I wasn't implying your OP lol

I'm talking about people who'll come in here talking about EVE, and how great it is, and how DUST people should HTFU and QQ less, bla bla bla.

People should make their suggestions to the point. Have something more to add, then feel free, but add a TL;DR version below your suggestion...por favor.

Ironwolf, both of your examples suck you know.

In example 2 you argue that once a player have been giving the ability to kick people from the match it's a problem that he can actually make use of that to sabotage the match? Like really? The corp shouldn't have given him the ability then. I don't see how this is a problem.

Example zero: CCP is already planning fixes.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=655927#post655927
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=833365#post833365

Yes and the discussion has been to remove you from council along with Jenza and some other betamax idiot as well as closing the broken game mechanic that was meant to make it easy to squad up for Pub matches....all of this can be found in multiple threads.

This is not about what you want to discuss or want.

You can man up and do your job or better yet resign.

Ummmmm....I thought kicking was supported by the lore? I didnt read it but I was told malfunctioning clones got deactivated in the book Templar One.

Not sure there's much difference between malfunctioning and betraying. SEMANTICS, really.

Oh please an ISK refund like that that is basically obviating the entire sabotage.

With a system like I outlined any smart saboteur can have a very large impact on a battle without it being so inane as sitting in the MCC eating grenades and lol'ing while no one can do anything about it. You really think those two are at all in any way equivalent?

For me this is why you shouldnt be on the CPM

You simply dont understand

The quicker CCP gets the voting problem done with the quicker we can vote in players who know they are talking about i hope

Iron Wolf Saber and Nova Knife.

Just focus on reviewing the ideas people are giving you for this thread. Trust me, it creates less stress and it's more productive.

Password protected planetary conquest matches.

When a director moves to attack a district or gets the notification for a defense of one. They are then given the option to set a password for the match.

This makes it to where the people able to hop in a match have to be trusted, or pay off someone who is trusted to get in the match.

Lore wise, there's a reason you have to hack CRUs.

To make it even easier just have a corp wide password that you need to have. Only the CEO can set it (eve side included) then just pass it amongst your trusted members.

passwords..

*how come you didn't think of that?*

shut up. I like that idea.

so explain how requiring a password would prevent TKers?


im done talking to stooped over here...


you wanna argue a 'kick' function causes other issues with someone's self esteem or all kinds of meta-game hoopla that only keyboard kowboys care about just gtfo.

seriously.. if you're a good spy and get promoted where u can do this, then it just takes your AWOXing to a whole new level, BUT at the end of it you only have yourself to blame....

so sad how some people try to overanalyze such an easily resolved scenario

According to the people who watched my latest video about AWOXing not being as effective as other infiltration technique and assumed I was anti-meta, there doesn't need to be a change. It's great for the game.

Personally, I think it should require some actual effort to ruin a game. Right now, it's as simple as getting into the corp and waiting for the timer. There should be some sort of allotment selection for directors to assign slots to members. If they select an AWOXer, that's on them and the AWOXer did what he's supposed to do.

I don't think it needs to be FIXED, but there should be tweaks made to the PC battle roster.

It only doesn't guarantee a win if you are either A) CPM Jenza or B) Dumb and terrible at this game or C) Both

Why would you infiltrate a battle vs. a corp that was the bottom of the merc marketplace? Seems like a waste of time to infiltrate the worst merc corp in Dust...aim a little higher.

Maybe because this has been suggested months ago and multiple times in this thread.

You say, give us ideas to fix this problem! So we do, and you ignore them because they can't be hotfixed. Well you asked for Roles, Corp tools and Flagging, and said "outside of kicking". How are we to know what is hotfixable and what requires more? I can't give ideas on something you haven't even defined. No wonder some people are exasperated with the CPM.

I think we need to get through to a more permanent solution, so having an SP requirement would be simple to implement, and buy a couple of months while they get the roles sorted out.

Ok.

I'm not an expert on programming and I know that there certain aspects of the Eve client that make the Dev's at CCP regard it as Dave Bowman does HAL after he's got back on board the Discovery......

I understand that the kick idea is one that can be implemented fairly quickly but it seem's a little draconian and could be abused in the long term. As a very short term solution I'd support it.


But I was spit balling with Nova Knife and Cookie about the problem and I don't know it this will work but here goes.

This would involve the use of the Eve client. I know, many, many mercs don'y play Eve. But from personal experience, I'd say that either the directors or CEO of nearly all the major PC engaged corps will be using an Eve client for the heavy lifting of corp management.

For those that don't use the Eve client, you can assign any role to any merc in your corp. But Dust only recognises two of them, CEO and Director at this time.

If you could use the Eve client to assign an existing role that has no relevance at all to Dust, say as an example Hanger Manager, then the Dust Client could detect that as a 'Red Flag' and allow any merc with it access to the Corp matches, effectively giving us a pre-made roster system.

For those without access to an Eve client, the kick function could be added as a short term solution.

In cases like this, it really doesn't matter what option the CPM likes most. Our job isn't to pick what CCP does. It's to make sure they know the benefits and harm each option can cause and leave it to them to do whatever solution is 'right'.