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Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.20 05:29:00 -
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they out cloned hellstorm after the halfway mark and still lost... wow |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
77
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Posted - 2013.05.20 05:36:00 -
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Thanks for the post D-Marauder. You have convinced me of the awesomeness that is upper tier TARs. My Repec Medic Alt is going rifle, F' all those other weapons. |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
130
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Posted - 2013.05.20 05:41:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:they out cloned hellstorm after the halfway mark and still lost... wow
Indeed. The players within the CRONOS alliance that snuck into our team team killed each other including themselves. But, I guess that is the 'wow' factor. Not only did we get infiltrated, but still won with a massive disadvantage.
P.S. Shout out to Punisher for taking the responsibility to team kill all CRONOS players on our team, I know he was a huge asset in that manner |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
990
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Posted - 2013.05.20 06:01:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:Story is true, and BetaMax don't act so butthurt. You tried a tactic to ensure the win, we were just simply better then you. Sha Kharn Clone and Jenza both were on out team, team killing everyone like crazy. At the end of the day, we were better, we knew what was going on and we knew how to counter it. I will be posting video here shortly of the douche-baggery that took place. CRONOS has bitten off way more than they can chew, enjoy your districts while you still have them.
This thread is much needed to explicit how a "CPM" plays this game. Play right, and don't hide behind "Welcome to New Eden." it's bull****, you know it, I know it and the Dust community knows it.
Video coming soon No such thing as playing fair in EVE or Dust, get over it. Ever heard of A Harm and what happened to them when they said essentially the same thing to RnK?
There's a difference between playing the game well, playing the meta game well, and exploiting a broken mechanic.
CCP agrees that it's something which should be changed. At minimum it's in poor taste for a member of the first CSM (the appointed CSM) to be engaged in such behavior. The last thing a newly launched game needs is bad press and people can try to spin it as somehow "part of the meta game" all they want but lacking game client functionality causing asset losses via a method which requires little to no effort or guile isn't anything like EVEs history of intrigue and secrecy. There are no fleet finder settings here, not even functional in game standings. There are no APIs here, there's no OpsSec in choosing your own staging area, no ability to scout it or control it. No Director roles, no POS access needed. No passwords, no cost associated with creation of new accounts or PSN IDs. Comparing the ability to click "join battle" on the correct tab in the battlefinder to the meta of EVE is at best laughable. New Eden is brutal, unforgiving, harsh, complex and deadly... but does not cater to the lowest common denominator, it is not easy. Dust 514 especially within it's most persistent elements (currently PC) needs to maintain that baseline or it devalues the sandbox by watering down New Eden. Why plan and scheme, why build and develop when the client does not provide any tool or mechanisms to deal with the potential losses these few button pushes can cause (both kick functions and CREST have been stated as incoming what's their ETA? What is the public stance of CCP on use of these broken mechanics? What is CCPs public stance on members of the CPM using broken mechanics for personal advantage within PC?).
I am firmly of a mind that CCP needs to issue a statement on this matter (the matter as a whole not any specific battle more or less) and sooner rather than later.
My 0.02 ISK Cross |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
100
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Posted - 2013.05.20 06:30:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:they out cloned hellstorm after the halfway mark and still lost... wow
If you mean all the batamax "spys" started suicideing cuz they could not even kill their own teammates effectively then yes they out cloned them. |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
130
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Posted - 2013.05.20 06:38:00 -
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Jenza
Whether this is truly her or not (assuming it is, seeing her recent actions.) I am still dazzled how she is a CPM. This photo is from our website . I don't understand how CCP could say we select you Jenza to represent the Dust Community.
CRONOS; hope you know Sha and Jenza both brought this upon your alliance. I wish every corporation in your alliance the best of luck.
P.S. Seeing how two CEO's claim to play this game 'fairly' or whatever the case is, there is no justification for what your doing. And for the record Jenza, here's some juicy stuff you should know about Sha. When Hellstorm was in an alliance with Seraphim, DJINN Punishers' PS3 went down for over a month. During this time, Sha took it upon himself to approach me to recruit players from your corporation (Toyboi in particular, and some others which I forget the names.) He had told me he had a 'pact' so to say with you at this time explicating how he wouldn't poach on your corp. In order to surpass this 'pact' he wanted me (and this is when I was known as BlAkK iC3) to recruit players from BetaMax. into Hellstorm so in turn he could recruit them to Seraphim Initiative. I know he will bow up and down saying this didn't happen, it doesn't stop here but I won't continue further.
