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TheBlob95 B
GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:20:00 -
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Why not have a very large blast radius, such as 6 m, but the farther away you are from the epicenter of the blast the less damage you take? (6 m is just a randomly thrown number, it has a 3.5 m blast radius by default and i'm sure the upper tiers have larger blast radii; this was just a suggestion for the general radius).
Edit: Plasma Cannon is currently great at the moment IMHO, some think otherwise though. Super satisfying to kill infantry, to me anyway.. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
456
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Posted - 2013.05.15 01:14:00 -
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It's intended as an AV weapon. I don't mind it being able to kill infantry, but when it does, it should be as a novelty act of desperation, not as a viable use of the weapon. The inevitable comparison is with the mass driver. Any argument made for or against the Cannon in its potential AI use, must be done in the context of the MD. |
TheBlob95 B
GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2013.05.15 01:30:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:It's intended as an AV weapon. I don't mind it being able to kill infantry, but when it does, it should be as a novelty act of desperation, not as a viable use of the weapon. The inevitable comparison is with the mass driver. Any argument made for or against the Cannon in its potential AI use, must be done in the context of the MD.
Okay, that's a fair analysis, but if it were truly an AV only weapon why not make it lock-on only or make the damage less effective towards infantry? I believe it is fair game for infantry and AV equally; people with different play styles are entitled to determine the most effective usage of a weapon. I personally find it very effective against infantry as well as vehicles and installations; plus it is one of best looking weapons they've add thus far. It is similar to the MD in many ways, but can not be entirely compared to it; the MD has and identity and the Plasma Cannon does not need to match it. They are two different weapon classes... |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 01:33:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:It's intended as an AV weapon. I don't mind it being able to kill infantry, but when it does, it should be as a novelty act of desperation, not as a viable use of the weapon. The inevitable comparison is with the mass driver. Any argument made for or against the Cannon in its potential AI use, must be done in the context of the MD.
The potential OF LIGHT armored AV infantry is HUGE.
SAy an Minmatar Assault at Lv5 proto with 100 bullet Ishikune SMG and a Advanced Plasma cannon. Dropping Drop ships and LAV's like flies bro...
Or a gallante scout with good Profile dampening and scan range?
The plasma cannon is a good balanced weapon that takes AV to a whole other level. +1 to the weapon. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:07:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:It's intended as an AV weapon. I don't mind it being able to kill infantry, but when it does, it should be as a novelty act of desperation, not as a viable use of the weapon. The inevitable comparison is with the mass driver. Any argument made for or against the Cannon in its potential AI use, must be done in the context of the MD. The potential OF LIGHT armored AV infantry is HUGE. SAy an Minmatar Assault at Lv5 proto with 100 bullet Ishikune SMG and a Advanced Plasma cannon. Dropping Drop ships and LAV's like flies bro... Or a gallante scout with good Profile dampening and scan range? The plasma cannon is a good balanced weapon that takes AV to a whole other level. +1 to the weapon.
Hardly. Far too much skill required for it's usage and the round is terribly slow considering it's low damage.
A single round can't even kill a starter LAV and that's assuming you hit the ****ing thing with the projectile moving slower than a Mass Driver round.
Swarm Launcher projectiles are faster, lock on and do more damage (assuming all missiles hit). This weapon is broken and DOA. |
Slack Machine
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:20:00 -
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I specc'd into this thing to Prof 1. And I have to say, this thing is terribad!!
Idea to make it worthwhile: Make it so that anyone who dies to this thing, get's logged out of PSN and get's a 1hour ban from playing Dust.
I'd say that's about balanced. So to all those I killed with this today, you should be ashamed. :) |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
275
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:20:00 -
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TheBlob95 B wrote:Why not have a very large blast radius, such as 6 m, but the farther away you are from the epicenter of the blast the less damage you take? (6 m is just a randomly thrown number, it has a 3.5 m blast radius by default and i'm sure the upper tiers have larger blast radii; this was just a suggestion for the general radius). Edit: Plasma Cannon is currently great at the moment IMHO, some think otherwise though. Super satisfying to kill infantry, to me anyway..
