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ALMIGHTY STATIUS Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:17:00 - [1] - Quote so we can tell what they're allowed to not tell us so we don't have to ask a billion times.? thanks.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4420	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote CCP > Don't tell anyone about ... *whisper whisper whisper CPM> Okay!
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 97	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:30:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP > Don't tell anyone about ... *whisper whisper whisper CPM> Okay! dude please 5% pg per level skill back for tanks....
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1737	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:32:00 - [4] - Quote Is this an attempt to get info in a roundabout manner? Cause it's not a very good attempt
Setaceous Prime Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:35:00 - [5] - Quote Assume they're not allowed to tell you anything until after it's been announced by CCP.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 354	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:40:00 - [6] - Quote There isn't enough red tape for my liking. Th cpm is supposed to be our link to ccp, but their mouths are stapled shut. We need another group that speaks to and for us to talk to the cpm to talk to ccp Does that sound sad to need yet another group to get a legitimate conversation going?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 343	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:45:00 - [7] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: There isn't enough red tape for my liking. Th cpm is supposed to be our link to ccp, but their mouths are stapled shut. We need another group that speaks to and for us to talk to the cpm to talk to ccp Does that sound sad to need yet another group to get a legitimate conversation going? So... the community?
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 354	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:58:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena No I mean a player elected group that we can run stuff through so we know its heard, we can flame each other and it's great but who will be our actual representative? Everything I read from the cpm is them talking at us, not to us. As far as I am concerned they are now ccp interns, not a player council.
I-Can't Feel My-Legs Valor Company Incorporated 10	Posted - 2013.05.19 23:17:00 - [9] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Everything I read from the cpm is them talking at us, not to us. This. Kain seems to be the only one having actual conversations. Jenza and Iron just troll the forums. Nova's ok, but the others are unheard of here.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3121	Posted - 2013.05.19 23:50:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP > Don't tell anyone about ... whisper whisper whisper CPM> Okay! MTACS!! DO IT FOR THE MTACS!!!* A noble sacrifice indeed, good sir

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4427	Posted - 2013.05.19 23:56:00 - [11] - Quote MTACs as stated in 2013 fanfest is not going to be out until 2014 or later.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4427	Posted - 2013.05.19 23:58:00 - [12] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Arkena Everything I read from the cpm is them talking at us, not to us. As far as I am concerned they are now ccp interns, not a player council. At least I listen to you guys. Just right now NDA is making it very very difficult to have 'discussions' because its so easy to have it walk into something that is NDA covered and I really don't like playing chicken at times with getting nailed by IA or legitimately carrying the conversation forward.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3121	Posted - 2013.05.19 23:58:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: MTACs as stated in 2013 fanfest is not going to be out until 2014 or later. It was also stated that they weren't showing them because "they didn't want to" :p DO IT FOR THE MTACS IRON WOLF!!! (I jest, keep up the good work >_<) Seriously though, if you ever get down time from important stuff, try and get them to spill some MTAC concept art :p
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4429	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:08:00 - [14] - Quote Take this for example... I have a difficult time to try to talk to you guys about things that are in planning right now as mentioned here but are not published yet. Such as most of the content like tree redesign/readjustment mentioned in this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75833&find=unread The most I can do at this point is preemptively gather feedback and listen and point out things such as concerning the tree skill respeccing. However in other cases I can be among the first to tell you that CCP is well aware of the self attacking bug and is working to get it resolved as quickly as possible. There is also times I can have conversations when it involves things not even on the 'radar' as at that point its more about generating the idea and expanding options rather than discussing what CCP is planning with that said feature. The other things I can have a conversation about is things you guys find first, for example AWOXing issues (unless you guys managed to find super secret squirrel stuff that I wasn't supposed to see either). I am more than happy to have a discussion over it. As for where I stand is that I agree there needs to be more measures put in to prevent causal spies from walking in and screwing you over. I gave the only solution I could come up with for short term until a fix is in though.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 355	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:22:00 - [15] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: Arkena Everything I read from the cpm is them talking at us, not to us. As far as I am concerned they are now ccp interns, not a player council. At least I listen to you guys. Just right now NDA is making it very very difficult to have 'discussions' because its so easy to have it walk into something that is NDA covered and I really don't like playing chicken at times with getting nailed by IA or legitimately carrying the conversation forward. What I tell CCP and what I tell you guys however is almost two different pictures at times though because there is a certain way you address CCP and there is no real formal manner to address you guys. I don't blame the CPM for what has become of the CPM. Like I said you guys have your mouths stapled shut. It's lame what they do to you and it defeats the purpose of the CPM. I just want a discussion In a OMG AV OP thread, for a real rep to come say, oh well how many AV rounds should kill a HAV , what upgrades, what about these skills, how does teamwork fit in? All those lead to real discussions. Mostly now we just flame each other. And I don't run HAV or AV, so I don't care lol


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