It has been said that the Imperfects favour quality over quantity but rarely do we elaborate on what that means. For a definition of quality, I am going to refer to the Ancient Greeks. In its day, Athens was the central nexus of rational thought. It was the sole sanctuary for philosophers in a world of barbarians. There, they knew about Quality. They called it "Arete".

Arete doesn't translate directly into English. It means quality, but it also means virtue and heroism. Interestingly enough, neither of these words mean what you think they might mean either!

Odysseus, the epitome of Greek heroism was not a damsel-saving, bad-guy-foiling, righteous do-gooder. He was actually a bit of a jerk, cheating on his wife, lying, spitting in the face of the Gods and just generally storming about the place stomping ALL of the faces. He was both a man and a beast (or a troll) and he celebrated both of these things and was celebrated FOR both of these things. He wasn't ashamed of his trolling, wild side; rather, he made it into one of his virtues. That is quality. It's acknowleding who and what you are and pursuing excellence in THAT.

These Athenians spent most of the month worshipping Apollo, who was pretty much in charge of light and reason and harmony and logically stated rational positions. Then, two days out of each moon, they were like "you know what, screw Apollo. You know who's awesome? Dionysus, god of PARTY HARD." They knew that a man has to romance his inner troll so they'd have massive freaking parties which consumed the whole city in a festival of drinking and dancing and drumming and chanting, which might involve massive amounts of violence and human sacrifice and generally just getting your freak on. They weren't just having a party, they were celebrating the parts of themselves that they spent the rest of their time suppressing. Their fear and anger and unrestrained desire. It wasn't just rebellious teens, either, participating in this. Basically everyone was out there flipping tables.

The Greek Hero understands that for proper functioning, this part of ourselves must be exercised. He balances the Apollonian and the Dionysian, the warrior and the philosopher, the nice guy and the scoundrel. Balance is found in accepting the ebb and flow. One side of this will always be favoured and it's in working towards this harmony that we acknowledge our imperfection. In the same way that Socrates was the wisest of men because he knew the limits of his knowledge, so are we the elite in acknowledging our imperfection and fully embrace the natures of our members.

It has been said that the Imperfects favour quality over quantity but rarely do we elaborate on what that means. For a definition of quality, I am going to refer to the Ancient Greeks. In its day, Athens was the central nexus of rational thought. It was the sole sanctuary for philosophers in a world of barbarians. There, they knew about Quality. They called it "Arete".

Arete doesn't translate directly into English. It means quality, but it also means virtue and heroism. Interestingly enough, neither of these words mean what you think they might mean either!

Odysseus, the epitome of Greek heroism was not a damsel-saving, bad-guy-foiling, righteous do-gooder. He was actually a bit of a jerk, cheating on his wife, lying, spitting in the face of the Gods and just generally storming about the place stomping ALL of the faces. He was both a man and a beast (or a troll) and he celebrated both of these things and was celebrated FOR both of these things. He wasn't ashamed of his trolling, wild side; rather, he made it into one of his virtues. That is quality. It's acknowleding who and what you are and pursuing excellence in THAT.

These Athenians spent most of the month worshipping Apollo, who was pretty much in charge of light and reason and harmony and logically stated rational positions. Then, two days out of each moon, they were like "you know what, screw Apollo. You know who's awesome? Dionysus, god of PARTY HARD." They knew that a man has to romance his inner troll so they'd have massive freaking parties which consumed the whole city in a festival of drinking and dancing and drumming and chanting, which might involve massive amounts of violence and human sacrifice and generally just getting your freak on. They weren't just having a party, they were celebrating the parts of themselves that they spent the rest of their time suppressing. Their fear and anger and unrestrained desire. It wasn't just rebellious teens, either, participating in this. Basically everyone was out there flipping tables.

The Greek Hero understands that for proper functioning, this part of ourselves must be exercised. He balances the Apollonian and the Dionysian, the warrior and the philosopher, the nice guy and the scoundrel. Balance is found in accepting the ebb and flow. One side of this will always be favoured and it's in working towards this harmony that we acknowledge our imperfection. In the same way that Socrates was the wisest of men because he knew the limits of his knowledge, so are we the elite in acknowledging our imperfection and fully embrace the natures of our members.

