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137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 32	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:51:00 - [1] - Quote My review may be a little biased, but I will try to be as neutral about this as possible. Dust 514 is a game in which you are a cloned mercenary payed by the highest bidder whether it is an entire faction owned by NPCs, or a Corporation or Alliance run by players, to fight on the planet-side of EVE and assume control of the planet. In this, you start out with 500,000 skill points and four free militia suits which are infinite, but highly unwieldly and not nearly as efficient and as deadly as the prototype variants. The four variants are Militia (MLT), Standard (STD), Advanced (ADV), and Prototype (PRT).. In order to use STD, ADV, and PRT, you must get your skills for the corresponding item to I, III, V in that order. This process can take a while, but the reward is great, in my opinion. As you travel up the ladder of skill points, you fight a very hard battle. But within one million skill points I was already dominating the field in a Semi Standard-advanced Assault suit using an advanced weapon with standard suit modules. - To say that you stand no chance against a prototype suit in a lower tiered suit is completely false. Granted, the challenge is greater but not impossible. The feeling of reward that you get when you've killed someone who you know is running a proto suit with proto weaponry while you're in a much lower tier with much lower skill points is amazing. Knowing you cost them a good 100k ISK (Game currency) for their one suit, whereas your suit only cost 10k ISK. The game has four modes which are similar. Ambush (50 Kill Team Deathmatch), Ambush OMS (80 Kill Team Deathmatch with turret and module support), Skirmish (King of the Kill, with 3-5 points to control, or you can wipe out the enemy teams 150 clones (whichever comes first). and Domination (Skirmish with one control point. Having played a Heavy and an Assault both, I can say that this game does offer some level of customization where you can completely specialize into one weapon, or specialize somewhat in a few weapons or just become able to use everything. The latter isn't recommended, but that's the beauty of it. The choice is yours. Soon to come, the battles you fight will decide the sovereignty of solar systems in EVE. EVE and DUST will form a mutual symbiosis where one will depend on the other in a healthy way. The Economies of both games will be merged, and CCP talks of more integration between both games. But that's not what makes the game great. It is true that the game has many flaws, you can get stuck on some surfaces, the loading screen will fail to initialize into battle, there are balance issues, sometimes things will not render completely, and the controls are a little sluggish as well as an aim assist issue. The range specialization of weapons was completely dropped and I agree with this move as it made MANY other weapons worthless at any game mode unless you were able to draw your opponent around the corner. Which if you waited for, was a bad idea as you will be flanked, and the person you hoped to kill will just get better positioning on you. Thus, the range skills were removed, making the game once again currently balanced for all weapons to a much better degree than what it had previously been. What is truly wonderful about this game is that all content releases are completely -FREE-. If ever there is a new map pack, or new gear or skills to use it will always be free. You will never need to pay to win in this game. Pay to win dictates that you must pay to use gear which is advantageous over the other players which in essence is not true in this game. You can pay for items which are of the standard grade that never run out. But you will never find proto gear that you have to pay for that will never run out. There are weapons that cost Aurum (ingame real money currency) that allow you to use suits and weapons earlier if you lack the skills for their higher tiered variants, but this too, in time you are garunteed to attain. Whereas in Pay to Win, you MUST pay to ACHIEVE the desired result. Once again, as you're skilling up going match after match with similar load outs, you, as the adaptive player, become better and better with that load out and as you get better, so does your gear. I feel that this game, considering its origins, is very well put together and puts an adaptive learning curve for seasoned and new FPS players alike that challenges themselves to push their skills just a little further with every match. I find this game quite entertaining, and I look forward to the many, many content patches that will follow in the years to come with DUST 514. PS, when EVE started, many players complained about how it played, back in the day in 2003, records were set for 5000 players on a single shard... Now, after many, many content patches, EVE today reaches 60,000 players on a single shard. If history repeats, DUST will be one of the bigger competing FPS's in the future which will receive a PS4 update.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 511	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:53:00 - [2] - Quote This reads more like a history and description of the game rather than a review, with a conclusion at the end.
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 32	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:55:00 - [3] - Quote Laheon wrote: This reads more like a history and description of the game rather than a review, with a conclusion at the end. It was posted on metacritic, more of a review for people who haven't played the game yet.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2302	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:58:00 - [4] - Quote Very good review. Thank you. Get ready to be trolled.
ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 138	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:59:00 - [5] - Quote Not a bad review, I like your enthusiasm. However, your comments on the new ranges being better than chromosome are false.
LeCuch Red Star. EoN. 112	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:04:00 - [6] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Not a bad review, I like your enthusiasm. However, your comments on the new ranges being better than chromosome are false. $5 you were an AR or laser guy? They are better. The ranges are balanced like they should be no more 100 meter AR kills in like half a second
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:09:00 - [7] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Not a bad review, I like your enthusiasm. However, your comments on the new ranges being better than chromosome are false. How can an opinion be false?
ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 138	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:12:00 - [8] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Not a bad review, I like your enthusiasm. However, your comments on the new ranges being better than chromosome are false. How can an opinion be false? A joke obviously. However, the ranges are absolute garbage in this game... sure its only 'my opinion' but damn I dunno how people can stand it. Nova Knives and ARs (sans the TAC) have the same optimal range... how is that even 'balanced'??
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:19:00 - [9] - Quote It is balanced (EDIT): for shotguns and Heavies. (EDIT) So that they might have an equal chance in the field. Having played an assault and a Heavy. The laughable range of the heavy Pre-Range-nerf was just stupid. The dispersion of the heavy machine gun at the same range as the assault rifle, left the HMG being widely useless except for extreme close quarters combat, hoping that someone would not be sniping you with ARs from B while you were at A. It was your task, as the Heavy to either hide the entire match or jump from cover to cover to try and gain ground on the assault. All the while, your armor and shields were peeled away like the skin of a potato until you finally gained ground to engage said assault. By the time you get there, you've got about 75% armor and are ripe for eating by enemy AR fire. That is, assuming the AR user didn't just kite you. Let's not even talk about how difficult it was for shotgun users. I do agree though that bullets shouldn't just Disappear. They should have diminishing returns of damage for every x amount of meters. It is unrealistic to have bullets disappear completely. but the diminishing returns should be very high (after you reach your max range, your damage gets like dropped by 50-75% every set interval of meters.)
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 745	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:20:00 - [10] - Quote Eh... Uninspired game modes, lack of balance in weapons, lack of player market, lack of command structure in game, lack of MCC command mode, grindfest top heavy skill tree limiting exploration and branching into roles... Not to mention the plague of bugs and other issues like a extremely poor controls and hit detection as well as hazy graphics and other core elements missing... I really wonder if I am the only one who sees the blatant problems and flaws for what they are. I do not judge games pn promise or potential, I judge on result. And currently DUST is pretty much a shinyied up chrome turd. Has fluff and fun to draw people in but at its core is just poop. Come at me fanboiz

Chris F2112 187. Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:21:00 - [11] - Quote LeCuch wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Not a bad review, I like your enthusiasm. However, your comments on the new ranges being better than chromosome are false. $5 you were an AR or laser guy? They are better. The ranges are balanced like they should be no more 100 meter AR kills in like half a second That's a winning bet regardless of what he was talking about in Chromosome. I swear, at least 80% of the playerbase was using those two weapons.
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:24:00 - [12] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Eh... Uninspired game modes, lack of balance in weapons, lack of player market, lack of command structure in game, lack of MCC command mode, grindfest top heavy skill tree limiting exploration and branching into roles... Not to mention the plague of bugs and other issues like a extremely poor controls and hit detection as well as hazy graphics and other core elements missing... I really wonder if I am the only one who sees the blatant problems and flaws for what they are. I do not judge games pn promise or potential, I judge on result. And currently DUST is pretty much a shinyied up chrome turd. Has fluff and fun to draw people in but at its core is just poop. Come at me fanboiz Aww, you're such a cute little troll. Too bad you're not gonna get any food from me :) pat pat pat
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 745	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:35:00 - [13] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Eh... Uninspired game modes, lack of balance in weapons, lack of player market, lack of command structure in game, lack of MCC command mode, grindfest top heavy skill tree limiting exploration and branching into roles... Not to mention the plague of bugs and other issues like a extremely poor controls and hit detection as well as hazy graphics and other core elements missing... I really wonder if I am the only one who sees the blatant problems and flaws for what they are. I do not judge games pn promise or potential, I judge on result. And currently DUST is pretty much a shinyied up chrome turd. Has fluff and fun to draw people in but at its core is just poop. Come at me fanboiz Aww, you're such a cute little troll. Too bad you're not gonna get any food from me :) pat pat pat Not even trolling. Just being honest. Or are you saying these things are all there and DUST is awesome? I would love it if DUST had even half that stuff but it doesn't and therefore I will not lie that I find the game distasteul and boring.
