DUST Search - Adding FF Penalties First, to balance FF

Nova Knife wrote:

Food for thought : Do we really need penalties?

Griefer alts are an obvious concern, and should be against the rules.

Other than that though... Outside of the 'noob academy matches' Do we really need mechanics within the game acting as penalties? Sure, it sucks to lose fancy stuff to teammates... but that street flows both ways. I very much like the idea of having a 'rival' I've met in the past, being put on my own team and still being able to carry out sweet vengeance. Or to see my wallet flash in the war barge along with getting a mail saying "This is a down payment. Kill your buddies and help us win... and we'll pay you even more"

There's always going to be a few bad apples whenever FF is enabled. But I am more optimistic. I think the more freedom players have with something like this... the more exciting it can get. Let players create and impose the penalties within the social dynamic of the game itself. Deal with people who do nothing be grief accordingly.

I do not want to see things like vote to kick implemented (Because VTK can be used for more annoying griefing than teamkilling)

Stuff like ISK penalties are possible options... but I'd prefer to see other players dishing out the justice, than some NPC system.

I'm curious what you folks think.

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Cynabi D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2013.05.18 01:10:00 - [1] - Quote I think you need to be exceedingly cautious with bounties in Dust. I can certainly see people abusing this to see how much of a price they can get on their heads, or using this as a system to lone-wolf it against both teams in the game. Secondly, why does the other team need a bounty to kill you? If I see that red chevron in the game, I'm gonna shoot whether or not there's a skull in the center. This means the point of bounties is to encourage fighting within your own team.. which also seems to be the reason why the bounty was placed in the first place. Nova Knife wrote: Food for thought : Do we really need penalties? Griefer alts are an obvious concern, and should be against the rules. Other than that though... Outside of the 'noob academy matches' Do we really need mechanics within the game acting as penalties? Sure, it sucks to lose fancy stuff to teammates... but that street flows both ways. I very much like the idea of having a 'rival' I've met in the past, being put on my own team and still being able to carry out sweet vengeance. Or to see my wallet flash in the war barge along with getting a mail saying "This is a down payment. Kill your buddies and help us win... and we'll pay you even more" There's always going to be a few bad apples whenever FF is enabled. But I am more optimistic. I think the more freedom players have with something like this... the more exciting it can get. Let players create and impose the penalties within the social dynamic of the game itself. Deal with people who do nothing be grief accordingly. I do not want to see things like vote to kick implemented (Because VTK can be used for more annoying griefing than teamkilling) Stuff like ISK penalties are possible options... but I'd prefer to see other players dishing out the justice, than some NPC system. I'm curious what you folks think. When you put it this way... I'm actualy really liking the idea of bounties able to be placed BY OTHER PLAYERS. Difficult PC match? Drop a bounty on the other teams top player and watch them all squirm over whether or not to slay him for the bonus, or keep him around to win the match.