I don't think this belongs in this forum section.

It can be moved, then. That's what we're paying these mods for.

It's not really a declaration of war, either, so ill fits the War Room. It's just the opening to a general discussion.

You guys are so full of yourselves and for no good reason either.

Arete doesn't translate directly into English. It means quality, but it also means virtue and heroism. Interestingly enough, neither of these words mean what you think they might mean either!

I thought Arete refered to the asthetic quality of conflict/battle/struggle where two opponents are evenly matched and skillfull matching blow for blow demonstrating thier art and as a consiquence giving spectators a visual treat.

part 1? oh no is there a part 2?

Not yet. I have to talk to a friend in more detail about the imperfection/transience angle of Wabi Sabi and related concepts.

That would be your imaginary friend I'm guessing....

Being bad and being good at being bad?

It has been said that the Imperfects favour quality over quantity but rarely do we elaborate on what that means. For a definition of quality, I am going to refer to the Ancient Greeks. In its day, Athens was the central nexus of rational thought. It was the sole sanctuary for philosophers in a world of barbarians. There, they knew about Quality. They called it "Arete".

Arete doesn't translate directly into English. It means quality, but it also means virtue and heroism. Interestingly enough, neither of these words mean what you think they might mean either!

Odysseus, the epitome of Greek heroism was not a damsel-saving, bad-guy-foiling, righteous do-gooder. He was actually a bit of a jerk, cheating on his wife, lying, spitting in the face of the Gods and just generally storming about the place stomping ALL of the faces. He was both a man and a beast (or a troll) and he celebrated both of these things and was celebrated FOR both of these things. He wasn't ashamed of his trolling, wild side; rather, he made it into one of his virtues. That is quality. It's acknowleding who and what you are and pursuing excellence in THAT.

These Athenians spent most of the month worshipping Apollo, who was pretty much in charge of light and reason and harmony and logically stated rational positions. Then, two days out of each moon, they were like "you know what, screw Apollo. You know who's awesome? Dionysus, god of PARTY HARD." They knew that a man has to romance his inner troll so they'd have massive freaking parties which consumed the whole city in a festival of drinking and dancing and drumming and chanting, which might involve massive amounts of violence and human sacrifice and generally just getting your freak on. They weren't just having a party, they were celebrating the parts of themselves that they spent the rest of their time suppressing. Their fear and anger and unrestrained desire. It wasn't just rebellious teens, either, participating in this. Basically everyone was out there flipping tables.

The Greek Hero understands that for proper functioning, this part of ourselves must be exercised. He balances the Apollonian and the Dionysian, the warrior and the philosopher, the nice guy and the scoundrel. Balance is found in accepting the ebb and flow. One side of this will always be favoured and it's in working towards this harmony that we acknowledge our imperfection. In the same way that Socrates was the wisest of men because he knew the limits of his knowledge, so are we the elite in acknowledging our imperfection and fully embracing the natures of our members.

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Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.

... possibly some virulent form of syphilis, from all their sexing.

I'm Spartan, so I just laugh at the fruity Athenian story.

lol, you think the Spartans were less into homo-eroticism? Got bed news for you dude.

It has been said that the Imperfects favour quality over quantity but rarely do we elaborate on what that means. For a definition of quality, I am going to refer to the Ancient Greeks. In its day, Athens was the central nexus of rational thought. It was the sole sanctuary for philosophers in a world of barbarians. There, they knew about Quality. They called it "Arete".

Arete doesn't translate directly into English. It means quality, but it also means virtue and heroism. Interestingly enough, neither of these words mean what you think they might mean either!