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:38:00 - [14] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Come at me fanboiz Not even trolling. Troll
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 745	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:45:00 - [15] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Come at me fanboiz Not even trolling. Troll More like predicting exactly this type of response to my post Can't handle the truth in my original post so fanboys would normally resort to strawman attacks and circular logic and/of CCP meat cigar smoking, ad nauseum. Predicted it and it validated itself within a minute. Thank you for participating in proving my point. o7
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 94	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:45:00 - [16] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Eh... Uninspired game modes, lack of balance in weapons, lack of player market, lack of command structure in game, lack of MCC command mode, grindfest top heavy skill tree limiting exploration and branching into roles... Not to mention the plague of bugs and other issues like a extremely poor controls and hit detection as well as hazy graphics and other core elements missing... I really wonder if I am the only one who sees the blatant problems and flaws for what they are. I do not judge games pn promise or potential, I judge on result. And currently DUST is pretty much a shinyied up chrome turd. Has fluff and fun to draw people in but at its core is just poop. Come at me fanboiz Aww, you're such a cute little troll. Too bad you're not gonna get any food from me :) pat pat pat Not even trolling. Just being honest. Or are you saying these things are all there and DUST is awesome? I would love it if DUST had even half that stuff but it doesn't and therefore I will not lie that I find the game distasteul and boring. If you hate it so much, why even play? Or are you so masochistic that you're turned on by playing Dust?
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 745	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:56:00 - [17] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Eh... Uninspired game modes, lack of balance in weapons, lack of player market, lack of command structure in game, lack of MCC command mode, grindfest top heavy skill tree limiting exploration and branching into roles... Not to mention the plague of bugs and other issues like a extremely poor controls and hit detection as well as hazy graphics and other core elements missing... I really wonder if I am the only one who sees the blatant problems and flaws for what they are. I do not judge games pn promise or potential, I judge on result. And currently DUST is pretty much a shinyied up chrome turd. Has fluff and fun to draw people in but at its core is just poop. Come at me fanboiz Aww, you're such a cute little troll. Too bad you're not gonna get any food from me :) pat pat pat Not even trolling. Just being honest. Or are you saying these things are all there and DUST is awesome? I would love it if DUST had even half that stuff but it doesn't and therefore I will not lie that I find the game distasteul and boring. If you hate it so much, why even play? Or are you so masochistic that you're turned on by playing Dust? That's the point, I don't. And neither do any of my friends who I told to try it... Problem there? I may not play actively but that doesn't mean I don't care and hope for a better game. I continually try to give feedback and support those I agree with, only to have them trampled on by those who follow CCP's pied piper. I want this game to reach its maximum potential and the direction it is going and state it is in don't reflect a smart way to do so. I realize that being realistic and calling it as I see it is the best way for the game to improve, and not blind admiration of CCP. Currently I am putting together a large list of feedback on how to improve this game immensely and at its core but I fear it will simply be stamped down by fanboys... So the only thing I can do is continue to fight for a better DUST on these forums.
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:56:00 - [18] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Come at me fanboiz Not even trolling. Troll More like predicting exactly this type of response to my post Can't handle the truth in my original post so fanboys would normally resort to strawman attacks and circular logic and/of CCP meat cigar smoking, ad nauseum. Predicted it and it validated itself within a minute. Thank you for participating in proving my point. o7 Hardly. Whatever my response is, there will be some way that you can twist it around and make excuses for yourself on why the game is flawed. In my OP I pointed out the flaws that are commonly spoke of and acknowledged them. What's the point of addressing someone who plays still plays the game and comes to the forums in a constructive Review thread just for the sake of disputing why they dislike the game when instead that they should stop playing? The job of a critic is to address the negative and positive notes of a product. Whereas you only addressed the negative points and seemingly dared anyone to argue with you. You are a troll. This point is proven and closed.
Frontline Medic On-Sight-Response 16	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:57:00 - [19] - Quote good stuff op.
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:58:00 - [20] - Quote If you want to support the game, you should know that to really help something grow, you should compliment it on it's strengths as well as discuss it's weaknesses. If you criticize something for its faults, it will be stunted and cease to grow for excessive discouragement. Try admiring it's strengths AS much as you criticize its weaknesses. If you truly wish the game to be better, you would agree with this notion.

lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:00:00 - [21] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Eh... Uninspired game modes, lack of balance in weapons, lack of player market, lack of command structure in game, lack of MCC command mode, grindfest top heavy skill tree limiting exploration and branching into roles... Not to mention the plague of bugs and other issues like a extremely poor controls and hit detection as well as hazy graphics and other core elements missing... I really wonder if I am the only one who sees the blatant problems and flaws for what they are. I do not judge games pn promise or potential, I judge on result. And currently DUST is pretty much a shinyied up chrome turd. Has fluff and fun to draw people in but at its core is just poop. Come at me fanboiz A better review at like 1/10 of the length. Impressive.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 746	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:03:00 - [22] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Come at me fanboiz Not even trolling. Troll More like predicting exactly this type of response to my post Can't handle the truth in my original post so fanboys would normally resort to strawman attacks and circular logic and/of CCP meat cigar smoking, ad nauseum. Predicted it and it validated itself within a minute. Thank you for participating in proving my point. o7 Hardly. Whatever my response is, there will be some way that you can twist it around and make excuses for yourself on why the game is flawed. In my OP I pointed out the flaws that are commonly spoke of and acknowledged them. What's the point of addressing someone who plays still plays the game and comes to the forums in a constructive Review thread just for the sake of disputing why they dislike the game when instead that they should stop playing? The job of a critic is to address the negative and positive notes of a product. Whereas you only addressed the negative points and seemingly dared anyone to argue with you. You are a troll. This point is proven and closed. The problem there is that my points are true and not up for discussion. No amount of pontification or promises makes the features absent from the game appear magically. No, I will not twist your words against yourself. Your review gives DUST a lot of credit and very little real look at its flaws. You don't get better by focusing on how good you did something but rather by focusing on what you did wrong. I said it before and I will state it again. DUST has tremendous potential but very little actualization of said potential. I want to point out these weak spots and hopefully bring the devs around to working on it and makin DUST a better experience for all. So no, I am not a troll, but a realist.
