DUST Search - Militia Warfare game mode?

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Buwaro Draemon wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

No. Because then everybody would play that; nobody would spend any money on boosters or items. This is a bad economic decision for CCP.

Are you stupid or do you suck at reading?

I said that the rewards should be lower than average pub matches. Say if you earn 200k ISK per pub match, then in Miltia Warfare you should earn 90k-100k.

Not sure on the skill part but people will keep buying boosters to help earn SP faster like in any other match.

Plus I doubt that everyone will start playing this mode
Wanna know why?

Because this an MMO and people like to show off that they have better gear than the next guy in MMOs. That is just how MMOs are.

Also it will be a great deal for new players to keep trying out suits withouth getting stumped by using the militia variant until they decide where to dump SP on.

"Hmm I just finished the academy and I haven't used any of my SP. Maybe I should buy the militia suits and see which one I like the most." "But wait using militia in pub matches will just mean easy kills for the beta vets and their high-end proto gear." "OHH lookey. A militia warfare mode. I can test out the suits tgere without getting stepped on"

That's how I see it. Even in the academy newberries won't get the training necessary to go against us and our gear. By adding this game mode they at least can see our playstyle and see which corps are the most dangerous to go against.

The thing you don't seem to understand, is that; what is the point of getting better gear when there is a game mode where everyone is equal? All the competitive Corps would go there and compete against one another. So that their items will all be equal; skill would be more defining. Thing is, those are some of the people that spend the most money. Personally, I would never leave that game mode. I would be defined mire by the skill I possess than the stuff I have. Would completely kill any motivation to spend any motivation to spend money. It would kill the motivation to get better stuff.

Personally, I like the idea. Though, I realize that CCP would start getting desperate to get people to spend money. If they focused more on cosmetic things, rather than skill based items, they would be able to do this and get more money.

Also, don't call people stupid just because they disagree with you. It makes you seem crude and makes enemies.