Odysseus, the epitome of Greek heroism was not a damsel-saving, bad-guy-foiling, righteous do-gooder. He was actually a bit of a jerk, cheating on his wife, lying, spitting in the face of the Gods and just generally storming about the place stomping ALL of the faces. He was both a man and a beast (or a troll) and he celebrated both of these things and was celebrated FOR both of these things. He wasn't ashamed of his trolling, wild side; rather, he made it into one of his virtues. That is quality. It's acknowleding who and what you are and pursuing excellence in THAT.

These Athenians spent most of the month worshipping Apollo, who was pretty much in charge of light and reason and harmony and logically stated rational positions. Then, two days out of each moon, they were like "you know what, screw Apollo. You know who's awesome? Dionysus, god of PARTY HARD." They knew that a man has to romance his inner troll so they'd have massive freaking parties which consumed the whole city in a festival of drinking and dancing and drumming and chanting, which might involve massive amounts of violence and human sacrifice and generally just getting your freak on. They weren't just having a party, they were celebrating the parts of themselves that they spent the rest of their time suppressing. Their fear and anger and unrestrained desire. It wasn't just rebellious teens, either, participating in this. Basically everyone was out there flipping tables.

The Greek Hero understands that for proper functioning, this part of ourselves must be exercised. He balances the Apollonian and the Dionysian, the warrior and the philosopher, the nice guy and the scoundrel. Balance is found in accepting the ebb and flow. One side of this will always be favoured and it's in working towards this harmony that we acknowledge our imperfection. In the same way that Socrates was the wisest of men because he knew the limits of his knowledge, so are we the elite in acknowledging our imperfection and fully embracing the natures of our members.

That would be your imaginary friend I'm guessing....

It has been said that the Imperfects favour quality over quantity but rarely do we elaborate on what that means. For a definition of quality, I am going to refer to the Ancient Greeks. In its day, Athens was the central nexus of rational thought. It was the sole sanctuary for philosophers in a world of barbarians. There, they knew about Quality. They called it "Arete".

Arete doesn't translate directly into English. It means quality, but it also means virtue and heroism. Interestingly enough, neither of these words mean what you think they might mean either!

Odysseus, the epitome of Greek heroism was not a damsel-saving, bad-guy-foiling, righteous do-gooder. He was actually a bit of a jerk, cheating on his wife, lying, spitting in the face of the Gods and just generally storming about the place stomping ALL of the faces. He was both a man and a beast (or a troll) and he celebrated both of these things and was celebrated FOR both of these things. He wasn't ashamed of his trolling, wild side; rather, he made it into one of his virtues. That is quality. It's acknowleding who and what you are and pursuing excellence in THAT.

These Athenians spent most of the month worshipping Apollo, who was pretty much in charge of light and reason and harmony and logically stated rational positions. Then, two days out of each moon, they were like "you know what, screw Apollo. You know who's awesome? Dionysus, god of PARTY HARD." They knew that a man has to romance his inner troll so they'd have massive freaking parties which consumed the whole city in a festival of drinking and dancing and drumming and chanting, which might involve massive amounts of violence and human sacrifice and generally just getting your freak on. They weren't just having a party, they were celebrating the parts of themselves that they spent the rest of their time suppressing. Their fear and anger and unrestrained desire. It wasn't just rebellious teens, either, participating in this. Basically everyone was out there flipping tables.

The Greek Hero understands that for proper functioning, this part of ourselves must be exercised. He balances the Apollonian and the Dionysian, the warrior and the philosopher, the nice guy and the scoundrel. Balance is found in accepting the ebb and flow. One side of this will always be favoured and it's in working towards this harmony that we acknowledge our imperfection. In the same way that Socrates was the wisest of men because he knew the limits of his knowledge, so are we the elite in acknowledging our imperfection and fully embracing the natures of our members.

Here I was thinking you saying you're quitting the forums meant we wouldn't hear more lame stuff from you.

Disappointed....

Maybe try with your news feed again that didn't really report on anything. I think that had more interesting information :P

Aw, man. That hurts. I thought TSOLE and I were bros

Ahh, only part of what I said is true, call it a case of jealousy because you turned to the dark side.

