Seriously they only took a handful of districts. And yet we see dust university get sabatoged out of the gate. Weren't they the ones. That said they were going after the university school?

Seems like a huge coincidence.

I don't know what to think? However it seems like this is exactly the tactic they would use. They have always been the ones to point out the flaws and exploit the weapons. Seems like they found a new way to grieve the community.

Lol covert aint our thing

your looking for someone else haha if we dont like you we dont need to be backhanded about it.

Though in the end your gonna feel like you got slapped around that's for sure

Wanna play a game of fronthand backhand?

Watch out Tyrell!

I'm still not buying it. The imperfect only took a few districts . Yet claim they are the best. This reqks of their trolling ways. Just come clean and give us all a laugh.

Well I mean let's say for the sake of argument is is the imperfects, what would we expect you to say?

"Oh rats, you caught us. We'll have to disguise ourselves better next time."

Seriously they only took a handful of districts. And yet we see dust university get sabatoged out of the gate. Weren't they the ones. That said they were going after the university school?

Seems like a huge coincidence.

Like any one would hire people who sabotage the ones who hired them

we refused SoTa's application. we are an "Invite only" organization.

Same goes for any corporation ffs. That is the dumbest thing i have ever heard.

That is like seeing someone killed someone in new york and arresting the first person you see.

And when they say they did not do it you say "that is exactly what the murder would say!"

Burden of truth is on the accuser not the other way around.

Nice troll btw. You should have made some fake facts and stuff to make it more believable.

Btw rumor mongering is against forum rules.

I find this all very amusing, but judging by the content, I do wonder where Goonswarm is in all this. They love this kinda stuff. Unless... Imperfects are Goons?

Well all I'm saying is that you guys defending yourself doesn't put you off the list of possible suspects, though that goes without saying.

Also it's not like the OP picked some random corp or anything. He provided some evidence and the Imperfects haven't exactly built a good relation with the rest of the community. If you are going to try to defend your corp you're going to have to provide some more convincing evidence then "We wouldn't do that sort of stuff."

Um - how about you provide evidence it was us in the first place before asking us to prove innocence? Or does that seem too impossible for you? "But Imps wanted students dead!" Yea - by our own hands. Why the hell would we give the glory to CRONOS?

QFT

Well you guys didn't want to give all the glory to CRONOS, now did you? Why else would have you guys leaked the information so easily to my guys? See where I'm going with this? I mean, you guys are smart, but I can see right through you.

Well you guys didn't want to give all the glory to CRONOS, now did you? Why else would have you guys leaked the information so easily to my guys? See where I'm going with this? I mean, you guys are smart, but I can see right through you.

What? Leaked information? The moment we found out about the sabotage I posted it on our alliance forums and we all laughed in unison.

If you're going to lie at least do so with SOME facts. Post a screen shot of us telling you guys anything maybe?

Well, guys, this is an interesting question and many have been wondering who exactly was behind this whole sabotage thing. Well I started my own investigation immediately after the incident and confirmed what many expected to be true anyway, guys. Now in the name fairness I will not be giving out individual names but it's safe the say that Negative Feedback is indeed behind this whole sabotage incident, guys, and bear in mind that this information wasn't hard to find out either. One almost gets the feeling that these guys are somehow proud of doing stuff like this.

That being said, guys, we know that NF won't be a factor when it comes to empire building and dominating the space, so when you think about it you know this makes perfect sense, man. I don't agree with this, but it's just one of the new tools NF is bringing into the table to compensate for their lack of manpower and resources.

Thats not evidence thats saying you have evidence and not presenting it. If you have evidence show it if you don't stfu.

Name names show screenshots or recordings if not its rumor mongering by any other name.

Your a alt? why would you care if you named names?

Your whole argument is a house of cards.

You got a problem with an alt? Let me fill you in *love your speech patterns* My main is BANNED. So QQ all you want - I can't post on it.

Secondly - all you said is you did research and discovered something then explained nothing of it. I can't tell if your stupid or just want attention - either way claiming to know something without proof is evidence enough your just trying to gain fame through the Imps name. You won't be first - surely won't be the last.

No need to get all worked up about it, bro. I mean my God, man, if you wanna play dumb, go ahead and play dumb, no big deal. But let's not make this into another flame war, alright?

IKR Its the Donald trump Obama birth certificate play

I have a ton of evidence!- trump

lets see it-media

Obamas birth certificate i have been doing allot of research and found some surprising things!- trump

What things?- media

Im Donald trump!- trump

you ever going to get to the things?-media

DERP!-trump

Well, Ton, we both know for a fact what's going on here and I think the general player base also has a pretty good clue on what's going on here so even I came out with the evidence guns blazing, bro, I don't think it would change anything else but make me look bad for naming and shaming some nice guys who made a bad judgement call in a video game.

You're claiming Imps to be a part of something that we were not then backing it with information you refuse to share.

