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Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:16:00 -
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Oh goody, I always wanted to be a part of one of these threads.
Adressing AWOXing - this has been a long time and supported meta-game strategy that CCP has supported, including early into DUST 514's development. There is nothing that will "ruin" Planetary Conquests, it actually adds more to the "risk/reward" that a group must factor in.
To the OP; calling for just two CPM0 members to be forcefully removed for supporting a mechanic, and in at least one case participating in it, is not the most ideal way to get your message across. If your petition succeeds it will only state that CCP has little to no interest in making DUST 514 much beyond a FPS clone that lacks the depth of its sister game, EVE Online, which is heavily a part of this games long term success. If you refer back to an early promotional video CCP makes it shown that a DUST 514 group is betrayed by their EVE counterpart. This is in essence AWOXing and was, seemingly, a part of a Planetary Conquest. Your stance is counter to what CCP put out there for all potential consumers to latch onto and opt to use DUST 514 than Call of Duty, Planetside 2 and any other FPS game in the market.
The only legitimate complaint you can make at this point is that there is no API system in place for corporations to verify a member has a clean background and isn't likely to AWOX or steal valuables. This system is in place in EVE and even then the players find a way around it, its not perfect but it works as intended. You want a deterrent to the system and to call for someone who was able to successfully AWOX be removed from the council that talks directly with CCP over matters such at these, you are in fact making it impossible for an adequate countermeasure to be put in place. Jenza knows the loophole and can help CCP understand how to not only allow groups to be protected by such a loophole, but to exploit it for themselves.
There is a thing we mention in other games about "honor" and "respect", its called E-Bushido and its very hard to find someone in a CCP game, whether it be EVE, DUST 514 or even down the line in World of Darkness, who will give a damn about such a train of thought. CCP makes games that are known as "social experiments" by some, and are all about backstabbing, and taking advantage of your opponents weaknesses. This is common practice in EVE, and will be common practice in DUST 514.
Your concerns about Planetary Conquest being ruined and DUST dropping to just 1000 members are unfounded and just pure speculation on your part and are based solely on your emotional response to the situation. As previously stated, CCP has supported AWOXing in all its forms over the past 10 years and have been praised for creating such a cut-throat universe for players to be a part of. Removing this element from DUST 514, an expansion of sorts for EVE Online, would be far more detrimental to the long term health of the game. Its unfortunate if you were a victim, but perhaps take off the tinfoil hat that Riverini stapled to your head and learn more about how EVE/DUST work than complain outright about an actual mechanic being used successfully as it was intended. Instead, please provide possible ways for potential victims to protect themselves (API, Auth systems etc. etc.)
Your faithfully
Abu Stij
Member of GoonFeet Survivor of Cerebral Wolf's Leadership Defector of Immobile Infantry Propaganda Creator Veteran of the Podcast War in MechWarrior Online Market Gouger of Wicked Creek Slayer of Pubbies Drinker of Tears |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:33:00 -
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Dexter Peabody wrote:kill everything
How dare you suggest we kill things indiscrimately, where is your e-bushido? |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:49:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Please explain the corruption of the imperfects
I heard this one guy say this guy he talked to told his sister that her roommates best friend's fuckbuddy had a drug dealer who was in Imperfects. It's totally legit info bro.
Alaika Arbosa wrote:if these allegations are true
Also, if this is true about her spending the night with a member of CCP during fanfest, then how can anyone (outside of Jenza and the CCP member) be 100% sure that other sensitive information wasn't passed on? How do you know that there aren't any other internal weaknesses in the code that may have been passed along? Passing along information such as loopholes in the code is the same at this point in time (given that this happened just at the open of PC) as passing along items to profit in-game.
Wait, wait, wait. You're asserting that, POTENTIALLY, Jenza slept with someone in CCP to get onto the CPM she was already assigned to....several weeks after the fact she was given that role.