It has been said that the Imperfects favour quality over quantity but rarely do we elaborate on what that means. For a definition of quality, I am going to refer to the Ancient Greeks. In its day, Athens was the central nexus of rational thought. It was the sole sanctuary for philosophers in a world of barbarians. There, they knew about Quality. They called it "Arete".

Arete doesn't translate directly into English. It means quality, but it also means virtue and heroism. Interestingly enough, neither of these words mean what you think they might mean either!

Odysseus, the epitome of Greek heroism was not a damsel-saving, bad-guy-foiling, righteous do-gooder. He was actually a bit of a jerk, cheating on his wife, lying, spitting in the face of the Gods and just generally storming about the place stomping ALL of the faces. He was both a man and a beast (or a troll) and he celebrated both of these things and was celebrated FOR both of these things. He wasn't ashamed of his trolling, wild side; rather, he made it into one of his virtues. That is quality. It's acknowleding who and what you are and pursuing excellence in THAT.

These Athenians spent most of the month worshipping Apollo, who was pretty much in charge of light and reason and harmony and logically stated rational positions. Then, two days out of each moon, they were like "you know what, screw Apollo. You know who's awesome? Dionysus, god of PARTY HARD." They knew that a man has to romance his inner troll so they'd have massive freaking parties which consumed the whole city in a festival of drinking and dancing and drumming and chanting, which might involve massive amounts of violence and human sacrifice and generally just getting your freak on. They weren't just having a party, they were celebrating the parts of themselves that they spent the rest of their time suppressing. Their fear and anger and unrestrained desire. It wasn't just rebellious teens, either, participating in this. Basically everyone was out there flipping tables.

The Greek Hero understands that for proper functioning, this part of ourselves must be exercised. He balances the Apollonian and the Dionysian, the warrior and the philosopher, the nice guy and the scoundrel. Balance is found in accepting the ebb and flow. One side of this will always be favoured and it's in working towards this harmony that we acknowledge our imperfection. In the same way that Socrates was the wisest of men because he knew the limits of his knowledge, so are we the elite in acknowledging our imperfection and fully embracing the natures of our members.

You do remember you're playing a video game, right? EVE may have loads of silly space-politics, but this is just... Yeah.

It's already been established that there's a secret message in that tl;dr. Someone called me on it right away.

So it belongs in your corp forums then?

But GLiMPSE X wins the thread, alas, with +2 for the finer rhetoric. Plus he quotes better in 10 second soundbites.

@Mithridates Do you not realize you are in IMPswarm? not Imprefects. They don't believe you're good enough lol

Why Should I care!
I'm a noob i barely understand the game i wasted a lot of Skill Points in wrong books and skills i go negative every game and i live in Middle East i never met anyone from your clan.

I'm interested in your newsletter and would like to subscribe to your views

fixed for everyone

-_- zzzzzz...h...huh

o.O?

O.o? ......meh

-_- zzzzzz

Cool story... But... Why r u imperfect though?

I think the hidden meaning is that all Imps are trolls and you are proud of it. Wasn't that hidden tbh, you basically said it outright in the third paragraph.

Ten points to Gryffindor if you figure out what the actual message in the OP is.

That you guys are pro at being the most hated/respected/discussed corp in the game?

That cultivating such an excellent cult of personality is an art form that you guys could teach a master class on?

That you have taken a page from pro wrestling and applied it flawlessly to your in game persona? The imps have a business model and they stick to it...is that the message?

Do I get my points now?

Or did you actually mean if anyone ever figured out my main toon they'd all be bowing at my feet instead? I'm pretty sure that was in the OP but it was actually right next and slightly at an angle to what was in between the lines. Whatever...the fact that every imp post turns in to a threadnaught is a complete coincidence and all you imps are scrubs.

Or everyone else is sheep, not sure which. Whatever the case may be rest assured that someone out there needs to get on my level.

Cool story... But... Why r u imperfect though?

Is there actually going to be a part two or are you just yanking our collective chains?

No, there really is. I think I mentioned somewhere that part two is based on eastern philosophy.

Is it weird that I'm actually looking forward to it?