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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.05.21 02:43:00 -
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hey the tanks really dont suck to be honest with you guys. i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp but when in a team with your corp epecially in merc battles they are quite powerful i own a madrugar on my betty white account and man that this is beast. they have flaws yes but definetly not enough to make people stop using them.
blame your team for not running armor/shield repairs you know you can run both on lav's? also running your tank with modules that count instead of beefing all armor or just turrets. but the main key to keeping a tank alive is teamwork if your corp clan or group is doing what needs to be done your tank will become a force to be respected.
skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
160
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:01:00 -
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"i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp" really you would? i'd be fascinated to hear your logic. why should a tank only be useful when with a team? assault suits don't need a logi, sure they're nice to have, they make reps faster but they aren't critical. in chromosome tank skills also effected dropsuits now they don't, so any pure tanker is absolutely useless outside his tank. so he can't operate outside his tank and he can't operate his tank without a squad. do you see any other class like that? assault suits that are useless without logis? scouts that are gimped to uselessness without heavies? no. all classes maintain a certain amount of autonomy why is the tank so different? |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
156
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:38:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:"i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp" really you would? i'd be fascinated to hear your logic. why should a tank only be useful when with a team? assault suits don't need a logi, sure they're nice to have, they make reps faster but they aren't critical. in chromosome tank skills also effected dropsuits now they don't, so any pure tanker is absolutely useless outside his tank. so he can't operate outside his tank and he can't operate his tank without a squad. do you see any other class like that? assault suits that are useless without logis? scouts that are gimped to uselessness without heavies? no. all classes maintain a certain amount of autonomy why is the tank so different? Yup |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
456
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:42:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:hey the tanks really dont suck to be honest with you guys. i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp but when in a team with your corp epecially in merc battles they are quite powerful i own a madrugar on my betty white account and man that this is beast. they have flaws yes but definetly not enough to make people stop using them.
blame your team for not running armor/shield repairs you know you can run both on lav's? also running your tank with modules that count instead of beefing all armor or just turrets. but the main key to keeping a tank alive is teamwork if your corp clan or group is doing what needs to be done your tank will become a force to be respected.
skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums.
Shhh! Be quite! Tankers want CCP and the community to believe they can be OHKed by a BB-gun, you're going to ruin their chance to be buffed into 100% invincibility!
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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
868
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:44:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums.
yeah....you see the problem here is that i DID read the skills. unless youve been under a rock since uprising you would know what im talking about. |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
156
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:47:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums. yeah....you see the problem here is that i DID read the skills. unless youve been under a rock since uprising you would know what im talking about. Lurch knows his tanks. This gets the CharChar stamp of approval. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
868
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:50:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums. yeah....you see the problem here is that i DID read the skills. unless youve been under a rock since uprising you would know what im talking about. Lurch knows his tanks. This gets the CharChar stamp of approval.
tanking since day one. the people who matter know who i am.
edit: btw, char sorry aobut not being able to duel you earlier. as i said i wasnt sober cause my friend's mother just got the all-clear from cancer and i had a few in her honor. Next time ill probs be down unless there is another wierd situation. we could also just squad too n have fun that way. |
Djheffer
O.Q.R.D.
11
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:02:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:hey the tanks really dont suck to be honest with you guys. i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp but when in a team with your corp epecially in merc battles they are quite powerful i own a madrugar on my betty white account and man that this is beast. they have flaws yes but definetly not enough to make people stop using them.
blame your team for not running armor/shield repairs you know you can run both on lav's? also running your tank with modules that count instead of beefing all armor or just turrets. but the main key to keeping a tank alive is teamwork if your corp clan or group is doing what needs to be done your tank will become a force to be respected.
skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums.
What does B! mean? And why is there a chin on the forums? |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
161
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:23:00 -
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My big beef with Tanks right now is that is literally impossible to put Standard Meta 1 Modules on a Standard Meta 1 Tank without PG modules. Seriously, 1805 PG does not go far when trying to fit an Extender, a Booster, and any kind of Turret. Jeez, even putting all missiles take up nearly 1,000 PG.... |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
356
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:24:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:"i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp" really you would? i'd be fascinated to hear your logic. why should a tank only be useful when with a team? assault suits don't need a logi, sure they're nice to have, they make reps faster but they aren't critical. in chromosome tank skills also effected dropsuits now they don't, so any pure tanker is absolutely useless outside his tank. so he can't operate outside his tank and he can't operate his tank without a squad. do you see any other class like that? assault suits that are useless without logis? scouts that are gimped to uselessness without heavies? no. all classes maintain a certain amount of autonomy why is the tank so different? Because tanks were being used as solo stomping machines. All other classes can be killed by anything on field, as well. Tanks do have a certain degree of autonomy, but they shouldn't stomp the opposition on their own. If it takes multiple people to destroy a tank, why should anyone not use tanks? They then become better than anything else for a solo player, and this game isn't about solo. Yes, assault suits can operate without a logi. Without a logi and support, however, they're less effective and die more. Just like tanks, actually. There is no other class which enjoys as much immunity as the tank - unless there's AV on field, then it's nigh-on invincible. Barring AV grenades, all AV weapons make significant sacrifices in dealing with infantry so they can kill you. They're focusing on you, with a specific counter to you, opening up a weakness to themselves. Of course you should be dying to that. Any class dies to their counter - running scrambler rifle and flux grenade wrecks shield tanked dropsuits, running MD, SMG and locus wrecks armour tanked ones. |
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:16:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:hey the tanks really dont suck to be honest with you guys. i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp but when in a team with your corp epecially in merc battles they are quite powerful i own a madrugar on my betty white account and man that this is beast. they have flaws yes but definetly not enough to make people stop using them.
