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Eltra Ardell Goonfeet 88	Posted - 2013.05.20 12:58:00 - [1] - Quote http://themittani.com/news/dust-514-eve-culture-shock-and-grief-university Tried my hand at a news article this time around, there's been a lot going on.
Finn Kempers BetaMax. CRONOS. 224	Posted - 2013.05.20 13:03:00 - [2] - Quote It's so much fun wrecking havoc on corps who don't plan or know how to group up properly.
stormyuk DUST University Ivy League 35	Posted - 2013.05.20 13:22:00 - [3] - Quote As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of ****. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet.
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 441	Posted - 2013.05.20 13:46:00 - [4] - Quote All it takes now for dust to rocket is Sha Kharn and Jenza in a bonnie and clyde romance pull out of CRONOS with 14 billion isk worth of tears and a magazine to write an article on it. oops, wrong char posting
Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United The East India Co. 163	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:05:00 - [5] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: All it takes now for dust to rocket is Sha Kharn and Jenza in a bonnie and clyde romance pull out of CRONOS with 14 billion isk worth of tears and a magazine to write an article on it. oops, wrong char posting Hehehehehe.......that would be something to see. They'd need to make a show out of it.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 31	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:09:00 - [6] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: All it takes now for dust to rocket is Sha Kharn and Jenza in a bonnie and clyde romance pull out of CRONOS with 14 billion isk worth of tears and a magazine to write an article on it. oops, wrong char posting In the end they would be killed but who the hell cares anyways. Cloning#
Abu Stij Goonfeet 45	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:19:00 - [7] - Quote stormyuk wrote: As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of ****. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet. It actually has ignited interest. One of the big sells for EVE is being able to be that super secret espionage master you always pretended to be. The fact you can do it in an FPS now, is very intriguing and has made EVE Online players far more interested in this "expansion" than they previously were. There was a clear lack of a meta-game until recently, and as the forums have indicated this has breathed new life into an otherwise plateaued community.
CraftySlyFox Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 33	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:21:00 - [8] - Quote There not bothered about the isk they've got each other <3 (love is in the air) trololololol
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1428	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:34:00 - [9] - Quote Abu Stij wrote: stormyuk wrote: As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of ****. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet. It actually has ignited interest. One of the big sells for EVE is being able to be that super secret espionage master you always pretended to be. The fact you can do it in an FPS now, is very intriguing and has made EVE Online players far more interested in this "expansion" than they previously were. There was a clear lack of a meta-game until recently, and as the forums have indicated this has breathed new life into an otherwise plateaued community. Player gets hired as a raw recruit, spending zero time gaining the trust of the mercenary corporation. CCP hands the keys to the MCC to every probationary member of every corporation. Said recruit takes the MCC for a joyride during a PC battle. The joyrider trumpets his super secret spy skills as if it were anything other than a broken game mechanic. Players desperate for some form of metta game trumpet this broken mechanic as a breakthrough in gaming. Eventually CCP fixes the broken mechanic and requires real effort to infiltrate a corporation.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1082	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:37:00 - [10] - Quote Skihids wrote: Abu Stij wrote: stormyuk wrote: As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of **. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet. It actually has ignited interest. One of the big sells for EVE is being able to be that super secret espionage master you always pretended to be. The fact you can do it in an FPS now, is very intriguing and has made EVE Online players far more interested in this "expansion" than they previously were. There was a clear lack of a meta-game until recently, and as the forums have indicated this has breathed new life into an otherwise plateaued community. Player gets hired as a raw recruit, spending zero time gaining the trust of the mercenary corporation. CCP hands the keys to the MCC to every probationary member of every corporation. Said recruit takes the MCC for a joyride during a PC battle. The joyrider trumpets his super secret spy skills as if it were anything other than a broken game mechanic. Players desperate for some form of metta game trumpet this broken mechanic as a breakthrough in gaming. Eventually CCP fixes the broken mechanic and requires real effort to infiltrate a corporation. Its barely metagame It takes nothing to get into a corp and ruin a PC match When it gets fixed these so called super spies are ** Also new players looking for corps are also **** since every major corp in PC or looking to be apart of it has stopped recruitment

Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 109	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:37:00 - [11] - Quote Skihids wrote: Abu Stij wrote: stormyuk wrote: As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of ****. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet. It actually has ignited interest. One of the big sells for EVE is being able to be that super secret espionage master you always pretended to be. The fact you can do it in an FPS now, is very intriguing and has made EVE Online players far more interested in this "expansion" than they previously were. There was a clear lack of a meta-game until recently, and as the forums have indicated this has breathed new life into an otherwise plateaued community. Player gets hired as a raw recruit, spending zero time gaining the trust of the mercenary corporation. CCP hands the keys to the MCC to every probationary member of every corporation. Said recruit takes the MCC for a joyride during a PC battle. The joyrider trumpets his super secret spy skills as if it were anything other than a broken game mechanic. Players desperate for some form of metta game trumpet this broken mechanic as a breakthrough in gaming. Eventually CCP fixes the broken mechanic and requires real effort to infiltrate a corporation. No, CCP gave the MCC to the corp that owns the territory. The corp then gives the new recruit access by recruiting them.
