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        |  Rogatien Merc
 Ill Omens
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.14 17:56:00 -
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 So running around on an alt account I plan to use to try out flavor of the month stuff in the future or LAVs or whatever the hell just for fun. 500,000 SP gallente frontline with a GLU and nothing in skills except required to get that GLU (ok ok, a Flaylock too, but whatever).
 
 Completely raping noobs dude. It reminds me of the first week of open beta all over again. And I'm not even that good at this game. About to drop down to militia assault just because it stops being fun after a while.
 
 You need to let people GTFO of Academy and it would stop at least SOME of this.
 
 OTOH, gonna go stroke my KDR.
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        |  ladwar
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 399
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 17:59:00 -
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 no you stay there like a good newberry. bad new beery trying to be a vet. pshh
 *goes and AFK*
 
 really... fix this bug/glitch thing
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        |  Nguruthos IX
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 418
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:05:00 -
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 Always said it needed to be placed in as an option.
 
 99% of these sorts of problems could be prevented if players were able to make simple choices.
 
 "Would I like to que for my academy level, or in with the big boys?"
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        |  LXicon
 VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
 
 95
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:07:00 -
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 get on a squad that isn't full of new players?
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        |  Laheon
 Osmon Surveillance
 Caldari State
 
 458
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:09:00 -
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 You can get in a squad with the "big boys" and go to war with them, completely bypassing the academy.
 
 That said, it would be nice if you had the option to go to war by yourself.
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        |  VictorMaximus
 Storm Wind Strikeforce
 Caldari State
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:17:00 -
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 do we have any idea yet what the threshold is for getting out?
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        |  rose bustskulls
 Worst Corp. INC.
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:34:00 -
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 new players should be able to jump to real battles if they think they can handle it, but older players should not be able to move down and play in the academy matches.
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        |  rose bustskulls
 Worst Corp. INC.
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:36:00 -
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 hmmmm or maybe forcing that interaction to get out of the academy is actually genius game design.... hmm I think on this...
 
 It really pushes people into joining up in squads and corps.... If they think the game is too easy.
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        |  Skag Barron
 Tronhadar Free Guard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 53
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:36:00 -
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 Their looking into this at the mo, some new player can't join academy and vise versa
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        |  CCP Nullarbor
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 1114
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:46:00 -
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 Yeah we found a bug with the academy, working on fix right now to be deployed tomorrow during downtime.
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        |  The Infected One
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 194
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 18:47:00 -
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 I think that the academy, while a good idea in theory is absolutely stupid I'm its practice. CCP still doesn't have a fix for scrimish games counting stars unless you clone the other team. I have been playing since before the "Precursor" build, I have over 11 million SP, I reach the cap every week, continue playing once I reach the cap, I do not sit back and AFK, I average 20-30 kills a game and I hack everything worth points, blow up everything that I can, and because I find ambush boring before I reach my cap, I still sit with a KDR of 3.05 (KDR means nothing) 5000 WP, and around 8000 kills.
 
 If they had fixed the stat counting issue before they instituted this WP limited academy, they would have far fewer "vets" playing with the new players, stomping them into the ground.
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        |  Skag Barron
 Tronhadar Free Guard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 53
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:00:00 -
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 The Infected One wrote:I think that the academy, while a good idea in theory is absolutely stupid in its practice. CCP still doesn't have a fix for scrimish games counting stats unless you clone the other team. I have been playing since before the "Precursor" build, I have over 11 million SP, I reach the cap every week, continue playing once I reach the cap, I do not sit back and AFK, I average 20-30 kills a game and I hack everything worth points, blow up everything that I can, and because I find ambush boring before I reach my cap, I still sit with a KDR of 3.05 (KDR means nothing) 5000 WP, and around 8000 kills. 
 If they had fixed the stat counting issue before they instituted this WP limited academy, they would have far fewer "vets" playing with the new players, stomping them into the ground.
 