I'm gonna just let you sit there with the tinfoil hat, I have no words to describe the level of stupid that just came from your brain. |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:57:00 -
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Dexter Peabody wrote:This thread just took a turn for the hilarious
Its the gift that keeps on giving.
Grezkev wrote:You're right. There are asshats, Griefers, Teamkillers, and otherwise lame people. It is however rare to see someone admit that they are one!
Bravo, Asshat.
You sound mad you lost your toys. Wanna talk about it? |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:00:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: If a CPM is sleeping with members of the GM team or CCP that's a clear conflict of interest and we won't stand for it, personal life or not. Pretty pathetic too lmfao
Once you can provide any credible evidence supporting those claims it'll be a great day for you and you're neckbeard friends.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:03:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:That's funny, I'm on the A team in the mother corp of the most skilled alliance in the game....who exactly are you again? Just another irrelevant clan hopping child LOL glad you're branded with DJINN forever just so everyone knows you're nothing but a corp hopper with a big mouth.
It's funny you think that matters in a CCP game. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:06:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Oh man. I guess you haven't heard the rumors about what I used to do to get the news I passed onto the community, then?
It's cool, I got it all on video tape. Who knew you and Fozzie had the same birthmark on your butts?
Nova Knife wrote: But back on topic : OP, you better add me to this list too.
Not only do I love it, but I completely condemn this horse**** opinion that people should need director roles to do this, and that people should be able to kick people from matches, and all those weak "MY GAME SHOULD BE 100% SAFE" arguments.
Sure, it's a bit easy to do now. But if a role to join PC has to be made. There should simply be a "Can join PC" role. -Maybe- A 'Can join PC as squad leader' but this director only thing is the worst idea surrounding PC I've heard since reading that clones would be your primary income and your attack resource combined.
This 'I should be able to kick people from my matches' idea needs to die, and burn in a fire right here. Kicking is a horrible solution. If it becomes harder (See previous paragraph) to awox, if you get awox'd you shouldn't have a 'mulligan' button that can easily stop it without any real effort on your part. That's just as cheap as the tactic you're complaining about, tbh. If someone worms their allies into your team with sabotage in mind, all the consequences associated with that should be in play. Any measures CCP implements about this should be preventative (See previous paragraph) but after the fact, you should have to live with it.
You're the hero we want, not the hero we need. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:08:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: I've been here since closed beta...maybe you should go back to SA, you're clearly not ready for forum PvP against anyone with half a brain.
Says the guy ignoring the other posts engaging in "Forum PVP"*
*Hint: we call that debate in the real world. |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:10:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:EON have officially just became the biggest group of carebears this side of new Eden. You lose because of infiltration and are now trying to bismerch someone's rl reputation instead of owning up to the loss.
Did you guys honestly believe you didn't have any spies in your corp? I wouldn't be surprised if half of all the major corps were just alts of members from every other major corp.
D-uni, who are primarily all newbies/noobs got torn a new one thanks to this stuff and they didn't go off the handle like this. How does it feel to be lower than an academic corp?
Well to be fair, its far easier to blame others for your own incompetence than admitting you're just bad at something. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:14:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: Please iron, his rebuttal wasn't even worth replying to @Abu a debate would imply there's some form of intelligent discussion taking place in an orderly manner. That is certainly not the case. Please, tell an adult male living on his own more about the real world.
I failed to find your intelligent discussion on the matter so I would assume you're just as incompetent at discussion as Xaerael is.
And congrats on being a homeowner, though I wouldn't call trailer's a home, nor renting a lot as "owning" but I guess the GED can only teach you so much.
Also you do realize the housing market is rather weak in almost the majority of states and as a result the poor can own their own home easily right? It's not that much of a claim but hey, you make that mountain out of an ant-hill. You go girl! |
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Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:17:00 -
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ITT: EON get mad that they're bad at DUST514. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:21:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:
And now you're QQing so hard that you have resorted to say that someone slept with a dev to beat you. Do you realize how idiotic you are being? They made a move and it worked, deal with it.
