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Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:51:00 -
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Yes how to counter the TAR. Before you call me a Troll, I dont give a ****... And before you counter argue with my tip on how to counter the TAR... **** off... lol I really could care less but the Tar is a weapon like any other gun in the game, and it kills. So what if people use it, more then half the game pop uses it... So what... Anyways - how to counter the TAR you ask?
- Strafe left and right and hide behind cover if they hit you from a distance.
- Strafe left and right and dodge their hits, most likely close range they will use hipfire.
- Use a Scrambler rifle, the ultimate counter attack to TAR users. Scrambler rifle can charge up and hit like a sniper rifle from mid to long range. Or you can tap the trigger similar to the TAR and hit mid to long range. The scrambler rifle has an advantage- its Sight on it is better- More like a red dote sight while the TAR has a ACOG similar sight. Only downside to the Scrambler rifle is it heats up insanely fast. Thats where skill comes in, you get better at mastering the heat build up by timing it.
On the first day of using the scrambler rifles, I went for Proto scrambler rifles, and by far I counter every TAR user. TIP- just go into and out of cover, once they see your trying to hide, they get the feeling your an easy target. Then you pop out of cover, nail them in the chest and face, before the Scrambler can heat up, its kill right there. Stick together with teammates or squad mates.
Thats all folks... I just hope you guys realize the TAR can be Countered.
- GETH |
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General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:54:00 -
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as a tar user i support this thread |
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Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
332
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:21:00 -
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Bumpy ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:23:00 -
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Another counter: Locate target with TAR. Flank. Shotgun to face. Another counter: Locate target. Run over with LAV. Another counter: Bring Sniper Rifle. Kill at more than 3 times their max range. Another counter: TANK.
Thanks for sharing, good to know this is a solid tactic when you learn the Scrambler. +1. |
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Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
204
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:28:00 -
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Another counter: Squash with Dropship. |
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Green Living
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
219
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:52:00 -
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Another counter: Kill them at distance with the Laser Rifle, oh wait... |
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Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2013.05.16 03:17:00 -
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only counter to a TAR is a TAR. hence why its the only gun used.
Just goes to show, whoever is balancing these weapons is fcuking batshit.
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
238
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Posted - 2013.05.16 03:24:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Another counter: Kill them at distance with the Laser Rifle, oh wait...
I know, even the viziam doesn't seem to out range them. The distance does feel better than before. |
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Infekti0n
One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative
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Posted - 2013.05.16 03:26:00 -
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This guy serious.. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) |
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
587
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Posted - 2013.05.16 03:29:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:...a red dote sight... Got to love red dotes. |
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Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
285
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Posted - 2013.05.16 03:31:00 -
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Anti Tac Doctrine.
Laser Rifle ELM-7- Two damage mods and a vantage point.
Scrambler Rifle- Fair game for both players.
Assault Rifle and a Rock.
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Nariec
Carbon 7
7
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Posted - 2013.05.16 03:55:00 -
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Another counter: Mahhh HUUGGGEE GUNS on mahhh biceps and the one on mahh crotch! |
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Sontie
Ill Omens EoN.
308
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:06:00 -
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Pay close attention to where the TAR is firing in close range. Counter strafe and your AR will dominate in close range.
If you can't beat the guy in a 1v1, then don't. Always pick your fights.
They need to buff the SCR.
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McFurious
BetaMax. CRONOS.
74
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:05:00 -
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So what's the counter to half or more of the enemy team with TAR's? |
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
300
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:07:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Yes how to counter the TAR. Before you call me a Troll, I dont give a ****... And before you counter argue with my tip on how to counter the TAR... **** off... lol I really could care less but the Tar is a weapon like any other gun in the game, and it kills. So what if people use it, more then half the game pop uses it... So what... Anyways - how to counter the TAR you ask?
- Strafe left and right and hide behind cover if they hit you from a distance.
- Strafe left and right and dodge their hits, most likely close range they will use hipfire.
- Use a Scrambler rifle, the ultimate counter attack to TAR users. Scrambler rifle can charge up and hit like a sniper rifle from mid to long range. Or you can tap the trigger similar to the TAR and hit mid to long range. The scrambler rifle has an advantage- its Sight on it is better- More like a red dote sight while the TAR has a ACOG similar sight. Only downside to the Scrambler rifle is it heats up insanely fast. Thats where skill comes in, you get better at mastering the heat build up by timing it.
On the first day of using the scrambler rifles, I went for Proto scrambler rifles, and by far I counter every TAR user. TIP- just go into and out of cover, once they see your trying to hide, they get the feeling your an easy target. Then you pop out of cover, nail them in the chest and face, before the Scrambler can heat up, its kill right there. Stick together with teammates or squad mates.
Thats all folks... I just hope you guys realize the TAR can be Countered.
- GETH
What if I am Gallente armor based and not a ***** and run at you? Also have strong hipfire aim? |
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General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:10:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Another counter: Locate target with TAR. Flank. Shotgun to face. Another counter: Locate target. Run over with LAV. Another counter: Bring Sniper Rifle. Kill at more than 3 times their max range. Another counter: TANK.
Thanks for sharing, good to know this is a solid tactic when you learn the Scrambler. +1.