blame your team for not running armor/shield repairs you know you can run both on lav's? also running your tank with modules that count instead of beefing all armor or just turrets. but the main key to keeping a tank alive is teamwork if your corp clan or group is doing what needs to be done your tank will become a force to be respected.
skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums. Shhh! Be quite! Tankers want CCP and the community to believe they can be OHKed by a BB-gun, you're going to ruin their chance to be buffed into 100% invincibility!
im just saying i do well with my tank i move around i never stay stuck in one spot i kill tons of people and i play the objectives with my tanks with my members and have no issues with it. yea the suits dont benifit the tanks but thats what you get when you skill into a tank. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:19:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:"i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp" really you would? i'd be fascinated to hear your logic. why should a tank only be useful when with a team? assault suits don't need a logi, sure they're nice to have, they make reps faster but they aren't critical. in chromosome tank skills also effected dropsuits now they don't, so any pure tanker is absolutely useless outside his tank. so he can't operate outside his tank and he can't operate his tank without a squad. do you see any other class like that? assault suits that are useless without logis? scouts that are gimped to uselessness without heavies? no. all classes maintain a certain amount of autonomy why is the tank so different?
so your telling me that skilling into a suit its supposed to benifit you in a tank? no you made a decision to go tanks and thats all you get like i said in the post its not the tank its the team and player driving it. you cant expect to have an unkillable tank. this isnt closed beta where you guys exploited tanks that could not be destroyed. they are squishy when you have 0 support. this is a team based game therefore if your rolling tanks and playing the objectives helping your team win or fight then you need to have proper support |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:25:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums. yeah....you see the problem here is that i DID read the skills. unless youve been under a rock since uprising you would know what im talking about. Lurch knows his tanks. This gets the CharChar stamp of approval. tanking since day one. the people who matter know who i am. edit: btw, char sorry aobut not being able to duel you earlier. as i said i wasnt sober cause my friend's mother just got the all-clear from cancer and i had a few in her honor. Next time ill probs be down unless there is another wierd situation. we could also just squad too n have fun that way.
lol people that matter? ive been in this beta since day one till uprising. i dealt with your corp spamming unkillable tanks ive been through every phase good and bad this game has brought. my point is you cannot be god in a tank anymore and if you plan on keeping a tank alive that it takes team effort. if this made you sour it is what it is but my opinion is no differant then the next. your playstyle and mine are completly differant as well. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1247
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:31:00 -
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Some of the issues are really simple..
- Tanks v Infantry is balanced by Public Matches, if a Tank wants to roll out into the battle in a Corp Battle, chances are it will die very quickly.
- Skills are changed without us being told, ninja nerf'd or completely redone. Look at Turret Skills (1% damage instead of 3%) and Engineering (5% CPU reduction for Powergrid modules instead of 5% to Powergrid)
- AV Grenades do more damage than a Swarm Launcher at the same meta level
- It is impossible to fit all standard gear on a standard tank without having powergrid modules
- "Prototype" Tanks aren't Prototype, they are specialized and thus have drawbacks which brings them in line with Standard Tanks, currently we are running all Standard.
- Because of the above, Tanks are always at a disadvantage compared to AV as we have no prototype Tanks, but Prototype AV.
- LAVs are stronger than a Tank. (Proof? Watch me drive in and eat Lai Dai AV Nades, better yet, ask someone like Dalt or Askull who spent a while tossing them at me.) |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1747
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:38:00 -
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Jason hit the nail on the head, and all the fiddling with skills in regards to tanks has a knock on effect on the entire vehicle spectrum. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1095
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:49:00 -
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OP thinks hes a tanker because he uses one on his alt
lolno |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
99
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:51:00 -
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PROTO swarms can do 6930 per swarm
PROTO assault Forge can do 5267.5 per shot
PROTO AV packed grenades can do 6500 per grenade
Balanced? Hell no.