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:03:00 - [23] - Quote If by better you mean shorter, not as detailed and not telling of the game's strengths - sure. I've also noticed that COD fanboys don't like Dust too much :(
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:06:00 - [24] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: The problem there is that my points are true and not up for discussion. No amount of pontification or promises makes the features absent from the game appear magically. No, I will not twist your words against yourself. Your review gives DUST a lot of credit and very little real look at its flaws. You don't get better by focusing on how good you did something but rather by focusing on what you did wrong. I said it before and I will state it again. DUST has tremendous potential but very little actualization of said potential. I want to point out these weak spots and hopefully bring the devs around to working on it and makin DUST a better experience for all. So no, I am not a troll, but a realist. In your third paragraph, that is where our opinions differ. I can't see how pointing out both the good -and- the bad could make the game any worse. But, this review was intended for people who have not yet played the game. Not for the developers. Perhaps, you should take your review to the Feedback Forum so the Devs can take a look at it to address it?
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:06:00 - [25] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: If by better you mean shorter, not as detailed and not telling of the game's strengths - sure. I've also noticed that COD fanboys don't like Dust too much :( What strengths? And I don't even play COD, wtf? It's really pathetic how every CCP **** rider tries to paint all negative opinions as COD fanboyism. Just shows their insecurity about the quality of this game.
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 72	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:09:00 - [26] - Quote DUST community: Praise the game" lol great review dude!" bad review for obvious reason" STFU HTFU, this guy has no idea what hes talking about." nerd rage
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 746	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:09:00 - [27] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: If by better you mean shorter, not as detailed and not telling of the game's strengths - sure. I've also noticed that COD fanboys don't like Dust too much :( Games strengths - expanding roster of weaponry - skill system with depth (hugely flawed but whatever, giving some credit) - planetary conquest provides meta to the game - in game economy makes death more meaningful But aside from that all I can realistically provide as strengths are either half finished, badly coded, poorly implemented, or still just a promise. And I don't judge on promises. Not all negative. Once more, realist.
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:10:00 - [28] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: If by better you mean shorter, not as detailed and not telling of the game's strengths - sure. I've also noticed that COD fanboys don't like Dust too much :( What strengths? And I don't even play COD, wtf? It's really pathetic how every CCP **** rider tries to paint all negative opinions as COD fanboyism. Just shows their insecurity about the quality of this game. "What Strengths" Evidently you didn't read my OP. And I never said you were a COD fanboy... but, if the shoe fits, wear it. My remark about COD Fanboys was a point of topic of whether you agreed or not. But apparently - you jumped to conclusions :(
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:13:00 - [29] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: If by better you mean shorter, not as detailed and not telling of the game's strengths - sure. I've also noticed that COD fanboys don't like Dust too much :( Games strengths - expanding roster of weaponry - skill system with depth (hugely flawed but whatever, giving some credit) - planetary conquest provides meta to the game - in game economy makes death more meaningful But aside from that all I can realistically provide as strengths are either half finished, badly coded, poorly implemented, or still just a promise. And I don't judge on promises. Not all negative. Once more, realist. I think you forgot to mention free content packs, fully customizable vehicle load out (which is similar to BF3, but not as detailed), and completely customizable skillset, as well as the seniority perk. I have to go as I now have company over, but I look forward to discussing this more with you at another time.
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2013.05.16 03:15:00 - [30] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: If by better you mean shorter, not as detailed and not telling of the game's strengths - sure. I've also noticed that COD fanboys don't like Dust too much :( What strengths? And I don't even play COD, wtf? It's really pathetic how every CCP ** rider tries to paint all negative opinions as COD fanboyism. Just shows their insecurity about the quality of this game. "What Strengths" Evidently you didn't read my OP. And I never said you were a COD fanboy... but, if the shoe fits, wear it. My remark about COD Fanboys was a point of topic of whether you agreed or not. But apparently - you jumped to conclusions :( Didn't read the OP, too much ** riding imo.



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