1. shotgun rarely ever works against me. 2. LAV, I pray and hope they have the idea of running me over so i could blow them up with my av nades. yes I level up grenadier. 3. Snipers can be annoying but most of the time they dont do enough damage to kill me, and I can usually figure out where they are after a couple shots. 4. I usually die trying to blow up tanks lol. |
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Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
330
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:12:00 -
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McFurious wrote:So what's the counter to half or more of the enemy team with TAR's?
This^ |
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Naedeus
DUST University Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:15:00 -
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McFurious wrote:So what's the counter to half or more of the enemy team with TAR's?
Orbital Bombardments, obviously. |
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:16:00 -
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the counter is waiting it out till CCP swings the nerf hammer. the denial of some people is really amusing but you should simply face the fact that the nerf is unavoidable. |
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Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:21:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:the counter is waiting it out till CCP swings the nerf hammer. the denial of some people is really amusing but you should simply face the fact that the nerf is unavoidable.
Yep.
Exactly why I've been trying to round some numbers for the new Tac AR's stats. I stopped trusting CCP with the nerf hammer. I'd rather we nerf ourselves. Here's what input from some people on the numbers I proposed lead to.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76615&p=4
In case, you don't want to bother read the thread:
GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle Damage: 61 HP Rate of Fire: 450 RPM (compare with full auto Breach AR) down from 789.5 Accuracy Rating: 42.9 (similar hip fire spread to the Burst Scrambler Pistol) down from 56.1 Clip Size: 30 (increased) up from 24 Max Ammo: 180 (reduction) down from 300
Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle Damage: 64.2 HP Rate of Fire: 450 RPM (better than GLU-5, but still lowered) down from 789.5 Accuracy Rating: 43.5 (exactly .6 higher than the GLU-5, as intended) down from 56.7 Clip Size: 30 Max Ammo: 180 |
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bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:06:00 -
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its the packs of tars that's problem, its like an old fashioned firing squad, READY...AIM....FIRE !..... and I drop before I even think about cover, I use a tar myself sometimes, it has its draw backs, and it doesn't fire as quick as it says, sure you can empty it quick but you be lucky to hit the target twice, with full auto 1 round follows the next, with tar the sight shift up and to the side, so you need to constantly re adjust, might not be a problem with mouse @ board... |
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:10:00 -
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I think the TAR is fair and balanced. You coden't wish for a better weapon.
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Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
335
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:12:00 -
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bonkersfox wrote:its the packs of tars that's problem, its like an old fashioned firing squad, READY...AIM....FIRE !..... and I drop before I even think about cover, I use a tar myself sometimes, it has its draw backs, and it doesn't fire as quick as it says, sure you can empty it quick but you be lucky to hit the target twice, with full auto 1 round follows the next, with tar the sight shift up and to the side, so you need to constantly re adjust, might not be a problem with mouse @ board... Well thats the hardest thing to get used to, running up against a squad of tar users. All I do is pick the targets one by one, and let them finish off other targets, while they are busy, and distracted, you take them out, hopefully you get hatemail.... thats a bonus... lol.
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
464
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:16:00 -
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The same counter to everything else... Forge Gun lol |
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bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation
41
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:21:00 -
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iv not got any hate mail in dust yet, I used to get loads in farcry, it uses your psn name to so mail used to come with friend req, it was a nightmare..! it was funny when they came in different languages, you knew they were hatemail with all the exclamation marks, example; hfhgb!!!!! dndhdh dndhdhd udybdksl!!!!!! !!!!! dhjdhdh!!! p.s I don't know any other language so don't take offence.. |
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Billi Gene
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:24:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Jack McReady wrote:the counter is waiting it out till CCP swings the nerf hammer. the denial of some people is really amusing but you should simply face the fact that the nerf is unavoidable. Yep. Exactly why I've been trying to round some numbers for the new Tac AR's stats. I stopped trusting CCP with the nerf hammer. I'd rather we nerf ourselves. Here's what input from some people on the numbers I proposed lead to. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76615&p=4In case, you don't want to bother read the thread: GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle Damage: 61 HP Rate of Fire: 450 RPM (compare with full auto Breach AR) down from 789.5 Accuracy Rating: 42.9 (similar hip fire spread to the Burst Scrambler Pistol) down from 56.1 Clip Size: 30 (increased) up from 24 Max Ammo: 180 (reduction) down from 300
Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle Damage: 64.2 HP Rate of Fire: 450 RPM (better than GLU-5, but still lowered) down from 789.5 Accuracy Rating: 43.5 (exactly .6 higher than the GLU-5, as intended) down from 56.7 Clip Size: 30 Max Ammo: 180
i would have thought reducing damage per round and RoF would have been enough to balance the TAR, why reduce its Accuracy or increase its clip size?
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bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:32:00 -
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I agree it doesn't need more ammo, in relative terms the the tac is like an m14 larger round that travels further, therefore reducing mag size, what I don't understand is why the breach has a lower rof |
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Zylak's Used Clones
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:21:00 -
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Let's roll with Geth. Triple the dam from a TAR, **** all noobs (we don't need more players, right?). Let's ignore game longevity, let's win with the TAR right now! If you don't wanna play with a TAR this is the wrong game for you, don't bother downloading, newbie |
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