Peace, Godin |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:02:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:OP thinks hes a tanker because he uses one on his alt
lolno
lol its funny because all i see when i play you is your kdr go negative.. in tanks and ar game. so shhhhhh thanks your definetly not anywhere near my skill. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1095
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:09:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:OP thinks hes a tanker because he uses one on his alt
lolno lol its funny because all i see when i play you is your kdr go negative.. in tanks and ar game. so shhhhhh thanks your definetly not anywhere near my skill.
lol if you mean this chara its dead, i havnt used this in months
If you mean my proper chara then you must be blind, when i tank i rule the field, when im bored i LAV race, why go hard in a pub match?
Plus ive played with you and your clan before, not impressed, below average i would say and none of you can tank for **** i suppose thats why your clan split up into 2 and you lost your best players |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4490
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:22:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Some of the issues are really simple..
- Tanks v Infantry is balanced by Public Matches, if a Tank wants to roll out into the battle in a Corp Battle, chances are it will die very quickly.
- Skills are changed without us being told, ninja nerf'd or completely redone. Look at Turret Skills (1% damage instead of 3%) and Engineering (5% CPU reduction for Powergrid modules instead of 5% to Powergrid)
- AV Grenades do more damage than a Swarm Launcher at the same meta level
- It is impossible to fit all standard gear on a standard tank without having powergrid modules
- "Prototype" Tanks aren't Prototype, they are specialized and thus have drawbacks which brings them in line with Standard Tanks, currently we are running all Standard.
- Because of the above, Tanks are always at a disadvantage compared to AV as we have no prototype Tanks, but Prototype AV.
- LAVs are stronger than a Tank. (Proof? Watch me drive in and eat Lai Dai AV Nades, better yet, ask someone like Dalt or Askull who spent a while tossing them at me.)
+1 Mostly true. Cept the LAV part damn thing been SP and ISK pinatas for me this week. Cept that last golden one I wounded and it got away only to get blown up by his own crash. netting me nothing and a suicide on the kill feed. |
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:18:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:OP thinks hes a tanker because he uses one on his alt
lolno lol its funny because all i see when i play you is your kdr go negative.. in tanks and ar game. so shhhhhh thanks your definetly not anywhere near my skill. lol if you mean this chara its dead, i havnt used this in months If you mean my proper chara then you must be blind, when i tank i rule the field, when im bored i LAV race, why go hard in a pub match? Plus ive played with you and your clan before, not impressed, below average i would say and none of you can tank for **** i suppose thats why your clan split up into 2 and you lost your best players
would be a good comeback but if you knew facts you would know that i was also a part of the split that left. lol my best players are still cool with me it was your friend nuke who ruined it not i. and everytime and i mean EVERYTIME i see u i stomp you out and yes you use proto in pub matches i dont i use my advance and my little red suit in pub matches and still do better then you. so try a better excuse. mag you teamkilled to **** people off on here you just trash your entire clan left you because you have no skill all you do is redline snipe in a tank and demand for your teamates to protect you in your tank.. how do i know this? well i know and am still kool with the players who cant stand you from your own corp. my dear friend enji is beter then you.
your irrelevent to this build you cannot compete with the best let alone talk about it. your glory days from mag did not follow you here. no offence to anyone else in this thread i can take critisism from them because i know lurch is a great tanker as ive played against him before but your simply trash snake. hate to be the one to break it to you but yes its true your trash
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MONKEY CHEEKS
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:22:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:hey the tanks really dont suck to be honest with you guys. i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp but when in a team with your corp epecially in merc battles they are quite powerful i own a madrugar on my betty white account and man that this is beast. they have flaws yes but definetly not enough to make people stop using them.
blame your team for not running armor/shield repairs you know you can run both on lav's? also running your tank with modules that count instead of beefing all armor or just turrets. but the main key to keeping a tank alive is teamwork if your corp clan or group is doing what needs to be done your tank will become a force to be respected.
skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums.
you run armor tank, try running shield.. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:59:00 -
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MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:hey the tanks really dont suck to be honest with you guys. i would understand them sucking when your not with your corp but when in a team with your corp epecially in merc battles they are quite powerful i own a madrugar on my betty white account and man that this is beast. they have flaws yes but definetly not enough to make people stop using them.
blame your team for not running armor/shield repairs you know you can run both on lav's? also running your tank with modules that count instead of beefing all armor or just turrets. but the main key to keeping a tank alive is teamwork if your corp clan or group is doing what needs to be done your tank will become a force to be respected.
skill up wisely READ your skills before you skill into them and quit your B!tchin on the forums. you run armor tank, try running shield..
i run both actually i figured id go all out tankon one account although i think shield tanks are a bit less powerful then armor but eh its still fun tanking with a good squad of mercs. |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
193
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Posted - 2013.05.23 07:31:00 -
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So Nova Knife, Iron Wolf, and Jenza all support a tank buff; when can we expect CCP to impliment it. |
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