This does not need a bigger splash damage. IMO it seems to me that its easier to kill infantry with this weapon than vehicles. |
Slack Machine
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:27:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:It's intended as an AV weapon. I don't mind it being able to kill infantry, but when it does, it should be as a novelty act of desperation, not as a viable use of the weapon. The inevitable comparison is with the mass driver. Any argument made for or against the Cannon in its potential AI use, must be done in the context of the MD. The potential OF LIGHT armored AV infantry is HUGE. SAy an Minmatar Assault at Lv5 proto with 100 bullet Ishikune SMG and a Advanced Plasma cannon. Dropping Drop ships and LAV's like flies bro... Or a gallante scout with good Profile dampening and scan range? The plasma cannon is a good balanced weapon that takes AV to a whole other level. +1 to the weapon.
You're imagination is cute. I specc'd into the Allotek Plasma Cannon and have an Ishukone SMG as my side arm in a Caldari Assault Suit.
Yes it takes AV to a whole other level -- lower.
Good luck hitting the newly buffed LAV's -- twice!! TWICE!! Because that's what it takes for the Prototype Plasma Cannon to destroy it. Tanks shrug this thing off like it's nothing. The only reason I was able to kill a Sica was because some blue dot was chucking what could probably be Hacked EX0s at it while I fired away and the tank DID NOT MOVE. Later, I managed to catch a Madrugar doing a 12point u-turn all the while, I emptied this thing to bring it down to half armor. It finished it's genius u-turn and left me scratching my head thinking: 'Really?'
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XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
275
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:35:00 -
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Slack Machine wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:It's intended as an AV weapon. I don't mind it being able to kill infantry, but when it does, it should be as a novelty act of desperation, not as a viable use of the weapon. The inevitable comparison is with the mass driver. Any argument made for or against the Cannon in its potential AI use, must be done in the context of the MD. The potential OF LIGHT armored AV infantry is HUGE. SAy an Minmatar Assault at Lv5 proto with 100 bullet Ishikune SMG and a Advanced Plasma cannon. Dropping Drop ships and LAV's like flies bro... Or a gallante scout with good Profile dampening and scan range? The plasma cannon is a good balanced weapon that takes AV to a whole other level. +1 to the weapon. You're imagination is cute. I specc'd into the Allotek Plasma Cannon and have an Ishukone SMG as my side arm in a Caldari Assault Suit. Yes it takes AV to a whole other level -- lower. Good luck hitting the newly buffed LAV's -- twice!! TWICE!! Because that's what it takes for the Prototype Plasma Cannon to destroy it. Tanks shrug this thing off like it's nothing. The only reason I was able to kill a Sica was because some blue dot was chucking what could probably be Hacked EX0s at it while I fired away and the tank DID NOT MOVE. Later, I managed to catch a Madrugar doing a 12point u-turn all the while, I emptied this thing to bring it down to half armor. It finished it's genius u-turn and left me scratching my head thinking: 'Really?'
Pretty much where I stand. I only went to L4 with the skills and using the ADV version I put 3 rounds into a gunlogi and I *might* have gotten it down to 2/3 of its sheilds.
I can accept the fact it has a benifit over other AV weapons due to being able to kill infentry relitively easy, but its not THAT much of a benifit.
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Liam Helm
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:46:00 -
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TheBlob95 B wrote:Why not have a very large blast radius, such as 6 m, but the farther away you are from the epicenter of the blast the less damage you take? (6 m is just a randomly thrown number, it has a 3.5 m blast radius by default and i'm sure the upper tiers have larger blast radii; this was just a suggestion for the general radius). Edit: Plasma Cannon is currently great at the moment IMHO, some think otherwise though. Super satisfying to kill infantry, to me anyway..
I LOVE IT! it runs off the tears of my enemies in fact it's my most desirable weapons for both AV(LAVs dont stand a chance) and Anti-Infantry. But I been using it all day and have gotten very good with it. it defiantly takes time using it for A-I |
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XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
275
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:09:00 -
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Liam Helm wrote:TheBlob95 B wrote:Why not have a very large blast radius, such as 6 m, but the farther away you are from the epicenter of the blast the less damage you take? (6 m is just a randomly thrown number, it has a 3.5 m blast radius by default and i'm sure the upper tiers have larger blast radii; this was just a suggestion for the general radius). Edit: Plasma Cannon is currently great at the moment IMHO, some think otherwise though. Super satisfying to kill infantry, to me anyway.. I LOVE IT! it runs off the tears of my enemies in fact it's my most desirable weapons for both AV(LAVs dont stand a chance) and but mainly Anti-Infantry is what i find this weapon most useful for. But I been using it all day and have gotten very good with it. it defiantly takes time using it for A-I
Takes time for AI? I found that easiest of the two tasks. |
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