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VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:28:00 -
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That will fix it. Damage/splash is fine, but this godawful reload is killing me. Literally. |
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:32:00 -
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Funniest part about it is skill that gives it 5% ammo capacity per level.
Cause 1 rocket * 1.25 still rounds down to one rocket >.>
If anything there should be an assault variant of this thing that deals reduced damage but with 2-3 rockets |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:35:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Funniest part about it is skill that gives it 5% ammo capacity per level.
Cause 1 rocket * 1.25 still rounds down to one rocket >.>
If anything there should be an assault variant of this thing that deals reduced damage but with 2-3 rockets
It's 5% to the amount of rockets you can carry... |
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VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:36:00 -
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Oh, and reduce the ******* charge time. This weapon is a joke. |
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Arx Ardashir
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:46:00 -
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Wait, you want the clip and magazine size increased? ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 01:11:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:That will fix it. Damage/splash is fine, but this godawful reload is killing me. Literally.
Well it would be interesting to have 2 Plasma shots per Plasma Rod. Yes, yes indeed![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
EDIT: No to the reload speed and weapon capacity requests though, there are already skills that deal with this; no point in buffing the weapon to a point that the skills become just an added buff. |
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Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
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Posted - 2013.05.15 01:13:00 -
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Does the 5% ammunition affect anything? |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 01:16:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Does the 5% ammunition affect anything?
It is supposed to increase the amount of Plasma Rods you can carry by 5%; ex. 9 + 5% increase = 13 and so on ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:11:00 -
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THE FREAKN WEAPON IS FINE.
If only there was a PASSIVE Skill of RAPID RELOAD for the Plasma Cannon......
You want the weapon to have 3 ammo clip capacity ? Thats what some Forge guns have and you need to play HEAVY to use them. Is the price you pay for using an AV weapon on any load out you want with Damage output of 1000+ and even the ability to hurt/kill infantry.
Dont request BUFFS on an already good weapon or you will regret it.... |
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Mensche Meysim
Quantum Innovations
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:34:00 -
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I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:41:00 -
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Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range.
I got 38-5 in my first game with a standard Plasma cannon and militia infantry. Got 2 LAV and 1 dropship too. RUNING MINMATAR ASSAULT.
The weapons is not even a day old...give it a break.What did you expect a FORGE GUN? The forge Gun's penalty is that it can ONLY be used by Heavies....
Its worse than ANYTHING you can think of the plasma cannon.
Just because you cant kill something doesn't mean the weapon doesn't work.
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XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:57:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Wait, you want the clip and magazine size increased? ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
I was scratching my head at that. |
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XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:THE FREAKN WEAPON IS FINE.
If only there was a PASSIVE Skill of RAPID RELOAD for the Plasma Cannon......
You want the weapon to have 3 ammo clip capacity ? Thats what some Forge guns have and you need to play HEAVY to use them. Is the price you pay for using an AV weapon on any load out you want with Damage output of 1000+ and even the ability to hurt/kill infantry.
Dont request BUFFS on an already good weapon or you will regret it....
The Forge out DPS's it, out ranges it, almost instant hit, and has a straight shot.
I think if they simply gave this a three round magazine it would be a beast. Giving it any extra buff after that would be overkill.
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XXfootnoteXX
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:01:00 -
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Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range.
Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:02:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:THE FREAKN WEAPON IS FINE.
If only there was a PASSIVE Skill of RAPID RELOAD for the Plasma Cannon......
You want the weapon to have 3 ammo clip capacity ? Thats what some Forge guns have and you need to play HEAVY to use them. Is the price you pay for using an AV weapon on any load out you want with Damage output of 1000+ and even the ability to hurt/kill infantry.
Dont request BUFFS on an already good weapon or you will regret it.... The Forge out DPS's it, out ranges it, almost instant hit, and has a straight shot. I think if they simply gave this a three round magazine it would be a beast. Giving it any extra buff after that would be overkill.
YOU HAVE TO USE HEAVY TO USE A FORGE GUN.
You can use the plasma cannon with any suit you'd like.Thats the real advantage.