steadyhand amarr BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 562	Posted - 2013.05.20 14:40:00 - [12] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: All it takes now for dust to rocket is Sha Kharn and Jenza in a bonnie and clyde romance pull out of CRONOS with 14 billion isk worth of tears and a magazine to write an article on it. oops, wrong char posting DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1428	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:36:00 - [13] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: Skihids wrote: Abu Stij wrote: stormyuk wrote: As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of ****. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet. It actually has ignited interest. One of the big sells for EVE is being able to be that super secret espionage master you always pretended to be. The fact you can do it in an FPS now, is very intriguing and has made EVE Online players far more interested in this "expansion" than they previously were. There was a clear lack of a meta-game until recently, and as the forums have indicated this has breathed new life into an otherwise plateaued community. Player gets hired as a raw recruit, spending zero time gaining the trust of the mercenary corporation. CCP hands the keys to the MCC to every probationary member of every corporation. Said recruit takes the MCC for a joyride during a PC battle. The joyrider trumpets his super secret spy skills as if it were anything other than a broken game mechanic. Players desperate for some form of metta game trumpet this broken mechanic as a breakthrough in gaming. Eventually CCP fixes the broken mechanic and requires real effort to infiltrate a corporation. No, CCP gave the MCC to the corp that owns the territory. The corp then gives the new recruit access by recruiting them. By that logic: New employee hires into CCP as probationary forum moderator. Icelandic regulations requires CCP to pass out the root password to Tranquility to the new employee. New employee runs rampant through Tranquility bringing it down during an important game convention with the gaming press in attendance. New employee is hailed by outsiders for his leet spy skilz. CCP fumes but players tell them to HTFU, they should have formed the "Tranquility Holding Company" to own the server.
Naedeus DUST University Ivy League 45	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:45:00 - [14] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: http://themittani.com/news/dust-514-eve-culture-shock-and-grief-university Tried my hand at a news article this time around, there's been a lot going on. Wonderful article Eltra, well written, and well researched. I didn't know The Red Guards and Unverisal Allies were infiltrated and sabotaged.
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet 92	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:42:00 - [15] - Quote Naedeus wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: http://themittani.com/news/dust-514-eve-culture-shock-and-grief-university Tried my hand at a news article this time around, there's been a lot going on. Wonderful article Eltra, well written, and well researched. I didn't know The Red Guards and Unverisal Allies were infiltrated and sabotaged. TRG was hit by Betamax and UA was hit by GU, iirc. I did have the battle screens somewhere.
Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 115	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:48:00 - [16] - Quote Skihids wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: Skihids wrote: Abu Stij wrote: stormyuk wrote: As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of ****. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet. It actually has ignited interest. One of the big sells for EVE is being able to be that super secret espionage master you always pretended to be. The fact you can do it in an FPS now, is very intriguing and has made EVE Online players far more interested in this "expansion" than they previously were. There was a clear lack of a meta-game until recently, and as the forums have indicated this has breathed new life into an otherwise plateaued community. Player gets hired as a raw recruit, spending zero time gaining the trust of the mercenary corporation. CCP hands the keys to the MCC to every probationary member of every corporation. Said recruit takes the MCC for a joyride during a PC battle. The joyrider trumpets his super secret spy skills as if it were anything other than a broken game mechanic. Players desperate for some form of metta game trumpet this broken mechanic as a breakthrough in gaming. Eventually CCP fixes the broken mechanic and requires real effort to infiltrate a corporation. No, CCP gave the MCC to the corp that owns the territory. The corp then gives the new recruit access by recruiting them. By that logic: New employee hires into CCP as probationary forum moderator. Icelandic regulations requires CCP to pass out the root password to Tranquility to the new employee. New employee runs rampant through Tranquility bringing it down during an important game convention with the gaming press in attendance. New employee is hailed by outsiders for his leet spy skilz. CCP fumes but players tell them to HTFU, they should have formed the "Tranquility Holding Company" to own the server. Real world analogies don't bode well in video games where only pixels are at stake. Also, there is a EULA. I suggest you read it. Anything it does not expressly forbid is permitted. Likewise, a CCP employee will have signed an agreement to the effect that such action would have consequences. Just like any action taken in DUST or EVE, whether it's in line with, or against, the EULA.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 757	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:59:00 - [17] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Skihids wrote: Abu Stij wrote: stormyuk wrote: As I said in the other thread... Igniting player interest which was waning? What a load of **. The game has been growing in numbers steadily since launch and I would guess 90% or more of the players have not even been involved in PC yet. It actually has ignited interest. One of the big sells for EVE is being able to be that super secret espionage master you always pretended to be. The fact you can do it in an FPS now, is very intriguing and has made EVE Online players far more interested in this "expansion" than they previously were. There was a clear lack of a meta-game until recently, and as the forums have indicated this has breathed new life into an otherwise plateaued community. Player gets hired as a raw recruit, spending zero time gaining the trust of the mercenary corporation. CCP hands the keys to the MCC to every probationary member of every corporation. Said recruit takes the MCC for a joyride during a PC battle. The joyrider trumpets his super secret spy skills as if it were anything other than a broken game mechanic. Players desperate for some form of metta game trumpet this broken mechanic as a breakthrough in gaming. Eventually CCP fixes the broken mechanic and requires real effort to infiltrate a corporation. Its barely metagame It takes nothing to get into a corp and ruin a PC match When it gets fixed these so called super spies are ** Also new players looking for corps are also **** since every major corp in PC or looking to be apart of it has stopped recruitment Exactly, its not meta game at all. Its abarely concealed exploit with too much reward for too little gain.
Nariec Carbon 7 16	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:17:00 - [18] - Quote If AWOXING keeps up, CCP will lose potential new players and some veterans who are frustrated with lack of control on PC. The term "Welcome to New Eden" will not suffice as much in DUST because simply, the game is free, people can pick it up, get frustrated, leave the game and play other FPS out there that offers more "fun" than "frustration". Lets face it, EVE has a lot of contents, you can do so much without engaging in PVP, while DUST is ALL about PVP. I'm not saying I'm against "infiltrating" other Corps, I just want a compromise, something like, Corporation Officer will get to decide you can join PC and who couldn't. Makes "sabotage" missions a lot harder and requires the "Spy" to gain the trust of the Corporate Officer, just like in EVE.
Model No 0001 Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.05.20 21:20:00 - [19] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Exactly, its not meta game at all. Its abarely concealed exploit with too much reward for too little gain. It's not an exploit, and there is a lot to be gained. Like whole districts. And making corps stop recruiting, thus speeding up the process of player atrophy in those corps. The fact that we at Gried U have instilled so much fear into the general population that corps are kicking new players before corp battles is a better outcome than we ever expected when we decided to unleash this onto the galaxy.
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet 100	Posted - 2013.05.21 15:05:00 - [20] - Quote Anything done in the name of new players ultimately benefits old players more. If you neutralize awoxing and the like, who really benefits? New players, who are no longer exposed to a metagame and thus are playing simply another FPS meat grinder? Or cowardly old players, who no longer have to take responsibility for their own security?



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