LOL Sure, I'll calm down. You're pretty much right about this turning into a flame war- you're not anyone important anyways. You've been getting smeared in every thread you post in - why should I be surprised you're keeping up your high loss record here?

Why do I people keep thinking I'm a Cicero or something! I'm not here to "win" or "lose" conversations you know that much as well, buddy. Everyone who knows me, knows that I just like to share the events and facts and perspectives on the things happening around in the world that is known as New Eden. Now if you don't like that or want to question my views, that's all well and dandy, no big deal, but let's not get personal here.

Well, Ton, we both know for a fact what's going on here and I think the general player base also has a pretty good clue on what's going on here so even I came out with the evidence guns blazing, bro, I don't think it would change anything else but make me look bad for naming and shaming some nice guys who made a bad judgement call in a video game.

Also-DERP!

All this talk and posting and you've still yet to share evidence? I wonder why?

Well unlike you, bro, I'm acting perfectly professionally here, and I don't plan to get my account banned anytime soon either. Cause let me tell you something right now. Naming and shaming is not only against the forum rules, but it's also unethical at best and we both know I'm not going to smear the names of a couple of nice guys just because they made a bad judgement call while playing a video game.

Well unlike you, bro, I'm acting perfectly professionally here, and I don't plan to get my account banned anytime soon either. Cause let me tell you something right now. Naming and shaming is not only against the forum rules, but it's also unethical at best and we both know I'm not going to smear the names of a couple of nice guys just because they made a bad judgement call while playing a video game.

This thread is awesome iv been stuck in Rl for the last two days can someone give me the Tl;dr or is someone just scapegoating the imps :-)

I Miss you steady! :(

If you create a thread to simply demean or insult someone - that's a bannable offense. The info you claim to have - not bannable. It's not the same to give someone away in there plot as it is to call them out on there own thread. So now that you have that **** poor excuse gone - give us the info or stfu?

I mean, why would I need to give you the info? I mean you guys leaked it! That or your secrecy policy is poor at best, SoTa. Now I've said already that the general player base pretty much realised what's going on here already, so giving out the evidence wouldn't change anything else other than make me look like the bad guy here, which I'm not.

I mean let's look at the patterns here, and you don't have to be a rocket scientist here. There have been a few cases already where a recent recruit takes the place of the more established people in the corp in a corp battle and tries to ransom the corp. Simple but effective plan. Only thing it requires is to have alts in every corp. Now I've got your guys on record saying that they've got oodles of alts in every corp! Who better than NF to perform this hoax? Now that combined with the fact that this indeed fits the Goon MO and we've got a good pretty good case even without me providing the evidence that you guys leaked.

Oh, right, because all of a sudden you've spoken to every member of DUST and now know exactly what they are all thinking..

Ric - you refuse to show evidence and now side dodge using, "But we all know it's true!" I expect that level of denial from a middle schooler.

I am saddened by you right now. Do you really need fame so badly you came crawling to us?

I Miss you steady! :( You'll always be my bro!

Well first of all if I did want to be famous through playing this video game, bro, I'd be playing with my real name. Or did you think Ric Barlom is my real name? And to answer your question if I talked with every member of Dust to know what's going on, well let me put it this way: I'm a community man, a real people person and a nice guy so I guess you could say I've got a pretty good sense of what's the general vibe throughout the player base.

And yet another dodge so you don't have to admit you have no evidence and are basing everything on assumptions you read on the forums.

:) Spies are for more then sabotage scrub. I'm glad you want E-fame through us but try to get it in game and not through your fail faking of knowledge.

If you say so. I'm gonna let the general player base sum up the numbers and come to their own conclusions.

Why don't you go to pakistan and ask everyone there if they will give america enough to set up a relief fund for our poor. You're doing the same **** here. You know Imps are unloved and using that to say whatever you like and letting the 'community' decide if it's true or not rather then using cold hard facts.

I had somewhat respect for you before because of your headstrong attitude and willingness to just hit a topic straight on - but now I see you're just another scrub boot licking Imps for fame.

You either have facts you can share or don't - you haven't a single reason to hide behind as me and two ton shared with you the ACTUAL rules of the forums you didn't seem to know.

Are you going to make a case or do you plan to keep repeating the same thing over and over again?

Right back at you?

I didn't realize I was making any accusations at all? I thought you were the one claiming to have information and details?

Are you stupid or just like abuse?

Give up the details or admit you lied - pretty straight forward for a guy like you.

But... you haven't said anything... anyone can claim anything they want - without proof it's obvious bull. I know you were raised under a rock but come on.

Thanks for trying though. Reminds me when you were saying your alliance was better then to AFK farm and how hard you'd come down on them if they did... then your alliance leaders admit to AFK farming and you dropped the subject completely.

Just hold on a minute right there, dude! We had ONE leader admitting AFK farming and you know it as well as I do that I dropped the hammer on her!

