DUST Search - IGN Review "in progress"

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

Dont fanboy saying that everyone with a legitimate complaint about the game is saying the sky is falling, makes you look bad

Fact is that yes IGN has no credibility and is only good for a laugh
Fact is that core game mechanics are broken
Fact is CCP has been catering to loud minorities causing many imbalances in the game
Fact is theyve been working on this more than a year and the launch product is somehow shoddier and less refined than builds from months ago

Now is there fun to be squeezed out of this game now and then yes, but overall is it a bad game and is trolling, I mean "metagaming" the forums more fun yes it is

You did notice that I'm actively posting in threads with my own complaints?

Nice try at discrediting your opponent.

You say IGN has no credibility, but think about everyone else we know for a second.

If IGN says the game sucks, they will trumpet it all over the forums as some sick sign of victory. If they don't say it sucks, they'll post saying either that IGN is bad, or that CCP bought them off.

This isn't about the game. This is about people who hate being wrong to such an extent that they'll grasp at any straw they can to try and make themselves look right.

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Bling Blaine FrontLine-Coalition 54	Posted - 2013.05.15 00:41:00 - [1] - Quote First off I hate IGN, but this will make some real hot topics, so here it is so far straight from the horses mouth.... IGN Dust Review "in progress" It's a good thing I like numbers, because Dust 514 has thrown an awful lot of them at me with little regard to whether I was ready or not. See, I'm the guy who's disappointed when a new RPG doesn't have enough stats to interpret, or when its skill tree looks more Charlie Brown Christmas special than Rockefeller Plaza. But even number nerds like me have limits, and while I'm not ready to say that Dust 514 exceeds mine quite yet, it certainly throws a whole lot more at new players than just about any FPS I can think of. The loadout system is a perfect example of this. Sure, you start out with a handful of pre-made kits to jump right in with, but if you really intend to go to war you'll need to get the good stuff (read: the stuff that veteran beta players are using to mop the floor with your face). Put to rest any ideas you have about choosing two weapons, a couple of perks, and hanging with the big boys right away. Planning a loadout in Dust has more in common with building a mech in Armored Core than slapping together a custom class in Call of Duty. Each one of the many dropsuit models you can choose as a framework features different slot formations for a wide variety of weapons, equipment, and suit augmentation modules. You'll need to consider your suit's power grid and CPU limits as well, as going over these specifications will invalidate your setup completely. So for instance, you might choose to go with one of the logistic frame sub-types, which would afford you additional equipment slots for scanners and lifesaving nanite-injection kits. But they'll be competing for juice with the shield extenders you'd want in the high-power upgrade slots the suit houses. Fortunately, it also has two low-power banks which can be fitted with engineering upgrades that boost the suit's overall power output. This dance of power vs performance becomes even tougher when you start factoring in cost, and seeing as you pay to replace your suit every time your ticket gets punched, you literally cannot afford to be frivolous when deciding how to deck yourself out. And if that isn't enough to wrap your head around, each individual type of equipment you bring to bear requires you to purchase the corresponding skill book, and allocate enough skill points to reach the level of expertise necessary. Deciding what path to take along the skill tree isn't so different from the same decisions in an RPG: being a generalist gives you flexibility, but at the cost of high end power. If you don't start zeroing in on what you want your combat role to be early, you can easily find yourself lacking the necessary resources to build your perfect dropsuit. I lost almost as much time pouring over all these complexities as I did shooting people in the face, but for folks like me, that's actually not such a bad thing. After all, there's plenty of other shooters out there for people who just want to sit down and get their frag on, and while it'll certainly be too much for some, it might be exactly what burnt-out FPS junkies need. Whether all that complexity will translate into true depth on the battlefield remains to be seen, but regardless, Dust 514 had me nerding out over skills and gear before a single pull of the trigger, and that's worth something in and of itself.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 100	Posted - 2013.05.15 00:43:00 - [2] - Quote You read the IGN user review about this game? Ouch..
Natu Nobilis BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 259	Posted - 2013.05.15 00:47:00 - [3] - Quote "I-¦m a guy who likes numbers and RPG" "OHMIGOD, i can-¦t fit all i want in one place, i have to check the colour bar to see if it fits, and i have to spend money for it!" That-¦s a good start.
Bling Blaine FrontLine-Coalition 55	Posted - 2013.05.15 01:09:00 - [4] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: "I-¦m a guy who likes numbers and RPG" "OHMIGOD, i can-¦t fit all i want in one place, i have to check the colour bar to see if it fits, and i have to spend money for it!" That-¦s a good start. EDIT: He took 4 paragraphs to say this. OP, pelase reimburse my 120 seconds back. Will do....zzzzzzsssnnaapp........done The op will be updated when full review is up for laughs
Delta 749 Maverick Security Consulting 90	Posted - 2013.05.15 01:13:00 - [5] - Quote Review implying you can get into a logistics suit as a new player If he got a special toon from CCP with a bunch of SP already on it then you cant trust the review at all, it doesnt show the true new player experience
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 732	Posted - 2013.05.15 01:32:00 - [6] - Quote hehe, beta vets wiping the floor with you, i like this guy
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 732	Posted - 2013.05.15 01:35:00 - [7] - Quote Bling Blaine wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: "I-¦m a guy who likes numbers and RPG" "OHMIGOD, i can-¦t fit all i want in one place, i have to check the colour bar to see if it fits, and i have to spend money for it!" That-¦s a good start. EDIT: He took 4 paragraphs to say this. OP, pelase reimburse my 120 seconds back. Will do....zzzzzzsssnnaapp........done The op will be updated when full review is up for laughs put in the reader reviews for added laughs
Ticket To Nowhere CAS 514 3	Posted - 2013.05.15 01:39:00 - [8] - Quote ...okay, I admit it, he actually did a pretty good job describing the game. But 'in progress'? Dude, give the game a week or so...
Delta 749 Maverick Security Consulting 90	Posted - 2013.05.15 01:40:00 - [9] - Quote Ticket To Nowhere wrote: ...okay, I admit it, he actually did a pretty good job describing the game. But 'in progress'? Dude, give the game a week or so... Game had a week, this is the product they decided was ready for full launch so reviewing it now is entirely fair Inb4 someone says CCP has a ten year plan
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 48	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:18:00 - [10] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Ticket To Nowhere wrote: ...okay, I admit it, he actually did a pretty good job describing the game. But 'in progress'? Dude, give the game a week or so... Game had a week, this is the product they decided was ready for full launch so reviewing it now is entirely fair Inb4 someone says CCP has a ten year plan Down boy, down. But yeah man, CCP has a ten year plan.

Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1492	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:20:00 - [11] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Ticket To Nowhere wrote: ...okay, I admit it, he actually did a pretty good job describing the game. But 'in progress'? Dude, give the game a week or so... Game had a week, this is the product they decided was ready for full launch so reviewing it now is entirely fair Inb4 someone says CCP has a ten year plan They do. And LOL at how the reviewer said he loves the depth. If Dust gets a good review on IGN, you think the haters will shut up, or just start insisting that CCP bought them off? I know which one my money's on.
Delta 749 Maverick Security Consulting 91	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:25:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Ticket To Nowhere wrote: ...okay, I admit it, he actually did a pretty good job describing the game. But 'in progress'? Dude, give the game a week or so... Game had a week, this is the product they decided was ready for full launch so reviewing it now is entirely fair Inb4 someone says CCP has a ten year plan They do. And LOL at how the reviewer said he loves the depth. If Dust gets a good review on IGN, you think the haters will shut up, or just start insisting that CCP bought them off? I know which one my money's on. To be fair IGN does let itself be bought, or did you forget the whole Kane and Lynch debacle
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1492	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:26:00 - [13] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Ticket To Nowhere wrote: ...okay, I admit it, he actually did a pretty good job describing the game. But 'in progress'? Dude, give the game a week or so... Game had a week, this is the product they decided was ready for full launch so reviewing it now is entirely fair Inb4 someone says CCP has a ten year plan They do. And LOL at how the reviewer said he loves the depth. If Dust gets a good review on IGN, you think the haters will shut up, or just start insisting that CCP bought them off? I know which one my money's on. To be fair IGN does let itself be bought, or did you forget the whole Kane and Lynch debacle So now we know what you'll be insisting. Honestly, there's always some ironclad reason this game is doomed to fail, and all of you keep playing it. Who are you trying to fool?
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 252	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:28:00 - [14] - Quote What's the reviewer's dust name? It'd be fun to "show him a good time"
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 239	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:28:00 - [15] - Quote I'm betting the latter.
Icy Xenosmilus Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 247	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:30:00 - [16] - Quote Why is it that every year CoD gets 8.5+ when the mechanics degrade continuously?
DarkMaximos Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 12	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:33:00 - [17] - Quote Icy Xenosmilus wrote: Why is it that every year CoD gets 8.5+ when the mechanics degrade continuously? Its mainstream and kids and some people don't know what a good game is. Instead as long they keep buying the same degrading games over and over. the game will never improve. Sad isn't it?
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1492	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:34:00 - [18] - Quote DarkMaximos wrote: Icy Xenosmilus wrote: Why is it that every year CoD gets 8.5+ when the mechanics degrade continuously? Its mainstream and kids and some people don't know what a good game is. Instead as long they keep buying the same degrading games over and over. the game will never improve. Sad isn't it? Yup.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 14	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:34:00 - [19] - Quote lol internet gaming review sites. People actually pay any attention to them? "Call of Warcraft 7: Goblins future, almost, warfare" - BEST GAME EVAAAAA 17 starzzzzzzz BUY DIS SHHIIZZZZ NAAOOOO
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 239	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:37:00 - [20] - Quote Icy Xenosmilus wrote: Why is it that every year CoD gets 8.5+ when the mechanics degrade continuously? It will forever be a mystery.

