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ALMIGHTY STATIUS
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:03:00 -
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For PC battles directors should be able to do this to prevent getting spais ******* up their games. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1172
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:04:00 -
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So we get a kick from battle function but Vehicles don't get a kick from vehicle function? and we ask about it we get told to HTFU?
**** off. |
Synther Bix
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:04:00 -
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Tell me about it |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
581
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:05:00 -
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As much as i hate the idea of being able to **** up the games, i believe since it is part of the new eden this tactic is viable... :( |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1678
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:09:00 -
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hey now, we're super soldiers, immortals in fact, capable of great things. Leading armies, being leaders of hundreds or thousands of soldiers...
But the ability to control who's on your team? Pssshhh naaaaah. Why can't a director or CEO kick someone from team right?
I mean they can only control the corp, why bother letting them control who's in battle |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1566
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:11:00 -
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They're going to put in a role for that soon, don't worry.
Until then, AWOX your heart out. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
547
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:12:00 -
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ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:For PC battles directors should be able to do this to prevent getting spais ******* up their games.
I votw for this then Director spys can kick the whole team out. Great idea |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:14:00 -
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QQ MOAR |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1678
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:18:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:QQ MOAR
love the alts that come out the woodwork
makes me feel all warm inside.
But to be fair, the OP has a valid point. Jus sayin. It's not uncommon for people to post a valid point, and to have alts come out of the blue and say stuff like "HTFU!"... "QQ MOAR" ..."WELCOME TO NEW EDEN *****"...
Just lame troll attempts at this point, but I like feeding trolls cuz I find them cudly |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:20:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:QQ MOAR love the alts that come out the woodwork makes me feel all warm inside. But to be fair, the OP has a valid point. Jus sayin. It's not uncommon for people to post a valid point, and to have alts come out of the blue and say stuff like "HTFU!"... "QQ MOAR" ..."WELCOME TO NEW EDEN *****"... Just lame troll attempts at this point, but I like feeding trolls cuz I find them cudly *Hugs*
You should have measures to keep people from a game, but once they're in you shouldn't be able to kick them. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1679
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:25:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:QQ MOAR love the alts that come out the woodwork makes me feel all warm inside. But to be fair, the OP has a valid point. Jus sayin. It's not uncommon for people to post a valid point, and to have alts come out of the blue and say stuff like "HTFU!"... "QQ MOAR" ..."WELCOME TO NEW EDEN *****"... Just lame troll attempts at this point, but I like feeding trolls cuz I find them cudly *Hugs* You should have measures to keep people from a game, but once they're in you shouldn't be able to kick them.
Me? I'm not a CEO of anything |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:27:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:QQ MOAR love the alts that come out the woodwork makes me feel all warm inside. But to be fair, the OP has a valid point. Jus sayin. It's not uncommon for people to post a valid point, and to have alts come out of the blue and say stuff like "HTFU!"... "QQ MOAR" ..."WELCOME TO NEW EDEN *****"... Just lame troll attempts at this point, but I like feeding trolls cuz I find them cudly *Hugs* You should have measures to keep people from a game, but once they're in you shouldn't be able to kick them. meh... debatable. By "You" I mean players in general :) |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
540
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:28:00 -
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No. That is all. |
Brasidas Kriegen
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:04:00 -
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I reckon you should definitely be able to AWOX, but there needs to be a way for the victim to 'fight back' such as some form of kick mechanic, even if it is limited to directors or people with certain roles. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4335
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:16:00 -
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Corp Directors and Recruiters need to be better at preventing spias in the first place. You think that throwing a match is the worst we spais can do? You haven't seen anything yet. |
ALMIGHTY STATIUS
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Corp Directors and Recruiters need to be better at preventing spias in the first place. You think that throwing a match is the worst we spais can do? You haven't seen anything yet.
dust doesn't have real spais. atleast an option to stop players outside corp form joining. or alliance. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
810
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:27:00 -
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The people comparing this to EVE seem to forget that an EVE traitor doesn't immediately respawn behind you if you fight back and kill him off the battlefield. |
Banned From Forums
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:27:00 -
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ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:For PC battles directors should be able to do this to prevent getting spais ******* up their games.
