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Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:50:00 -
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It seems some people completely misunderstood the OP. He's saying the controls and gameplay of Dust is not to standard ie the FPS side. Sure all the meta stuff and rpg stuff is great but when you look at Dust as an FPS it's sub par. Dust is being advertised as an mmofps not mmorpg so naturally a fan of fps games will download it and go WTF is this?
There have been tons of threads pleading to CCP to get FPS gameplay down first but they didn't listen. So now we are stuck with a great mmorpg as far as skills and economy goes but below standard FPS. After a year of beta testing aiming is still bad, hit detection can be wonky at times, frame rate is terrible, horrible weapon imbalance etc. The list goes on.
CCP has done nothing but listen to the EVE crowd now it's time to listen to the FPS side and fix the actual draw of the game.
Your shot can change a galaxy if you don't have frame rate issues... |
Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:56:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Aurum and plex is what will keep new players around. In eve it takes about seven days to be competitive the plex system hepls new players right off the bat with isk. In turn eve players gets 30 days of free play.
Dust aurum is what new players need to be semi competive until they have enough isk and sp to get better gear. I agree the core gameplay needs to be better.
No disrespect but dust is for nerds aka smart people. My son is 13 years old and he knows everything about dust, but he's an honor student. He took the time to read everything.
So you have to have some type of intellect to play this shooter, most gamers don't. Im almost 40 this is the type of games i like. I have to think about everything. I also have a job meaning i will spend money on dust.
CCP history with eve along with the adults who spend will keep dust trust it will get better. Dust will have a small community that spends money.
If my 13 year old son can play dust with no problem then so can i.
Jah bless.
I really wish people would stop trying to make Dust seem like it's sooooo complex when it's not. Anybody can figure it out by reading that's not intellect that's common sense to say let me read up on this before I play...
I have a friend who is not tech savy or good with video games. Hell he can be dumb as a brick actually but he can play the **** out of Dust. |
Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:58:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Elrick Mercer wrote:It seems some people completely misunderstood the OP. He's saying the controls and gameplay of Dust is not to standard ie the FPS side. Sure all the meta stuff and rpg stuff is great but when you look at Dust as an FPS it's sub par. Dust is being advertised as an mmofps not mmorpg so naturally a fan of fps games will download it and go WTF is this?
There have been tons of threads pleading to CCP to get FPS gameplay down first but they didn't listen. So now we are stuck with a great mmorpg as far as skills and economy goes but below standard FPS. After a year of beta testing aiming is still bad, hit detection can be wonky at times, frame rate is terrible, horrible weapon imbalance etc. The list goes on.
CCP has done nothing but listen to the EVE crowd now it's time to listen to the FPS side and fix the actual draw of the game.
Your shot can change a galaxy if you don't have frame rate issues... Sorry, but i can't see the MMO in Dust 514....Is not different than any other "Normal" FPS multiplayer game 
Yeah I agree the MMO part is lacking as well. Instanced battles and a player cap of 16 v 16 is not very MMO. Planetside 2 is the only true MMOFPS now that I think about it. |
Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.21 08:59:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Elrick Mercer wrote:It seems some people completely misunderstood the OP. He's saying the controls and gameplay of Dust is not to standard ie the FPS side. Sure all the meta stuff and rpg stuff is great but when you look at Dust as an FPS it's sub par. Dust is being advertised as an mmofps not mmorpg so naturally a fan of fps games will download it and go WTF is this?
There have been tons of threads pleading to CCP to get FPS gameplay down first but they didn't listen. So now we are stuck with a great mmorpg as far as skills and economy goes but below standard FPS. After a year of beta testing aiming is still bad, hit detection can be wonky at times, frame rate is terrible, horrible weapon imbalance etc. The list goes on.
CCP has done nothing but listen to the EVE crowd now it's time to listen to the FPS side and fix the actual draw of the game.
Your shot can change a galaxy if you don't have frame rate issues... Dude, I play EVE and know that the FPS meat of the game is sub par at best, so you can stop blaming the EVE crowd. They screwed the pooch on uprising, admitted it and are trying to fix something that wasn't broken to begin with. If you're expecting this to be a twitch shooter with a placebo spreadsheet, you're playing the wrong game.
Stop assuming I want a twitch shooter. Also if not all it was definitely the majority of EVE players that were testing Dust that made Dust what it is now... |
Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.21 09:04:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:hooc order wrote:
Sooo...there is nothing literal that makes this game a thinking mans game? Only that a lobby FPS with an RPG leveling system slapped onto it confused you? Also i am pretty sure a CoD player can understand the concept of shooting people and spending points you earn into items and levels....i am also pretty sure most of them on the PS3 have tried the game and thought "this is it? Crap lobby FPS (just like CoD by the way) with a RPG leveling system slapped on it to....where are the scifi epic battles? where is the market system? Where is the persistent universe they keep talking about, why can't my gun hit that guy across the way? Why are all these idiots running around in the open? Why are my head shots doing nothing to them?....hell i will just go back to CoD at least the FPS is good in that game."
It's a thinking man's game because you're not supposed to run around like a lemming on crack with a GEK-38. You're supposed to work with your squad use that orders radial for more than placing a defend order on someone to farm WP. It's times like this where I wish FF was turned on so we can really see some teamwork instead of blob warfare with TARs.
Yeah because Dust is the only FPS to ever hit the market that requires teamwork within a squad ...
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