You misread. I put the "intended" in there intentionally. They were always meant for a defensive role.

You're trying to force a class into a specific role...that's not what this game is meant for. Like saying the scout suit is only for sniping in mountains, the assault suit is only for assaulting with AR's, the logi suit is only for healing people.

You can't shove a specific role on a class, regardless what CCP says about it.

I had a corpmate that made his tank as fast as LAV's just cuz HE COULD. If you think heavies are ONLY for defense then that's a real ignorant outlook to classes.

I personally have always wanted the Heavy class to be a CQC nightmare. I think the Heavy should be a class that has one dominating strength and multiple weaknesses. It should be a juggernaut that excels at close range and destroys everything, but it should be a class that is completely worthless at mid to long range. That would be the trade-off for having such lethal ability at close range. I would also give HMGGÇÖs insane power and burn up. I have always been annoyed that CCP has allowed this pitiful burn up mechanic to exist and it allows any scrub heavy to hold the trigger down to get kills. Heavy should be a skillful class that is a high risk and high reward weapon. Maxing out HMG operation should not mean that you never burn up and in fact the burn up should be incredible to the point that you have to grab level 5 in order to somewhat control it. I also would significantly increase the turning speed of the Heavy because itGÇÖs a joke right now. I have seen rail guns turn faster. Heavy should be a class that you have to strategically place in order for it to be effective and it should require patience from those that use it.

To those that want heavy to be used from a defensive position. Be careful what you wish for because if CCP goes ahead and gives suppression mechanics to heavies then youGÇÖre in for a rude awakening. I come from BF3 and while suppression is great in concept itGÇÖs terrible in practice. Think of the suppression a Mass driver inflicts and multiply it by 10 because that is what a HMG will do if given suppression mechanics. If you think spray and pray was annoying now wait until a HMG kills you because a Heavy is literally holding down the button with 425 bullets of suppression fury.

Do I know you?

This... tried to say this already but i go from experiance not numbers lol.

35% dispertion might be right... but that isnt a direct reduction in dps! If i put the barrels of my gun and plant them on someones face dispertion means squat... if i then move back a meter im still hitting for full... 10m sure, i might get the odd stray bullet... 20m, i might start losing some dps... 30m, missing more... 40m now theres some notable loss...

but never have i lost 35% of my dps... not until theyre out past my optimal and my recitle is twice the size of the target anyway lol and of course that reduces after firing a bit... more if i aim down the "sights"

Hmg is fine it need that hard stop dmg to increase and the turn speed is a lil to slow thats it dmg and everythibgis good

There is CQC and sniping at the moment, there is no mid range game and hmg has more distance then the AR's

Damage mods or Flux

So you are a master with it even though you havent specced it? Obviously its not easiest thing in the game to use or everyone would be using it. And what do kills have to do with my comment? pretty sure I never said anything about kills, I do just fine. You must have been on the business end one too many times and are butthurt about it.

Heavy Machine Guns are not CQC weapons. Thats what SMGs are for.

Heavy machine gun definition: The heavy machine gun or HMG is a larger class of machine gun generally recognized to refer to two separate stages of machine gun development. The term was originally used to refer to the generation of machine guns which came into widespread use in World War I. These fired standard rifle cartridges such as the 7.92 Mauser, .303 British or 7.62+ù54mmR, but featured heavy construction, elaborate mountings, and water-cooling mechanisms that enabled long-range sustained automatic fire with excellent accuracy.

SubMachinegun Definition: A submachine gun (SMG) is an automatic carbine, designed to fire pistol cartridges.[1] It combines the automatic fire of a machine gun with the cartridge of a pistol and have poor accuracy past 50m.

"hey this the future don't compare Dust to modern day"... Unless we aren't using english in DUST it applies. These are definitions not comparisons. This is what it is to be in these category of weapon. As it stands the HMG is just a SMG with a big clip...

Also you're not your (of course this could mean you don't understand english...in which case quit skipping summer school to play)

I'd pwn every heavy in this thread btw. ;)