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XXfootnoteXX
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:57:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Wait, you want the clip and magazine size increased?
I was scratching my head at that. |
XXfootnoteXX
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:THE FREAKN WEAPON IS FINE.
If only there was a PASSIVE Skill of RAPID RELOAD for the Plasma Cannon......
You want the weapon to have 3 ammo clip capacity ? Thats what some Forge guns have and you need to play HEAVY to use them. Is the price you pay for using an AV weapon on any load out you want with Damage output of 1000+ and even the ability to hurt/kill infantry.
Dont request BUFFS on an already good weapon or you will regret it....
The Forge out DPS's it, out ranges it, almost instant hit, and has a straight shot.
I think if they simply gave this a three round magazine it would be a beast. Giving it any extra buff after that would be overkill.
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XXfootnoteXX
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:01:00 -
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Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range.
Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:08:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:THE FREAKN WEAPON IS FINE.
If only there was a PASSIVE Skill of RAPID RELOAD for the Plasma Cannon......
You want the weapon to have 3 ammo clip capacity ? Thats what some Forge guns have and you need to play HEAVY to use them. Is the price you pay for using an AV weapon on any load out you want with Damage output of 1000+ and even the ability to hurt/kill infantry.
Dont request BUFFS on an already good weapon or you will regret it.... The Forge out DPS's it, out ranges it, almost instant hit, and has a straight shot. I think if they simply gave this a three round magazine it would be a beast. Giving it any extra buff after that would be overkill. YOU HAVE TO USE HEAVY TO USE A FORGE GUN. You can use the plasma cannon with any suit you'd like.Thats the real advantage. Think the Forge gun is better. Respec today into heavy and have fun brosky. But if you want to be able to MOVE and have a decent drop suit, use the plasma. 1000+ Damage per shot is good AV damage. PLUS the chance to hit some fatso in the face with it.
Actually I am speced into the forge gun. So....?
I still hold my opinion. I think the Plasma cannon is fundamentally flawed. I would accept a nerf to the damage to get 2-3 shots per magazine. I am not trying to make this a OHK weapon. |
XXfootnoteXX
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:10:00 -
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Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. I'm sorry to be the one that has to say this to everyone here....but it is technically designed for AV, not anti-infantry...
Yeah the whole AV thing kind of gives that away... If I can kill a vehicle with it, I expect I should be able to kill a merc with it, and I can so it works that way as far as I am concerned. |
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:24:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:
Actually I am speced into the forge gun. So....?
I still hold my opinion. I think the Plasma cannon is fundamentally flawed. I would accept a nerf to the damage to get 2-3 shots per magazine. I am not trying to make this a OHK weapon.
HOW long have you used the Plasma cannon, IF you have used it? It is a 1 HKO weapon on infantry, 1-2 on LAV's. It takes 2 shots to drop a Standard DROP SHIP, the only chance they get is while you reload to get the **** away. Basically what you people are asking is a Mass driver with Forge Gun capacities and it will NOT happen. Instead of saying THANKS because now you can run Fully AV with say, GAllante scout , you complain... Pfft...
You are really, really getting butthurt over this aren't you?
Clearly no one is a subject matter expert on this weapon yet, its day one. I have played with it, the advanced model (I accidentally skilled into it after the reset).
Lets take a look at the LAV and drop ships.
Two games there were LAV's playing death cab and it is impossible to hit LAV's when they are moving, and now we need to hit them 2 times with this weapon? With a reload in the middle? That is a **** AV weapon. I didn't find any Dropships or HAV's while I was playing, I already know trying to hit a flying dropship with a weapon that has an arc is going to be very problematic.
Bottom line we are going to need more then a few hours to really find out if this weapon will work and what needs to be buffed/nerfed. I agree we should avoid trying to turn it into an oversized Mass Driver.
You could run fully AV with a scout before this weapon came out so its not like thats a new feature. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:26:00 -
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Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Skilfer wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Mensche Meysim wrote:I tried using the plasma cannon today and wasn't able to damage infantry with it. I aimed at them and at their feet, but there was no direct or splash damage to them, even at close range. Bad aiming. Not trying to be insulting but I killed maybe 4 mercs with it? Got kill assists on several others. I'm sorry to be the one that has to say this to everyone here....but it is technically designed for AV, not anti-infantry... Yeah the whole AV thing kind of gives that away... If I can kill a vehicle with it, I expect I should be able to kill a merc with it, and I can so it works that way as far as I am concerned. I understand that, which is why I picked my words carefully and said "designed." It is pretty well capable of killing infantry in my opinion, but the main point that should be used for fixes and such would be in its designated role; however, designing a variant that would be slightly more effective against infantry than vehicles in some way would be an interesting approach to dealing with your problem :)
Oh dont get me wrong, I am not aiming at using this in a anti-infentry roll. I simply had better opportunities to shoot mercs than vehicles. I think it does great at killing infantry for an AV weapon, no need to buff it in that regard. |
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