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cy6
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:47:00 -
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In a game where every decision you make is supposed to define your character, the one, most basic aspect of all, race, makes no difference in the game whatsoever when it should affect the game more drastically; in particular, with dropsuits.
What doesnt make sense to me is that you can choose a race, yet wear any other race's dropsuits besides your own? This doesnt make sense storywise. Lets say every race hates the Amarr, yet on the battlefield u see caldari, gallente and mins wearing amar assaut and heavy suits. What i would have liked to see is race specific suits and race specific battles (like caldari vs gallente) similar to MAG. In MAG, every faction hated each other so it created a sense of racial pride and an incentive to completely crush the opposition and i think CCP should have implemented a similar aspect. But now, since anyone can choose any dropsuit to specialize in, there is no "team spirit" to win, theres no pride, its just a binch of lone wolves on the battlefield pretending to work as a team.
However, I know CCP wont go in that direction, however, in the very least, i would like to see racial bonuses apply to only that race. For example if i was Caldari but wear Gallente suit, i DO NOT get the Assault or Logi bonus, but if i were Gallente and wore Gallente suits i DO get the bonus. This way, race sctually means something while having the option of investing into other racial suits if they want their slot lineup/cpu/pg/base stats. |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:02:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:Can i help if if im gallente and think amarr suits are sexy?
if you want team spirit just squad up with corp mates willing to all wear the same race of suit.
I understand where you are comming from. Amar have the sexiest looking dropsuit (dat trenchcoat), but at the same time, this isnt fashion514. We are at war and each faction hates each other to some degree but in-game it doesnt feel like that. I feels like recess time at an elementary school |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:21:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Mercenaries will use the best weapon for the job and kill whomever it pays the most to kill.
They are businessmen, not idealists.
Our loyalty is to the Almighty ISK. If you want loyalty, be prepared to pay for it.
While this may be true, when joining a match you dont see a "Corp A will pay X amount of ISK for beating the crap out of Corp B" Therefore, unless we start seeing this happen, then were are not really fighting for money are we? We are blindly shooting other players and wont know what our wage is until the end. In fact, what if a Corp hires you u to fight but only pays 100isk per kill but u didnt know this until the end once you get paid? there is a serious flaw here. |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:32:00 -
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Skihids wrote:nor asha wrote:Skihids wrote:Mercenaries will use the best weapon for the job and kill whomever it pays the most to kill.
They are businessmen, not idealists.
Our loyalty is to the Almighty ISK. If you want loyalty, be prepared to pay for it. Yeah but we still came out of a faction training program. We should know how to use our own suits. That makes logical sense, but you would be asking players to pick a suit based on lore before they saw the stats.
That is also a good point. But at the same time CCP's motto is you live with your mistakes (or some crap like that). |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:51:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Locking suits and factions by your chosen race is ******** and incredibly hard to balance unless all the assault/logi/heavy suits are the same across all races.
Also, my Caldari character in EVE flies Guardians and Scimitars often. It wouldn't make sense for us to be locked in DUST.
[edit] And OP, I really hope your "Raging Pack of Homos" corp is as into RP as you seem to be. Must be fabulous.
Race locking hard to balance is true. The only suit that is unbalanced now is caldari assault tanking bc there arent any good weapons against shield other than flux. And armor tanking would make gallenetes super slow unless all gallentes had a +% speed for armor mods. Other than that, the suits seem pretty balanced.
I dont play EVE so i dont understand please elaborate.
My corp name is just a corp name. No different from anyone else's so it is unfair for you to attack ins such an immature manner. Besides, whats wrong with being fabulous? Afterall we ARE playing Fashion514 |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:53:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:"Buy Amarrican,support your empire's dropsuit industry"
LOL'd pretty hard. Can i use this? |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:58:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Lore wise it makes sense that DUST mercs would lose their connection with a faction if not the entire human race.
Capsuleers wear custom clones and rarely die which allows them to remain connected to their past lives. Mercs on the other hand wear generic clones and jump several times per battle. After several months of that how could you even relate to mortals, much less identify with them?
We are far more likely to identify with each other, despite any internal rivalries. Killing each other isn't personal, it's just business. We are all going back to are MQ at the end of the day, so there is no reason we can't get together for a drink after the battle.
After years of battle and watching empires rise and fall we will feel outside it all. The factions created us to serve their ends, but we have become a new race apart from them with our own agenda. Watch the latest EVE trailer for the warning to mortals that we are rising up as a new superior race.
I suppose this is true. okay you got me. i retract what i said. sounds like a reallyreally boring life tho in-game. I cant see people playing this game for too long if that were the case. Like feeing outside of the box. |
cy6
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:05:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:@cy6: To the OP, I would agree with you but it prevents one thing. With that you would be locked into a certain race. CCP wants this to be a sandbox game. More than that, it's a game that offers flexibility. What if one day you choose that the race you chose (assuming based on your profile) that you hated the Amarr and their evil ways of enslaving the Minmatar and decide to join a freedom faction that fights for Minmatar? Under your system, you can't do that and would have to re-roll a character that was Minmatar. With the current system, you can simply switch over to using Minmatar suits, guns and equipment with no trouble and even carry your dark past with you. And trust me, there are some EVE players (and Dust players too) who are loyalists. In fact we had an EVE player not too long ago complaining that mercenaries from his alliance were fighting for the opposing team. Which we "gently" reminded him to HTFU and if you want your alliance to be loyal, force your mercs to fight for one side and if they defect, kick them from the alliance. And right now, it's just Empire factions. Wait until we start striding into null sec...
I get what you are saying. Maybe you should get a "racial traitor" tag on you somewhere. i wouldnt mind that |
cy6
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:16:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Keeriam Miray wrote:cy6 wrote: i would like to see racial bonuses apply to only that race. For example if i was Caldari but wear Gallente suit, i DO NOT get the Assault or Logi bonus, but if i were Gallente and wore Gallente suits i DO get the bonus. This way, race sctually means something while having the option of investing into other racial suits if they want their slot lineup/cpu/pg/base stats. Racial bonuses on dropsuit has nothing to do with your racial DNA, it depends on skills you learn & use. For example - you could born as Caldari (you like caldari type, face) but deep in your soul you may hate entire your race... and love Gallente ideology, life style, technology. You have role play story for your character don't you?
it gets you more involved into the game as opposed to run in and pew pew |
cy6
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:30:00 -
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This has been an enlightening thread. Thank you all for your input...except that douche that bagged on my corp for no apparrent reason. |
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