Think the Forge gun is better. Respec today into heavy and have fun brosky.
But if you want to be able to MOVE and have a decent drop suit, use the plasma. 1000+ Damage per shot is good AV damage. PLUS the chance to hit some fatso in the face with it. |
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Skilfer
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:04:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others.
I'm sorry to be the one that has to say this to everyone here....but it is technically designed for AV, not anti-infantry... |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:08:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:THE FREAKN WEAPON IS FINE.
If only there was a PASSIVE Skill of RAPID RELOAD for the Plasma Cannon......
You want the weapon to have 3 ammo clip capacity ? Thats what some Forge guns have and you need to play HEAVY to use them. Is the price you pay for using an AV weapon on any load out you want with Damage output of 1000+ and even the ability to hurt/kill infantry.
Dont request BUFFS on an already good weapon or you will regret it.... The Forge out DPS's it, out ranges it, almost instant hit, and has a straight shot. I think if they simply gave this a three round magazine it would be a beast. Giving it any extra buff after that would be overkill. YOU HAVE TO USE HEAVY TO USE A FORGE GUN. You can use the plasma cannon with any suit you'd like.Thats the real advantage. Think the Forge gun is better. Respec today into heavy and have fun brosky. But if you want to be able to MOVE and have a decent drop suit, use the plasma. 1000+ Damage per shot is good AV damage. PLUS the chance to hit some fatso in the face with it.
Actually I am speced into the forge gun. So....?
I still hold my opinion. I think the Plasma cannon is fundamentally flawed. I would accept a nerf to the damage to get 2-3 shots per magazine. I am not trying to make this a OHK weapon. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:10:00 -
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Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. I'm sorry to be the one that has to say this to everyone here....but it is technically designed for AV, not anti-infantry...
Yeah the whole AV thing kind of gives that away... If I can kill a vehicle with it, I expect I should be able to kill a merc with it, and I can so it works that way as far as I am concerned. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:11:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:
Actually I am speced into the forge gun. So....?
I still hold my opinion. I think the Plasma cannon is fundamentally flawed. I would accept a nerf to the damage to get 2-3 shots per magazine. I am not trying to make this a OHK weapon.
HOW long have you used the Plasma cannon, IF you have used it? It is a 1 HKO weapon on infantry, 1-2 on LAV's. It takes 2 shots to drop a Standard DROP SHIP, the only chance they get is while you reload to get the **** away.
Basically what you people are asking is a Mass driver with Forge Gun capacities and it will NOT happen.
Instead of saying THANKS! because now you can run Fully AV that works CQC vs vehicles (Swarm M dont) with say, Gallante scout , you complain... Pfft... |
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Maximus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:15:00 -
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Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. I'm sorry to be the one that has to say this to everyone here....but it is technically designed for AV, not anti-infantry...
AMEN BRUVVAH ! PREACH IT ! its an AV weapon, stop crying, you can still split atoms of infantry troops with it, thats just an added bonus, |
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Skilfer
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:16:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. I'm sorry to be the one that has to say this to everyone here....but it is technically designed for AV, not anti-infantry... Yeah the whole AV thing kind of gives that away... If I can kill a vehicle with it, I expect I should be able to kill a merc with it, and I can so it works that way as far as I am concerned.
I understand that, which is why I picked my words carefully and said "designed." It is pretty well capable of killing infantry in my opinion, but the main point that should be used for fixes and such would be in its designated role; however, designing a variant that would be slightly more effective against infantry than vehicles in some way would be an interesting approach to dealing with your problem :) |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:24:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:
Actually I am speced into the forge gun. So....?
I still hold my opinion. I think the Plasma cannon is fundamentally flawed. I would accept a nerf to the damage to get 2-3 shots per magazine. I am not trying to make this a OHK weapon.
HOW long have you used the Plasma cannon, IF you have used it? It is a 1 HKO weapon on infantry, 1-2 on LAV's. It takes 2 shots to drop a Standard DROP SHIP, the only chance they get is while you reload to get the **** away. Basically what you people are asking is a Mass driver with Forge Gun capacities and it will NOT happen. Instead of saying THANKS because now you can run Fully AV with say, GAllante scout , you complain... Pfft...
