bla bla bla.
People should make their suggestions to the point. Have something more to add, then feel free, but add a TL;DR version below your suggestion...por favor.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I know its New Eden and all but right now you guys don't have to tools and the sorts to handle the entire thing easily before, during and after it happens.
Some tools to alleviate the issues to allow 'quick footed' players to minimize damage while 'wise and cautious' can avoid being victims entirely while 'fast and reckless' will continue to be plagued by it.
Right now it doesn't matter which of the three above you are, you can be a victim.
fair enough. Fully agree that people with an open door policy will be at a higher risk, and that corp CEOs / directors are atm, in charge of who gets in the corp.
Corps looking to help the community are the ones most affected by this though. I won't get into this argument here, cuz that's a thread derailment waiting to happen.
+1 for the thread. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:13:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Again TL;DR, maybe that is the reason everyone is so mad about not having security in place. Try reading sometimes, it is amazing what you can learn if you spend more than one second skimming over text. Eve players are saying htfu because they have lived it, warned us about it and now they are laughing at all the crying threads because they knew it would happen just like the rest of us did.
The mechanic that needs to be added is responsibility for the failure of management to protect assets and control their members. So yes, htfu and put security first and crying second. That's how you solve this problem, not by adding more mechanics to complain about later. The first time the kick function is used to screw over a corp it will be OP and you'll be here crying how it is unfair, new players can't do it, vets are scrubs and how anyone who plays the game differently than you is bad. Just because you play the game one certain way doesn't mean we should.
TL;DR. Read more and bad things probably will not happen as often. READ MORE and TL;DR less.
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you made no effort to put feedback or suggestions in your post.
You said 'crying' x3, 'TL;DR X3', 'htfu' x2, and made 0 contribution. Well done.
i find it funny you mention security, when atm ceo's and directors have no tools in place to help.
I can see how a CEO in charge of of thousands of people, and can't choose who plays in PC as being ok right? 
How about adding something constructive and not spam "HTFU" all over the forum like you've been doing. Kthxbai |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:30:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Again TL;DR, maybe that is the reason everyone is so mad about not having security in place. Try reading sometimes, it is amazing what you can learn if you spend more than one second skimming over text. Eve players are saying htfu because they have lived it, warned us about it and now they are laughing at all the crying threads because they knew it would happen just like the rest of us did.
The mechanic that needs to be added is responsibility for the failure of management to protect assets and control their members. So yes, htfu and put security first and crying second. That's how you solve this problem, not by adding more mechanics to complain about later. The first time the kick function is used to screw over a corp it will be OP and you'll be here crying how it is unfair, new players can't do it, vets are scrubs and how anyone who plays the game differently than you is bad. Just because you play the game one certain way doesn't mean we should.
TL;DR. Read more and bad things probably will not happen as often. READ MORE and TL;DR less.
. you made no effort to put feedback or suggestions in your post. You said 'crying' x3, 'TL;DR' x3, 'htfu' x2, and made 0 contribution. Well done. i find it funny you mention security, when atm ceo's and directors have no tools in place to help. I can see how a CEO in charge of of thousands of people, and can't choose who plays in PC as being ok right? How about adding something constructive and not spam "HTFU" all over the forum like you've been doing. Kthxbai Holding corp like the rest of the responsible CEOs. Simple enough? Tools are there you failed to use the because of ignorance of the system or laziness.
Tools? Please tell me what tools CEO's have in place to select their squads? Making a secondary corp? lol... that's not "tools" if that's what you were coming with.
I'm still waiting for a contribution on your part. So far I know you're against the fix, but I still can't see a valid point being given...all I see from you is "HTFU" and "cry some more"... even when you don't use those words.
How about explaining your reason without coming across as an EVE Elitist arrogant ****...maybe? 
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.21 08:05:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Nova Knife wrote:People are getting too caught up on kicking as a 'solution'.
The Long term, 'Best' Fix is proper roles to manage who can join PC, and Toggles for if a corp wants to allow 'ringers' in their matches or not. (Ringing honestly needs it's own contract marketplace IMO, but that is another issue/feature for later)
The only reason CCP is discussing kicking is because it's something they can implement fairly quickly. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want ANOTHER half-assed, ill thought and disruptive mechanic put into the game to 'fix' a problem that only exists because of the same reason.
To put it simply; CCP will add kicking over my QQ'ing corpse. I will fight tooth and nail to prevent any player from ever having control of the ability to kick another from any match. Of course, CCP is under no obligation to listen to me, but that's my thoughts on it. Every lobby multiplayer game I have ever played that allowed kicking, it was abused. It was not fun for anyone but the person doing the kicking. I can promise you that if a player is ever able to kick another player from the match... It will be used for far worse things than someone wasting an alt to win a match for their friends.
Just because someone has director roles doesn't mean they aren't a jerk. You could argue "Oh, they should find a new corp if their directors suck" but what if they like their corpmates, and the director is so far up the CEO's ass that he will never be punished?
Instead of getting caught up on 'fixing' the real problem by creating a different (much worse) problem, what people should be doing in this thread is exploring other methods to stop effortless sabotage that CCP can implement in the short term, that won't cause a massive headache and ruin people's fun?
'Preventing' the awox is a far more important step than 'stopping' the awox IMO. Proper role management IS coming. That fix WILL happen, but not any time in the immediate future. They need to wait for a major expansion for that. Like I said above : right now what the community should focus on is something that will make things better in the meantime without making things worse elsewhere. +1 Lance this is a good idea but you probably TL;DR so what is the point? Before I forget, stop QQing, htfu, this is New Eden, this is how EVE does it and we knew it was going to happen.
lol taking 1 line out of a post and quoting it hahaha
good job. you still have nothing to add but the usual **** you keep spamming  |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.21 08:20:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Agreed. A role that grants access to PC is the only fix that will work.
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don't think anyone needs to go off on a tangent, and create a wall o txt to solve the issue.
- Assign roles to members allowing them to take part in PC
so you agree with my opinion that Sloth shared, yet you say...
The Robot Devil wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:lol taking 1 line out of a post and quoting it hahaha good job. you still have nothing to add but the usual **** you keep spamming Then we are at least equal in that aspect.
we don't share a single aspect other than you agreeing with my point. I don't go around spamming EVE catch phrases cuz I'm too idiotic to say anything of value. I'm done here.
You agree with my post, although you were too busy trying to troll to notice. Good job at contributing btw
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