Who in their right mind would keep open recruitment on after hearing about Duni and SI(I think) being infiltrated. You make it sound that EON is lead by morons. At least if it was a well executed plan, you would have a leg to stand on. However, you didn't even get caughy with your pants down, your spread your cheeks out for them.
shhh shhh shhh....calm down young one, let them pretend they were cheated. Next you'll find out that they're writing over at EveNews24 and all have "Riverini > The Mittani" t-shirts on at Fanfest 2014. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:23:00 -
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Dexter Peabody wrote:in the interest of full disclosure i once hugged ccp veritas
I was conned into buying CCP Eyjo Guddmussen a beer at fanfest. Don't take him up on any of his bets. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:33:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: These are some of the most pathetic blind shots in the dark I have seen in YEARS. Living in a trailer? Renting a lot? HAHAHAHA OH GOD COMEDY GOLD
I got into the housing market after the bubble popped, got a decent house at a price nobody would have dreamed of 10 years ago. Not all of us can be successful in life, so don't take it personal :(
These "blind shots" seem about as spot on as your assumption & claim Jenza slept with a CCP member to get "insider info" to beat your super 1337 corp. And congrats on posting a resume no one really cares about, you and about a few hundred thousand others were "super smart" on buying a house at a low price.
It's also adorable you think I'm not successful at life for owning a house that was sold short and has limited recovery on the investment. Whatever will I do?
Now, if you'd stop trying to be an e-thug for about 10 seconds, yes this is hard I know but trust me you'll be better for it, and comprehend the following:
Leaderboards are meaningingless in the longterm and the fact you cling to your position like Linus clings to his safety blanket is adorably sad. Welcome to New Eden where being the "super top pvp group evar" means about as much as being the grand maestro at a symphony conducted by the blind feral monkeys of Morrocco. Those of us who are actually good at this landscape CCP made know how to manipulate far more than your corps hilarious inadequate anti-espionage protocols.
We can control the market, its that thing you buy things from in case you didn't know. Go look up OTEC when you're not busy trying to comprehend how much welfare you get this month. It's how we keep the pubbies like you down where you belong. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:47:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote: Do the Goons think they are relavent in Dust? That's cute.
It's cute that you think we don't do anything in DUST.
King Kobrah wrote:You're turning the discussion into a "LOL UR HOUSE IS DuM NEWAYS" after your "LEL U LIVE N A TRAILUR PARK" didn't work?
Your last post pretty much invalidated anything rampage said while agreeing with me. Not once did I say anything about being on leaderboards..LOL
The rest of your post boils down to a typical SA kiddie who pays money to lurk a garbage forum. keep controlling that internet market while I have fun playing with my friends, dominating the landscape of PC, and having a successful life with an education, a job, and a home.
LMFAO
WE CONTROL DA MARKUT GAIS U BETTER WATCH OUT
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
Well yes, buying a house at below market value and somehow thinking that you are in a great position to then make a ROI on it does indicate its worthless to mention.
Onto your "leaderboard never being mentioned" comment...
King Kobrah wrote:
lmfao, says a scrub who has no idea who he's talking about. who are you again? how many PC battles have you fought in? i personally have 8 under my belt ATM and plan on earning at least 100 more in the coming weeks. most skilled alliance? the dudes who got stomped by just about everyone in the game? the one whos been pushing for our districts all week but still hasnt managed to take one? the one who only uses ringers from other corps in their battles? right guy, get your facts straight then come talk to me. i dont even think synergy has one top 250 player in its ranks. and you just lost half your A+ players to league of infamy. THEYRE the threat.. not you. lol your just a joke we feel we can get some lulz out of.