You are really, really getting butthurt over this aren't you?
Clearly no one is a subject matter expert on this weapon yet, its day one. I have played with it, the advanced model (I accidentally skilled into it after the reset).
Lets take a look at the LAV and drop ships.
Two games there were LAV's playing death cab and it is impossible to hit LAV's when they are moving, and now we need to hit them 2 times with this weapon? With a reload in the middle? That is a **** AV weapon. I didn't find any Dropships or HAV's while I was playing, I already know trying to hit a flying dropship with a weapon that has an arc is going to be very problematic.
Bottom line we are going to need more then a few hours to really find out if this weapon will work and what needs to be buffed/nerfed. I agree we should avoid trying to turn it into an oversized Mass Driver.
You could run fully AV with a scout before this weapon came out so its not like thats a new feature. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:26:00 -
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Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. I'm sorry to be the one that has to say this to everyone here....but it is technically designed for AV, not anti-infantry... Yeah the whole AV thing kind of gives that away... If I can kill a vehicle with it, I expect I should be able to kill a merc with it, and I can so it works that way as far as I am concerned. I understand that, which is why I picked my words carefully and said "designed." It is pretty well capable of killing infantry in my opinion, but the main point that should be used for fixes and such would be in its designated role; however, designing a variant that would be slightly more effective against infantry than vehicles in some way would be an interesting approach to dealing with your problem :)
Oh dont get me wrong, I am not aiming at using this in a anti-infentry roll. I simply had better opportunities to shoot mercs than vehicles. I think it does great at killing infantry for an AV weapon, no need to buff it in that regard. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:37:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote: You are really, really getting butthurt over this aren't you?
Clearly no one is a subject matter expert on this weapon yet, its day one. I have played with it, the advanced model (I accidentally skilled into it after the reset).
Lets take a look at the LAV and drop ships.
Two games there were LAV's playing death cab and it is impossible to hit LAV's when they are moving, and now we need to hit them 2 times with this weapon? With a reload in the middle? That is a **** AV weapon. I didn't find any Dropships or HAV's while I was playing, I already know trying to hit a flying dropship with a weapon that has an arc is going to be very problematic.
Bottom line we are going to need more then a few hours to really find out if this weapon will work and what needs to be buffed/nerfed. I agree we should avoid trying to turn it into an oversized Mass Driver.
You could run fully AV with a scout before this weapon came out so its not like thats a new feature.
Butthurt? you could say that. I hate that not even a day has gone by and people are asking for a buff on a perfectly GOOD weapon ,and a nerf on a weapon that every time it overheats blows half of my shield off,( yeah thats you S.Rifle.... )
THey just gave ALL the drop suits a Mini forge gun that kills people 1HKO and 2 HKOs most common vehicles. Yet no one is happy......
''Two games there were LAV's playing death cab and it is impossible to hit LAV's when they are moving, and now we need to hit them 2 times with this weapon? With a reload in the middle? That is a **** AV weapon.''
YOU cant hit them with the plasma cannon. I can. Usually for LAV's specially MLT or STD 1 shot is enough. I might be OK with a 2 shot AMMO CLIP, BUT THATS IT.
'' I already know trying to hit a flying dropship with a weapon that has an arc is going to be very problematic.'' Depends on the MAp, and Yeah it might be hard as ****,but if they fly low you got your shot.
This weapon already works pretty much as a Forgegun with less range, more buffs and it will make the Forgegun useless....
'' I agree we should avoid trying to turn it into an oversized Mass Driver.
You could run fully AV with a scout before this weapon came out so its not like thats a new feature''
Yes we should avoid that.
SCOUT AV? yeah it is a new feture. i mean CQC AV. Swarm launchers are USELESS at CQ combat vs vehicles and cant Hit infantry.And some stuff you just cant drop it with just grenades. So yeah it is a new feature. |
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