Peace,


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Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 20	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:34:00 - [1] - Quote So the skill respec will happen eventually and when it does we'll see more proto guys in the field than now. My concern is not me. Because most of this proto users don't know how to use their gear and end up getting slaughtered by other beta vets and are easy ISK. My concern is the Newberries. Seeing now that they have an academy to practice and learn to shoot in but what happens when they reach the WP cap for the academy? Most of them won't be ready to compete against the beta vets and their powerful gear. So I had an idea. Add "Militia Warfare" a game mode only limited by ambush and only using militia gear. Player created militia gear will also be accepted. Since it will only be militia gear on the frontlines in "Militia Warfare" only tactics will count since no player will out match you by gear. This will be a great add-on because it will help newberries get good gear without the endless slaughter in pub matches. I also like seeing this as a substitute to PvE because you can grind ISK here (but since you'll only be killing militia gear the ISK payout won't be as high as in normal pub matches) This is an idea tgat occurred to me last night before I went to sleep I have doubts that you will agree with me but I thought I might share it here
Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 21	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:52:00 - [2] - Quote Vsor wrote: Xender17 wrote: I don't think your should gain ISK or SP from it though... No risk but a reward? No. You can play any game-type with a free suit and get isk + sp. The purpose of this idea is so new players can get sp without constantly dying to prototype gear. Exactly. And like I said, the earnings won't be as high as normal pub matches.
Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 21	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:55:00 - [3] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Since not all weapons are available as MLT variants it should be STD level warfare, but otherwise this a solid suggestion that actually has been posted a couple of times already. That doesn't make it any less relevant though. That's the thing. This is not a place to test out how weapons will work. Just an easier verion of pub matches. If trying out new gear is a concern of yours you'll be happy to hear that CCP will add a weapons lab (shooting range) to test out gear in the far future
Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 21	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:03:00 - [4] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Because then everybody would play that; nobody would spend any money on boosters or items. This is a bad economic decision for CCP. Are you stupid or do you suck at reading? I said that the rewards should be lower than average pub matches. Say if you earn 200k ISK per pub match, then in Miltia Warfare you should earn 90k-100k. Not sure on the skill part but people will keep buying boosters to help earn SP faster like in any other match. Plus I doubt that everyone will start playing this mode Wanna know why? Because this an MMO and people like to show off that they have better gear than the next guy in MMOs. That is just how MMOs are. Also it will be a great deal for new players to keep trying out suits withouth getting stumped by using the militia variant until they decide where to dump SP on. "Hmm I just finished the academy and I haven't used any of my SP. Maybe I should buy the militia suits and see which one I like the most." "But wait using militia in pub matches will just mean easy kills for the beta vets and their high-end proto gear." "OHH lookey. A militia warfare mode. I can test out the suits tgere without getting stepped on" That's how I see it. Even in the academy newberries won't get the training necessary to go against us and our gear. By adding this game mode they at least can see our playstyle and see which corps are the most dangerous to go against.
Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 24	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:45:00 - [5] - Quote Alot of people are agreeing with me? O.o I expected mlre like "I am nutz" or "Go suck it looser" But I am liking this replies! :D If one you would be so kind and copy and paste this thread to the CPM Chamber area it will make this thread heard off even more. Since I am on a mobile device my copying and pasting options are limited to none. So if anyone would be so kind to do it
Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 24	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:54:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Because then everybody would play that; nobody would spend any money on boosters or items. This is a bad economic decision for CCP. Are you stupid or do you suck at reading? I said that the rewards should be lower than average pub matches. Say if you earn 200k ISK per pub match, then in Miltia Warfare you should earn 90k-100k. Not sure on the skill part but people will keep buying boosters to help earn SP faster like in any other match. Plus I doubt that everyone will start playing this mode Wanna know why? Because this an MMO and people like to show off that they have better gear than the next guy in MMOs. That is just how MMOs are. Also it will be a great deal for new players to keep trying out suits withouth getting stumped by using the militia variant until they decide where to dump SP on. "Hmm I just finished the academy and I haven't used any of my SP. Maybe I should buy the militia suits and see which one I like the most." "But wait using militia in pub matches will just mean easy kills for the beta vets and their high-end proto gear." "OHH lookey. A militia warfare mode. I can test out the suits tgere without getting stepped on" That's how I see it. Even in the academy newberries won't get the training necessary to go against us and our gear. By adding this game mode they at least can see our playstyle and see which corps are the most dangerous to go against. The thing you don't seem to understand, is that; what is the point of getting better gear when there is a game mode where everyone is equal? All the competitive Corps would go there and compete against one another. So that their items will all be equal; skill would be more defining. Thing is, those are some of the people that spend the most money. Personally, I would never leave that game mode. I would be defined mire by the skill I possess than the stuff I have. Would completely kill any motivation to spend any motivation to spend money. It would kill the motivation to get better stuff. Personally, I like the idea. Though, I realize that CCP would start getting desperate to get people to spend money. If they focused more on cosmetic things, rather than skill based items, they would be able to do this and get more money. Also, don't call people stupid just because they disagree with you. It makes you seem crude and makes enemies. Peace, I didn't meant it in a hard way. But for tge way he said it it looked like he just read the surface of this thread and commented. Also I see your point but also (like I said) this could be a coolsubstitute untill PvE arrives. Once PvE is here I would be fine by CCP taking out this game mode. And also this is an MMO. Yes everyone would be equal in gear and that is what MMO players dislike the most. MMO players will always try to show off the new, powerful thing they have. And rewards would be WAY lower than usual so let's say if you want to make a million ISK: In PUB matches it might take you 3-5 games to make a million ISK. In Militia Warfare it coukd take you 6-10 games just to get a million. Knowing that adding drones is in the near future (12 months from now) tgis game mode might only see the day light for 2-5 months. Also PC will be taking place and people want to earn ISK fast so Militia Warfare is not a choice to earn ISK the fastest way.
Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 27	Posted - 2013.05.17 01:01:00 - [7] - Quote I'm sorry if I offended him.
Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 28	Posted - 2013.05.17 04:07:00 - [8] - Quote Swear-n-SC wrote: Sounds like a good idea. I think using STD and Miltia would work out real good. Does CCP have Miltia gear for all of the STD? No. But, you could get a feel for how something will work with some of the Miltia. +1 and bump. Swear Maybe it coukd be a STD game mode only? Maybe. But then the rewards will have to be increased rather than decrease. But if CCP catches an eye on this thread I am sure they will work something out.