So again to everyone in the CRONOS alliance, you will soon be second guessing your stay as the 'meta-game' of Dust starts to show the true colors of your leaders. Good luck. |
Kinky Fat Bastard
IQQ all day
0
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Posted - 2013.05.20 07:03:00 -
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Cool story there little Djinn Pup - whilst you're on your forums could you post me the link that Punisher put up for the discount code for the Cronus xtreme controller mod?
Oh no, it's ok I still have the screengrab
That's right, that old lady Punisher and a few others in your crew all use modded controllers no wonder so many Tac AR's were being used by your bunch of cheating scrubs. |
Freshticles
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
117
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Posted - 2013.05.20 07:54:00 -
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Good riddance. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
68
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Posted - 2013.05.20 08:11:00 -
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Sometimes you win, sometimes not. No big deal. Sooner or later still you gone lose this district. |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
137
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Posted - 2013.05.20 09:21:00 -
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It's not a matter of winning or losing, it's a matter of proving a point. Although this 'point' is not obvious to CRONOS, it soon will be. |
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Kasshern s Chrome
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
65
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Posted - 2013.05.20 09:25:00 -
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I vote Mavado v Noriega for CPM.. there should be one from each major alliance not all from the same alliance pretty much... TISK TISK CCP giving scubs power |
DeeJay One
BetaMax. CRONOS.
28
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Posted - 2013.05.20 09:52:00 -
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Kasshern s Chrome wrote:I vote Mavado v Noriega for CPM.. there should be one from each major alliance not all from the same alliance pretty much... TISK TISK CCP giving scubs power This is not the CPM you are looking for. CPM 1 will be a real CPM with all those ALT-s voting for CoD players ;) Hang on, it will be SoonGäó |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
61
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:21:00 -
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i'm really enjoying this smack talk, actually, it's getting really heated
WELCOME TO EVE CONSOLE KIDS, IT'S GOOD FIGHTS AND LOTS OF HATRED |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
68
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:27:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:It's not a matter of winning or losing, it's a matter of proving a point. Although this 'point' is not obvious to CRONOS, it soon will be. Point is that smarter opponent usually wins. You were aware of our tactics and had a ready counter-tactics to it. It's harder to deal with something unexpected. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1080
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:33:00 -
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OP +1
Now that is ******* bad no matter which way it gets spinned, they failed at trying to make a corp fail
Tanks for the laugh |
Callidus Vanus
BetaMax. CRONOS.
55
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:01:00 -
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Not going to lie we are really bad at this game and lost even with a squad of infiltrators on the Hellstorm side (gg btw), but we won using the same tactic against EoN.
So BetaMax > EoN |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:01:00 -
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The only people butthurt here are Hellstorm. We are perfectly fine about losing, it happens. We don't bicker about it. Yet here they are saying we are exploiters, over a mechanic applauded by EVE players. And its not like one game is the end of the world, always another time. This time though you should try to infiltrate us, personal challenge |
Gunner Needed
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
143
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:30:00 -
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Hmmmm, those grenades seem pretty PTW. lol thanks 4 the vid though. funny stuff |
Saoa Scum
Judge Mercenaries
10
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:35:00 -
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This is just hilarious...