I've participated in more than ten PC battles, all of which I have won, all of which i was near the top of the leaderboards at the end of the game. How can you say we've been stomped when SyN hasn't lost A SINGLE PC MATCH? LMFAO, get your facts straight kid. I know for a fact BETAmax has lost multiple PC battles, and so has your alliance (easily more than 10 losses, all cronos does is send ringers in to help orion and STILL lose) anyone who's left SyNergy is welcome to do so, but we've been equally as successful as the imperfects, as we have yet to lose a match...so I don't think we're hurting too much [/quote]
And yes, controlling the market does matter. I know your GED only took you so far but try to follow this:
Whoever controls the market controls the prices, whoever controls the prices for items can make you pay more than its worth, if you pay more that means you have less money and less items in your control, whoever does that can take your money and buy more items and make you obsolete.
As for your comments about SomethingAwful I guess thats the sort of response you'd get out of someone who can't fork over any money to read literate posts and have a discussion like an adult. It's ok, there's not like you'd have anything worthwhile to contribute that wouldn't show you're deep lack of education. |
Abu Stij
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:51:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Don't mistake arrogance for confidence, surely an esteemed member of the CPM could tell the difference between the two, right? We're in this for the long haul. SyN isn't very vocal about certain things, but I am, especially towards people who literally pay money to browse a trash forum (see: something awful)
I don't get why you're so mad you can't afford a $10 membership fee, you make at least half that at your job flipping burgers in an hour dude. |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:00:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:SA? Intelligent discussion? LMFAO
You're paying money to browse a low-tier internet forum, you'll always be living in the shadow of 4chan and other bigger, much more successful, much more worthwhile and entertaining websites.
but please, keep spending money so you can validate lowtax's only life accomplishment.
You'll always be irrlevant in DUST, and nobody here cares if YOU CAN CONTROL THE MARKET
LMFAO
U BETTER WATCH OUT OR ILL MAKE UR DUVOLLE AR COST 200 MIL A POP!!!!!!!!!!!
Look, we get it you're bitter you were turned away from Goonswarm for being an illiterate J4G, its fine.
It's so cute you think Goons are irrelevant in DUST. I have no idea who SyN are at all, is that some little clan you formed with your buddies when you were playing Halo?
It's also sad you can't comprehend how markets work, or how they can be manipulated. But you keep clinging to your Win/Loss record kid, its not like there's much else you can claim as a high point in your life. |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:04:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Anyways, before I get myself banned again, I'm gonna go ahead and roll out of this topic. If you want to continue this discussion, please feel free to PSN me @ "Kobra" or send my merc an in game mail If you want to continue this discussion here after I've already left, you're a little girl. Good day
Hara-kiri is never pretty. |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:08:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:I love how hilariously offtopic this has become.
One might even consider that the two arguing incessantly are the same person trying to draw attention away from the original topic to spare someone from some perceived embarassment?
Tinfoil time!
Who could it be? Could it be the OP? One of the CPM who have been hit with this 'insult'? Someone who agreed with either party!
THEORIES ABOUND!
Edit : Both of you should stop and shut up. I want to hear more people cry about 'awoxing' :(
Edit : Edit : Seriously, you guys need to learn to snip those pyramid quotes
It's all you Nova, its all you... |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:14:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:
Please explain to me how Goons are taking over dust - or even influencing it? Because FPS wise - your corps are as bout as good when CW was in charge. And seeing as market won't be added for a year plus - where is this confidence of today coming from?
Perhaps come back around December?
As with all things we do, you'll just have to wait and see. |
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:23:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:If I hear "htfu lel welcum 2 new eden faget" as a justification for not fixing broken systems one more time I'm going to burn down an orphanage
While I'm sure some oppressed orphans may be happy with that, its a valid counterargument to bitching about a system that actually is meant to be in place. Since you're a Reddit pre-teen you might want to talk to your EVE side buddies and ask why AWOXing is allowed and actually fun, I'm sure they've tried their hand at spying and AWOXing.
As previously stated, its a valid mechanic CCP has time and time again always supported. To remove it from DUST 514 would make this games interaction and "partnership" with EVE useless and meaningless. |
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