Delta 749 Maverick Security Consulting 91	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:37:00 - [21] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Ticket To Nowhere wrote: ...okay, I admit it, he actually did a pretty good job describing the game. But 'in progress'? Dude, give the game a week or so... Game had a week, this is the product they decided was ready for full launch so reviewing it now is entirely fair Inb4 someone says CCP has a ten year plan They do. And LOL at how the reviewer said he loves the depth. If Dust gets a good review on IGN, you think the haters will shut up, or just start insisting that CCP bought them off? I know which one my money's on. To be fair IGN does let itself be bought, or did you forget the whole Kane and Lynch debacle So now we know what you'll be insisting. Honestly, there's always some ironclad reason this game is doomed to fail, and all of you keep playing it. Who are you trying to fool? Dont fanboy saying that everyone with a legitimate complaint about the game is saying the sky is falling, makes you look bad Fact is that yes IGN has no credibility and is only good for a laugh Fact is that core game mechanics are broken Fact is CCP has been catering to loud minorities causing many imbalances in the game Fact is theyve been working on this more than a year and the launch product is somehow shoddier and less refined than builds from months ago Now is there fun to be squeezed out of this game now and then yes, but overall is it a bad game and is trolling, I mean "metagaming" the forums more fun yes it is
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1492	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:42:00 - [22] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Dont fanboy saying that everyone with a legitimate complaint about the game is saying the sky is falling, makes you look bad Fact is that yes IGN has no credibility and is only good for a laugh Fact is that core game mechanics are broken Fact is CCP has been catering to loud minorities causing many imbalances in the game Fact is theyve been working on this more than a year and the launch product is somehow shoddier and less refined than builds from months ago Now is there fun to be squeezed out of this game now and then yes, but overall is it a bad game and is trolling, I mean "metagaming" the forums more fun yes it is You did notice that I'm actively posting in threads with my own complaints? Nice try at discrediting your opponent. You say IGN has no credibility, but think about everyone else we know for a second. If IGN says the game sucks, they will trumpet it all over the forums as some sick sign of victory. If they don't say it sucks, they'll post saying either that IGN is bad, or that CCP bought them off. This isn't about the game. This is about people who hate being wrong to such an extent that they'll grasp at any straw they can to try and make themselves look right.
Delta 749 Maverick Security Consulting 91	Posted - 2013.05.15 02:44:00 - [23] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Dont fanboy saying that everyone with a legitimate complaint about the game is saying the sky is falling, makes you look bad Fact is that yes IGN has no credibility and is only good for a laugh Fact is that core game mechanics are broken Fact is CCP has been catering to loud minorities causing many imbalances in the game Fact is theyve been working on this more than a year and the launch product is somehow shoddier and less refined than builds from months ago Now is there fun to be squeezed out of this game now and then yes, but overall is it a bad game and is trolling, I mean "metagaming" the forums more fun yes it is You did notice that I'm actively posting in threads with my own complaints? Nice try at discrediting your opponent. You say IGN has no credibility, but think about everyone else we know for a second. If IGN says the game sucks, they will trumpet it all over the forums as some sick sign of victory. If they don't say it sucks, they'll post saying either that IGN is bad, or that CCP bought them off. This isn't about the game. This is about people who hate being wrong to such an extent that they'll grasp at any straw they can to try and make themselves look right. Anyone else get a pot to kettle vibe from this post
Elrick Mercer Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 30	Posted - 2013.05.19 10:07:00 - [24] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Dont fanboy saying that everyone with a legitimate complaint about the game is saying the sky is falling, makes you look bad Fact is that yes IGN has no credibility and is only good for a laugh Fact is that core game mechanics are broken Fact is CCP has been catering to loud minorities causing many imbalances in the game Fact is theyve been working on this more than a year and the launch product is somehow shoddier and less refined than builds from months ago Now is there fun to be squeezed out of this game now and then yes, but overall is it a bad game and is trolling, I mean "metagaming" the forums more fun yes it is You did notice that I'm actively posting in threads with my own complaints? Nice try at discrediting your opponent. You say IGN has no credibility, but think about everyone else we know for a second. If IGN says the game sucks, they will trumpet it all over the forums as some sick sign of victory. If they don't say it sucks, they'll post saying either that IGN is bad, or that CCP bought them off. This isn't about the game. This is about people who hate being wrong to such an extent that they'll grasp at any straw they can to try and make themselves look right. IGN has no credibility at all COD gets a high score every year from them regardless of how many bad launches, bugs, and imbalances the game always seems to have. Let's not forget the freezing, lag, lack of dedicated servers etc etc. So if IGN gives Dust a good score or bad they are to be taken with a grain of salt...


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