DUST Search - 514: This is what I think it means.

gbghg wrote:

Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:

gbghg wrote:

The roman emperors bodyguards from the year 290AD were known as the jovians and herculians.

"Jovian" means "related or pertaining to Jupiter", which is the Roman name for Zeus. I guess calling the Jovians "Prometheans" would have been a bit on the nose.

Yeah I decided to take a look at the whole roman/Greek mythology to see if I could find anything interesting in there. Since I'm not a huge fan of walls of text I didn't get much but something interesting I did find while looking at hercules's mythology was the Eleusinian Mysteries. One particular line in the Wikipedia article caught my eye

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One line of thought by modern scholars has been that the Mysteries were intended "to elevate man above the human sphere into the divine and to assure his redemption by making him a god and so conferring immortality upon him."

Personally I still think that 514 has an incredibly simple meaning and the Devs are just trolling us.


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Kaathe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 41	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:36:00 - [1] - Quote 514: After going on hunches of people thinking that 514 has some sort of symbolic meaning, I went to search up it's true origins. This is a long shot and probably makes no sense to anyone, but I would like to post this anyway to add to the discussion. 514 could be a reference to history and the future. 514 can also be the location of EVE relative to Earth. One person posted a small blurb stating that it could be reference to the galaxy labeled NGC 514. I went to search up the clue and came across something pretty interesting. NGC 514 is a galaxy located in the Pisces constellation. Looking further I found that the symbol for Pisces is strangely familiar to the Amarr symbol. The constellation outline itself also looks like the triangular point on the Amarr symbol. After finding this comparison I looked up the history of the symbol and what I found was rather interesting. The Amarr use, or recognize, 5 symbols each of which have a meaning behind them. These 5 symbols tell a story or give a setting about what went on in history. Yet there is a 6th symbol that they do not recognize; either it's origins are unknown or they haven't figure out where to use that symbol. This 6th symbol also relates to the accounts and cases of implanted test subjects being afflicted with some strange syndrome after using the implant; "Blood Red Skys, Strange Beings, and 514." The 6th symbol's color is of blood red and it does denote that man is more powerful then god; the new implant technology allows people to become immortal; the strange being could be images of past Jovians. As for the Amarr symbol I believe that the it could be an anecdote of the location EVE is relative to the location of Earth based upon the striking resemblance of the Pisces symbol. I believe that the number is a reference and a warning about EVE's past, present, and future. Given the Amarr's history of being closely connected to the EVE gate and the original human world Earth, I've came to the conclusion that the Amarr civilization, at some point in history, worked with the Jovians in creating new technologies for implants and the like; Or rather the Jovians gave the Amarr the technology they worked with. Jovians wanted everything they can to prolong the race of their people, an ultimately the race of the original humans. 514 is a sign that they are to return in the future. 5 points in history where man has struggled and rose up again. 1 moment in the present where man becomes god (Amarr symbolic history and the new implants) 4... the future of some sort, yet I could not find and explaination for. It could be: 4 events where Jove rises to power. 4 races of human's colapse (or perhaps work together?) 4 technologies that Jove have used to perpetuate live among the stars My best bet is on the last idea. So far we use 2 technologies that Jove have created to keep on living. Whose to say that 2 other technologies are still out there? Does something happen when we bring all 4 techs together? This is my opinion on the matter. I've read the 514 Chronicle so I've based some of this speculation on that piece; seeing that the Amarr have already been through the process and that they are offering a solution to the problem shows that they have been working with this technology ever since. It is possible that they might of had this implant technology all along and that the other factions discovering it could be a mistake on the Amarr's part to cover it up. (But that's a whole political matter that can be discussed another time). Feedback? Questions? Violent Reactions?
Kaathe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 52	Posted - 2013.05.19 07:14:00 - [2] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Dust meaning the cycle of life and death being manipulated and destroying the reality of death, 514 according to your theory is NGC514 meaning that New Eden in reality of eve online is just a galaxy cluster away from the milky way galaxy in the eve universe and not all the way across the universe. perhaps in the end it means that all the eden civilizations will find a way back to our galaxy and link the 2 galaxies together for good eliminating any chance of another gate collapse I was thinking that there is some other connection to Earth some how. Yet I couldn't think of anything that made any more direct connections other then just the EVE gate. Yet I think the NGC galaxy just lead me to the Amarrian history and how that relates more towards the 514 symbolism Quote: Several members of the story team just spat out their coffee. That, or they're ready to think of some other long winded story to come up with... Quote: Or else he just likes us to be envious of him and makes things up This could be the case for a whole lot of other people in New Eden
Kaathe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 54	Posted - 2013.05.19 08:31:00 - [3] - Quote Quote: perhaps its the joves that are doing something to get reunited with earth, after all rarely anyone has heard from them or encountered them since their disease started years ago, they may be advancing their technology even more than what they had when they nearly annihilated the amarr in order to cure themselves or reunite with earth to revert back to their former human bodies This could be true. And their love of information and having eyes within most of the major empires could show that they were planning this all along. Easily they could of given any empire the knowledge of cloning tech and the new implants. Amarrians were there test subjects for the time being.
Kaathe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 54	Posted - 2013.05.19 15:13:00 - [4] - Quote David Spd wrote: I personally think it's nothing more than a viral marketing attempt to get people talking about Dust. Releasing on 5/14 just furthers specIulation. I personally am annoyed greatly that part of the title of the game we're playing is some big secret. I guess it goes quite well with CCP's insistence on not telling us anything with what they're doing or why. "Dust 514! Why 514 you ask? 'CAUSE WHY THE HELL NOT?! We do what we want!" EDIT: Theory crafting from Kaathe. Praise the sun! Yeah. I had the same idea when they stated that the game was to be released on 5/14... it just ruined the fun for everyone to think. \{-¦_-¦}/ Praise the sun!
Kaathe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 59	Posted - 2013.05.19 20:58:00 - [5] - Quote gbghg wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: gbghg wrote: The roman emperors bodyguards from the year 290AD were known as the jovians and herculians. "Jovian" means "related or pertaining to Jupiter", which is the Roman name for Zeus. I guess calling the Jovians "Prometheans" would have been a bit on the nose. Yeah I decided to take a look at the whole roman/Greek mythology to see if I could find anything interesting in there. Since I'm not a huge fan of walls of text I didn't get much but something interesting I did find while looking at hercules's mythology was the Eleusinian Mysteries. One particular line in the Wikipedia article caught my eye Quote: One line of thought by modern scholars has been that the Mysteries were intended "to elevate man above the human sphere into the divine and to assure his redemption by making him a god and so conferring immortality upon him." Personally I still think that 514 has an incredibly simple meaning and the Devs are just trolling us. This still connects with the lore in-game, albeit a different path than what I looked through I guess you could sum up 514 as the number of immortality that the Jovians wanted to achieve so badly.
Kaathe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 59	Posted - 2013.05.19 21:25:00 - [6] - Quote 11Up3Down wrote: So I googled "Meaning of 514" and got something called Angel Numbers. It's total BS, but the number meaning were interesting: "Number 514 is a mix of the influences and attributes of the numbers 5, 1 and 4. Number 5 resonates with learning life lessons through experience, personal freedom and free will, major life changes, motivation and new opportunities. Number 1 adds its vibrations of inspiration and intuition, striving forward and ambition. Number 4 lends its attributes of patience, application, endurance, worthiness, conviction, passion and drive. " - Joanne Sacred Scribes Could this thought process be applied to something in the context (or history) of New Eden?