 Not sure how bragging about how wonderful you are at this game has to do with a glitch with a game mode for new players?
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        |  Nguruthos IX
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 420
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:05:00 -
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 CCP Nullarbor wrote:Yeah we found a bug with the academy, working on fix right now to be deployed tomorrow during downtime. 
 and the freedom to choose which you want to queue for would be detrimental to the game, how?
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        |  xLTShinySidesx
 UNOBTANIUM INC
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 58
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:11:00 -
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 Skag Barron wrote:The Infected One wrote:I think that the academy, while a good idea in theory is absolutely stupid in its practice. CCP still doesn't have a fix for scrimish games counting stats unless you clone the other team. I have been playing since before the "Precursor" build, I have over 11 million SP, I reach the cap every week, continue playing once I reach the cap, I do not sit back and AFK, I average 20-30 kills a game and I hack everything worth points, blow up everything that I can, and because I find ambush boring before I reach my cap, I still sit with a KDR of 3.05 (KDR means nothing) 5000 WP, and around 8000 kills. 
 If they had fixed the stat counting issue before they instituted this WP limited academy, they would have far fewer "vets" playing with the new players, stomping them into the ground.
 Not sure how bragging about how wonderful you are at this game has to do with a glitch with a game mode for new players? 
 It's a legitimate argument, I played the first couple weeks of open beta in ambush only and I was new so wasn't very good, since those first two weeks I have played nothing but skirmish with the occasional ambush battle (once per week maybe)
 
 I'm not new anymore and don't wanna toot my own horn but I'm not horrible, however, my stats would tell you otherwise because skirmish stats don't count, that's a big problem.
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        |  Dregarian
 IMPSwarm
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:14:00 -
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 I want to afk with the big boys!
 
 /sarcasm
 /face-palm
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        |  Crash Monster
 Snipers Anonymous
 
 259
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:19:00 -
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 Yeah, I have to jump on the "give them a choice" bandwagon.
 
 Saying get in a squad is great if you aren't a new player and already know how to do that. Also, like others have said, whether it's an alt of a vet or it's a new player that doesn't want to swim in the kiddie pool -- it's appropriate to let them see the real thing from time to time (even if just to check on their own progress once in a while).
 
 I'd suggest this is more important than it sounds... as some folks won't appreciate being stuck in the kiddie pool.
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        |  howard sanchez
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 526
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:24:00 -
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 Laheon wrote:You can get in a squad with the "big boys" and go to war with them, completely bypassing the academy.
 That said, it would be nice if you had the option to go to war by yourself.
 Liiike, Faction War?
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Unclaimed.
 
 717
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:27:00 -
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 ladwar wrote:no you stay there like a good newberry. bad new beery trying to be a vet. pshh*goes and AFK*
 
 really... fix this bug/glitch thing
 
 
 
 
 lol, think that about sums up the difference between bitter vets and new guys
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        |  The Infected One
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 194
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.14 19:27:00 -
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 xLTShinySidesx wrote:Skag Barron wrote:The Infected One wrote:I think that the academy, while a good idea in theory is absolutely stupid in its practice. CCP still doesn't have a fix for scrimish games counting stats unless you clone the other team. I have been playing since before the "Precursor" build, I have over 11 million SP, I reach the cap every week, continue playing once I reach the cap, I do not sit back and AFK, I average 20-30 kills a game and I hack everything worth points, blow up everything that I can, and because I find ambush boring before I reach my cap, I still sit with a KDR of 3.05 (KDR means nothing) 5000 WP, and around 8000 kills. 
 If they had fixed the stat counting issue before they instituted this WP limited academy, they would have far fewer "vets" playing with the new players, stomping them into the ground.
 Not sure how bragging about how wonderful you are at this game has to do with a glitch with a game mode for new players? It's a legitimate argument, I played the first couple weeks of open beta in ambush only and I was new so wasn't very good, since those first two weeks I have played nothing but skirmish with the occasional ambush battle (once per week maybe) I'm not new anymore and don't wanna toot my own horn but I'm not horrible, however, my stats would tell you otherwise because skirmish stats don't count, that's a big problem.  
 I'm not telling you my stats to boast, I'm pointing out that by all rights, I shouldn't be able to play in this "newberry playground" but because CCP hasn't fixed a rather large issue, myself and other players are stuck being able to play in this area, and in some cases forced to because our stats haven't been counted properly. This really puts actual new players at an even higher disadvantage because its just our WP that is keeping us there, with the academy being our only option (scrimish heavy players) it doesn't really set up a good place for newer players to learn the game.
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