LOL Like hell you did - she laughed at you in IRC and continues to do as she pleases.

And you continuing to avoid showing proof is amazing and helpful to me. :)

Well you know as well as I do, that I don't do that IRC stuff. I had a conversation with her, I'm not her daddy and I'm not gonna tell her what she can or cannot do, but the bottom line is that I think it's a ****** up thing to do nevertheless. Another ****** up thing to do, is to start talking crap about someone's mom over a video game conversation.

Get used to it - at least mom jokes are harmless. If you have an emotional problem I suggest you stop reading the forums and stop trying to play daddy with everyone.

You got owned by your own leaders and can't even admit to that - why should we trust you have any info at all? Lmao.

Just hold on a minute right there, dude! We had ONE leader admitting AFK farming and you know it as well as I do that I dropped the hammer on her!

Well here's the thing, dude, and let me be perfectly clear with you here so that even you can understand where I'm coming from here. I'm not asking anyone to trust me, but I did paint a picture for everyone to see, which by the way is completely objective, and I let everyone draw their own conclusions. If that means you guys are gonna get all worked about it and start talking ****, well I'm sorry about that cause I didn't mean to start a flame war. That being said I'm not gonna dumb myself down just because a few people might get their uptight assholes hurt over my insights on the happenings on Dust 514!

I have proof that it was not NF behind all this it was infact PRO who also secretly control the world and have atleast 1000alts in each corp and take a daily payment of 1million AUR from CCP to stop them from destroying DUST.

However I will not share this proof due to my ethics but I am a nice guy so its obviously true and therefore evidence is not needed.

Are you stupid? You claimed to have facts and evidence and we're asking for it? Where is all this talk coming from? how many times do you need to lie and cover up before you stop trying?

Really dude, you claim to be straight forward but all your doing is side stepping over and over. You have no facts - all you have is an opinion that you want everyone to agree with.

Fail more please?

I know you guys are asking for it. Well you know, you're not gonna get it and that's the bottom line! How's that straight forward for you?

"I have no facts and will pretend to have them." Yup - that's straight forward. Thanks for the answer.

If you say so. I'm still gonna let the general player base draw their own conclusions and you know that as well.

Free publicity <3 . Regnum fancy a pr job since you can't stop talking about us?

This Grief University isn't the IMP's style, they got enough strong players that they simply don't require to use such tactics, it could e even considered a more costly choice to them.

Alright everyone, this has gotten totally out of hand so I had to upload the tapes, guys, and keep in mind that it was you who forced my hand. That being said, I take no responsibility of the ramifications of this revelation:

Let me present the evidence.

Alright everyone, this has gotten totally out of hand so I had to upload the tapes, guys, and keep in mind that it was you who forced my hand. That being said, I take no responsibility of the ramifications of this revelation:

Let me present the evidence.

EDIT'd

^ Video doesn't work but it says what it is lol.

well ric? People not of Imps are calling you out now. Where's this proof of yours? Was it all lies and bullshit like I knew from the start?

So this is Forum PvP, huh? Neat. DUST gets more like EVE every day hour.

Nothing too serious, bro. Was just busting people's balls a little bit so to speak.

It would be a waste of time and resources for them to do this when they can just use brute force. More likely than not, it was a smaller, weak corp.

Well, guys, this is an interesting question and many have been wondering who exactly was behind this whole sabotage thing. Well I started my own investigation immediately after the incident and confirmed what many expected to be true anyway, guys. Now in the name fairness I will not be giving out individual names but it's safe the say that Negative Feedback is indeed behind this whole sabotage incident, guys, and bear in mind that this information wasn't hard to find out either. One almost gets the feeling that these guys are somehow proud of doing stuff like this.

That being said, guys, we know that NF won't be a factor when it comes to empire building and dominating the space, so when you think about it you know this makes perfect sense, man. I don't agree with this, but it's just one of the new tools NF is bringing into the table to compensate for their lack of manpower and resources.

Dunno if serious or just plain sad. Get good, stop the QQ, HTFU, etc.

Also, I'm unbanned finally.

lol the GIMPS are just too stupid to pull something like this off. They barely are even aible to send me proper hatemails for destroying their tanks.

Did you guys send hate mail to yourselves when you OB'd your own guys? :3

Nah ive got hatemail from half of your team. Seems ive did my job right. Go and search new tankers cause they are soo bad. Espacially the moment when a bloas crushed one of your tankers while he was waiting for it. So cute. Hope you guys stroke him regulary or hes going to be mad.

So guys, ever since I posted in this thread, I've been receiving a lot of negative feedback both in game and in these forums

I believe you
+1

lol the GIMPS are just too stupid to pull something like this off. They barely are even aible to send me proper hatemails for destroying their tanks.

lol the GIMPS are just too stupid to pull something like this off. They barely are even aible to send me proper hatemails for destroying their tanks.