You didnt even break thru their MCC shield... :D |
Banned From Forums
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:43:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:The only people butthurt here are Hellstorm. We are perfectly fine about losing, it happens. We don't bicker about it. Yet here they are saying we are exploiters, over a mechanic applauded by EVE players. And its not like one game is the end of the world, always another time. This time though you should try to infiltrate us, personal challenge
Why should Hellstorm try to infiltrate you? Any NPC corp in the academy can beat you. SMH! |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1231
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:44:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:JenzaWhether this is truly her or not (assuming it is, seeing her recent actions.) I am still dazzled how she is a CPM. This photo is from our website . I don't understand how CCP could say we select you Jenza to represent the Dust Community. CRONOS; hope you know Sha and Jenza both brought this upon your alliance. I wish every corporation in your alliance the best of luck. P.S. Seeing how two CEO's claim to play this game 'fairly' or whatever the case is, there is no justification for what your doing. And for the record Jenza, here's some juicy stuff you should know about Sha. When Hellstorm was in an alliance with Seraphim, DJINN Punishers' PS3 went down for over a month. During this time, Sha took it upon himself to approach me to recruit players from your corporation (Toyboi in particular, and some others which I forget the names.) He had told me he had a 'pact' so to say with you at this time explicating how he wouldn't poach on your corp. In order to surpass this 'pact' he wanted me (and this is when I was known as BlAkK iC3) to recruit players from BetaMax. into Hellstorm so in turn he could recruit them to Seraphim Initiative. I know he will bow up and down saying this didn't happen, it doesn't stop here but I won't continue further. So again to everyone in the CRONOS alliance, you will soon be second guessing your stay as the 'meta-game' of Dust starts to show the true colors of your leaders. Good luck.
So, Jenza can not be a player, because she helps CCP as a CPM? Right. I would ask Jenza to be CPM over any of you scrubs, your inability to enjoy yourselves being one of the key reasons, everyone is so serious and the moment someone is not everyone gets mad. y so srs blakk?
P.S. Trying to turn people against eachother when you're clearly butthurt and serious won't work, need to get laid, off you go :) |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:49:00 -
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Banned From Forums wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:The only people butthurt here are Hellstorm. We are perfectly fine about losing, it happens. We don't bicker about it. Yet here they are saying we are exploiters, over a mechanic applauded by EVE players. And its not like one game is the end of the world, always another time. This time though you should try to infiltrate us, personal challenge Why should Hellstorm try to infiltrate you? Any NPC corp in the academy can beat you. SMH! B&%"H you just jealous of ma Super Saiyan Swagger
In seriousness though, yes we lost. Our gun game sucked (I Wasn't even in the game though). But in New Eden gun game isn't everything. See all those districts we have? That was due to meta-game planning. Try and do the same I mean come on, since when did Goonswarm have great gungame? Its universal knowledge they suck individually, but as a team they are excellent at winning areas over. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:55:00 -
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pink FLUFF wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Two of the three guys got DC/'d, there was one guy trying to team kill alone lol Last time we had 5 players doing that.
We were out gunned, gg. You really should post on your main. My main is banned ^_^ |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:00:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:pink FLUFF wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Two of the three guys got DC/'d, there was one guy trying to team kill alone lol Last time we had 5 players doing that.
We were out gunned, gg. You really should post on your main. My main is banned ^_^ I wonder why... |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:21:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:pink FLUFF wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Two of the three guys got DC/'d, there was one guy trying to team kill alone lol Last time we had 5 players doing that.
We were out gunned, gg. You really should post on your main. My main is banned ^_^ I wonder why... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j291Y0vD0nI/T96G0b8A5XI/AAAAAAAAE5E/WYGTbr8IAWQ/s1600/Spam.jpg |
Beta Dust Fish
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:45:00 -
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looks like its time for ALL Corps to come to a "temporary" cease fire and focus on the Removal of Betamax and Seraphin Int. off of Planetary Conquest and keep it that way.
I seriously can't believe I am agreeing with some of the Corps in this thread but what must be done for the Good of the Game should be done.
in the end of road we all know CCP will give her something anyways |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
224
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:49:00 -
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Beta Dust Fish wrote:looks like its time for ALL Corps to come to a "temporary" cease fire and focus on the Removal of Betamax and Seraphin Int. off of Planetary Conquest and keep it that way.
I seriously can't believe I am agreeing with some of the Corps in this thread but what must be done for the Good of the Game should be done.
in the end of road we all know CCP will give her something anyways Someone is butthurt because we win at takin districts Also why do you give two if you are in a npc corp?? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3122
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:53:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Someone is butthurt because we win at takin districts
You spam that X button, you crazy space cowboy you |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
224
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Someone is butthurt because we win at takin districts You spam that X button, you crazy space cowboy you Im actually (and so is jenza) for the director allowing certain people to join rule :P But if that gets the infiltration, I blame the infiltrated corp for accepting me into their main |
Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
123
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:16:00 -
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good video. notice exmaple core killed the guy playing with a grenade. given his history might want to make sure he wasnt part of the tk group. |
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