+1 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4336
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:28:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:The people comparing this to EVE seem to forget that an EVE traitor doesn't immediately respawn behind you if you fight back and kill him off the battlefield.
An ounce of prevention is worth every pound of pain. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4336
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:29:00 -
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ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Corp Directors and Recruiters need to be better at preventing spias in the first place. You think that throwing a match is the worst we spais can do? You haven't seen anything yet. dust doesn't have real spais. atleast an option to stop players outside corp form joining. or alliance.
Willing to bet your entire alliance on that? If you are not doing so... you should.
The some of the worst thing some of you guys had done is promoted a spy to a recruiter position. |
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
555
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:44:00 -
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The director's a spy! No, wait, that's a heavy... |
ALMIGHTY STATIUS
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Corp Directors and Recruiters need to be better at preventing spias in the first place. You think that throwing a match is the worst we spais can do? You haven't seen anything yet. dust doesn't have real spais. atleast an option to stop players outside corp form joining. or alliance. Willing to bet your entire alliance on that? If you are not doing so... you should. The some of the worst thing some of you guys had done is promoted a spy to a recruiter position.
wanna try saying that logically please. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4342
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:21:00 -
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ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Corp Directors and Recruiters need to be better at preventing spias in the first place. You think that throwing a match is the worst we spais can do? You haven't seen anything yet. dust doesn't have real spais. atleast an option to stop players outside corp form joining. or alliance. Willing to bet your entire alliance on that? If you are not doing so... you should. The some of the worst thing some of you guys had done is promoted a spy to a recruiter position. wanna try saying that logically please.
Just step back and watch the world burn a bit. |
ALMIGHTY STATIUS
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Corp Directors and Recruiters need to be better at preventing spias in the first place. You think that throwing a match is the worst we spais can do? You haven't seen anything yet. dust doesn't have real spais. atleast an option to stop players outside corp form joining. or alliance. Willing to bet your entire alliance on that? If you are not doing so... you should. The some of the worst thing some of you guys had done is promoted a spy to a recruiter position. wanna try saying that logically please. Just step back and watch the world burn a bit.
you make no sense you crazy basterd. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
542
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:29:00 -
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Saying that we shouldn't have a kick function would be the same as saying all members should have access to the corp wallet.
It requires the same effort from the spy - being a member.
I have nothing against metagaming, but they should have to work for it, ie gaining trust and get director role to take the corp wallet and stuff like that. Just being a member shouldn't allow you to do this much damage to a corp. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
559
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:34:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Saying that we shouldn't have a kick function would be the same as saying all members should have access to the corp wallet.
It requires the same effort from the spy - being a member.
I have nothing against metagaming, but they should have to work for it, ie gaining trust and get director role to take the corp wallet and stuff like that. Just being a member shouldn't allow you to do this much damage to a corp.
Disagree. You can do the same in EVE. A lot of high sec corps recruit, especially the mining ones. Sometimes, it just so happens that they recruit a four day old Minmatar character, who gets into the fleet, uses a Thrasher (total fitting, about 1mil isk) and blows up a few hulks worth 250m each.
That's just from being a member of the corporation.
It's being a spy - everything goes in New Eden. You just need to be thorough in recruitment and management. |
ALMIGHTY STATIUS
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:38:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Saying that we shouldn't have a kick function would be the same as saying all members should have access to the corp wallet.
It requires the same effort from the spy - being a member.
I have nothing against metagaming, but they should have to work for it, ie gaining trust and get director role to take the corp wallet and stuff like that. Just being a member shouldn't allow you to do this much damage to a corp. Disagree. You can do the same in EVE. A lot of high sec corps recruit, especially the mining ones. Sometimes, it just so happens that they recruit a four day old Minmatar character, who gets into the fleet, uses a Thrasher (total fitting, about 1mil isk) and blows up a few hulks worth 250m each. That's just from being a member of the corporation. It's being a spy - everything goes in New Eden. You just need to be thorough in recruitment and management.
250m in eve is about 5m in dust. it's a big difference when you can do 50 times that damage from just being a member. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
542
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:39:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Saying that we shouldn't have a kick function would be the same as saying all members should have access to the corp wallet.
It requires the same effort from the spy - being a member.
I have nothing against metagaming, but they should have to work for it, ie gaining trust and get director role to take the corp wallet and stuff like that. Just being a member shouldn't allow you to do this much damage to a corp. Disagree. You can do the same in EVE. A lot of high sec corps recruit, especially the mining ones. Sometimes, it just so happens that they recruit a four day old Minmatar character, who gets into the fleet, uses a Thrasher (total fitting, about 1mil isk) and blows up a few hulks worth 250m each. That's just from being a member of the corporation. It's being a spy - everything goes in New Eden. You just need to be thorough in recruitment and management. If everything goes why can't a member run off with the corp wallet? You just need to be thorough in your recruitment like you said. |
Gelan Corbaine
BetaMax. CRONOS.
168
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:14:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:
Edit: I don't play EVE, but I assume you can kick people out as soon as they do something against the corp, in this case shooting corpmates. Why can't you do that in Dust then? Yeah, you can kick him out of the corp, but he'll still be in the match and there's nothing you can do about that. You guys keep saying EVE = Dust, so surely you should be able to get rid of him as soon as he did something against the corp, in this case entering a match he shouldn't have?
In EVE kicking a player from the corp doesn't stop him from blowing up your ship. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
560
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:21:00 -
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In EVE, blowing up the ship usually takes less time than opening the corp menu, finding the player and kicking him. It's usually quicker to have another ship target him and blow him up, which is why I used to fly my battlecruiser sniper as security in a 0.6 ice mining system. |
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Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
811
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:23:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Saying that we shouldn't have a kick function would be the same as saying all members should have access to the corp wallet.
It requires the same effort from the spy - being a member.
I have nothing against metagaming, but they should have to work for it, ie gaining trust and get director role to take the corp wallet and stuff like that. Just being a member shouldn't allow you to do this much damage to a corp. Disagree. You can do the same in EVE. A lot of high sec corps recruit, especially the mining ones. Sometimes, it just so happens that they recruit a four day old Minmatar character, who gets into the fleet, uses a Thrasher (total fitting, about 1mil isk) and blows up a few hulks worth 250m each. That's just from being a member of the corporation. It's being a spy - everything goes in New Eden. You just need to be thorough in recruitment and management.
And when he does that, what happens when you turn around and kill him? Does he respawn a few meters away in the same isolated battlefield as one of 16 people who can't be replaced or added to and capable of continually attacking you, or suiciding away limited amounts of bodies that force a loss when they are depleted?
If the answer is "no," your example does not apply to this game's mechanics. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
560
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:33:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:[And when he does that, what happens when you turn around and kill him? Does he respawn a few meters away in the same isolated battlefield as one of 16 people who can't be replaced or added to and capable of continually attacking you, or suiciding away limited amounts of bodies that force a loss when they are depleted?
If the answer is "no," your example does not apply to this game's mechanics.
Something similar, actually. He can warp back to the station, come back in another thrasher, blow up another hulk or two...
Either that or come back in said thrasher and blow up the combat ship. Usually the combat ship is a sniper, so doesn't do so well at close range. Tackle it, orbit at 5k, and he's dead.
So, yes, he is able to continually attack you. Eventually the miners will say "I've had enough, I'm moving to a different corp", and he's basically dismantled a corporation with the loss of a couple of ships worth 1m each.
Edit: Sorry, come back and attack you, and destroy a limited supply of something valuable. |
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