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Number 799
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:52:00 -
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20% less cpu and pg then give them -20% pg and cpu usage on equipment |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:54:00 -
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:47:00 -
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No. That is not even a worthy suggestion.
It seems as though your brain may have spilled on the keyboard and wiping it up caused the OP to be written. That must be it. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:52:00 -
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Lower the CPU/PG and give a bonus to equipment use. Logistical suits are not front line fighters and if the suits are being used that way then they are broken. These suits should be good at one role but not much more. I understand that the logi uses equipment that is resource hungry but that doesn't mean they have to be the best suit it just means that the logi should have bonuses that focus on equipment. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:55:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Lower the CPU/PG and give a bonus to equipment use. Logistical suits are not front line fighters and if the suits are being used that way then they are broken. These suits should be good at one role but not much more. I understand that the logi uses equipment that is resource hungry but that doesn't mean they have to be the best suit it just means that the logi should have bonuses that focus on equipment. WHY ARE YOU AFTER ALL LOGIS???????????? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.14 09:55:00 -
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The Robot Devil
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:11:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Lower the CPU/PG and give a bonus to equipment use. Logistical suits are not front line fighters and if the suits are being used that way then they are broken. These suits should be good at one role but not much more. I understand that the logi uses equipment that is resource hungry but that doesn't mean they have to be the best suit it just means that the logi should have bonuses that focus on equipment. WHY ARE YOU AFTER ALL LOGIS????????????
I am not after all logi but broken is broken. If the suit is as dominant as it is made out to be then the lowering of suit resources and giving more bonuses to equipment is the best way to fix a broken problem. If the logi is a better assault suit than the assault suit then the logi suit is broken. People should not be using logi suits as slayers, logi suits are for being a logi and not much more.
By allowing a logi to perform the same role as an assault we have made the assault suits useless and to me that means it's broken. I don't fly logi ships to an engagement unless someone needs logistical support.
Give a few good reasons why a logi should be better at fighting than an assault suit. Good reasons that make sense, follow lore and promote a balance between suits and races. |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:14:00 -
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Guys even I made this thread. Look at every single eve ship with this issue 8 years ago.
They started adding role bonuses to fix this ****. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Astarte
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage and 7.5% bonus to Armor Repairer effectiveness per level
Command Ships Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage and 10% bonus to Medium Hybrid turret falloff per level
Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need
The logi and the assualt should have the same pg/cpu END OF STORY |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:17:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Lower the CPU/PG and give a bonus to equipment use. Logistical suits are not front line fighters and if the suits are being used that way then they are broken. These suits should be good at one role but not much more. I understand that the logi uses equipment that is resource hungry but that doesn't mean they have to be the best suit it just means that the logi should have bonuses that focus on equipment. WHY ARE YOU AFTER ALL LOGIS???????????? I am not after all logi but broken is broken. If the suit is as dominant as it is made out to be then the lowering of suit resources and giving more bonuses to equipment is the best way to fix a broken problem. If the logi is a better assault suit than the assault suit then the logi suit is broken. People should not be using logi suits as slayers, logi suits are for being a logi and not much more. By allowing a logi to perform the same role as an assault we have made the assault suits useless and to me that means it's broken. I don't fly logi ships to an engagement unless someone needs logistical support. Give a few good reasons why a logi should be better at fighting than an assault suit. Good reasons that make sense, follow lore and promote a balance between suits and races. They're not better at fighting than the assaults, they have the potential to be tankier. Assauts have ****y bonuses that don't play to their role: slaying. Punishing a suit class because of one suit is steer excrement and it needs to stop. Unless you like that extra 2% reload speed. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:19:00 -
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Man, I hope they let us keep the jar when CCP neuters us...
Hope they don't take my super OP hacking bonus that's arguably only good for one ****ing game mode.... |
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crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:21:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Man, I hope they let us keep the jar when CCP neuters us...
Hope they don't take my super OP hacking bonus that's arguably only good for one ****ing game mode.... They don't need to remove any bonuses they just need to make it so logis get to equip stuff in the equipment slots for basically free, so they can use all 4 without being unbalancing when they are left empty. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:42:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Lower the CPU/PG and give a bonus to equipment use. Logistical suits are not front line fighters and if the suits are being used that way then they are broken. These suits should be good at one role but not much more. I understand that the logi uses equipment that is resource hungry but that doesn't mean they have to be the best suit it just means that the logi should have bonuses that focus on equipment. WHY ARE YOU AFTER ALL LOGIS???????????? I am not after all logi but broken is broken. If the suit is as dominant as it is made out to be then the lowering of suit resources and giving more bonuses to equipment is the best way to fix a broken problem. If the logi is a better assault suit than the assault suit then the logi suit is broken. People should not be using logi suits as slayers, logi suits are for being a logi and not much more. By allowing a logi to perform the same role as an assault we have made the assault suits useless and to me that means it's broken. I don't fly logi ships to an engagement unless someone needs logistical support. Give a few good reasons why a logi should be better at fighting than an assault suit. Good reasons that make sense, follow lore and promote a balance between suits and races. They're not better at fighting than the assaults, they have the potential to be tankier. Assauts have ****y bonuses that don't play to their role: slaying. Punishing a suit class because of one suit is steer excrement and it needs to stop. Unless you like that extra 2% reload speed.
This sounds like an assault suit problem as well as a logi problem. I am not saying that the bonuses need to be nerfed I am saying that the resources need to be reworked and an extra bonus given to offset the resource reallocation. The entire suit structure across all races should be looked at and the bonuses assigned to each adjusted to bring them into racial harmony. |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:53:00 -
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That does not balance Logis at all. What you are trying to do is to take the logi out of the assault role, but that is not the way to do it. A much better option would be to :
1. reduce all their high/slow slots by 1 2. Increase ALL Logisuit and Equipment CPU/PG so that only logis can use them 3. Give each logi an extra equip slot so they can carry 1 repair tool, 1 needle, and multiple nanohives for assault support but ONLY IF removing the 1 equip slot on assaults so they cannot be a mini logi.
This way, the Logi serves a completely supportive role while assaults are the killing machines |
The Robot Devil
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:15:00 -
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cy6 wrote:That does not balance Logis at all. What you are trying to do is to take the logi out of the assault role, but that is not the way to do it. A much better option would be to :
1. reduce all their high/slow slots by 1 2. Increase ALL Logisuit and Equipment CPU/PG so that only logis can use them 3. Give each logi an extra equip slot so they can carry 1 repair tool, 1 needle, and multiple nanohives for assault support but ONLY IF removing the 1 equip slot on assaults so they cannot be a mini logi.
This way, the Logi serves a completely supportive role while assaults are the killing machines
I disagree with number two because if the suit has an equipment slot then a merc should be able to put any tool they want there. Logi type gear is general purpose use to other suits where as a logi survives on them and the gear should not be taken away from non logi suits. Logi gear provides a source of SP and WP, helps out logi suits and benefits the entire team, we shouldn't take these tools away from out teams. |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:28:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:cy6 wrote:That does not balance Logis at all. What you are trying to do is to take the logi out of the assault role, but that is not the way to do it. A much better option would be to :
1. reduce all their high/slow slots by 1 2. Increase ALL Logisuit and Equipment CPU/PG so that only logis can use them 3. Give each logi an extra equip slot so they can carry 1 repair tool, 1 needle, and multiple nanohives for assault support but ONLY IF removing the 1 equip slot on assaults so they cannot be a mini logi.
This way, the Logi serves a completely supportive role while assaults are the killing machines I disagree with number two because if the suit has an equipment slot then a merc should be able to put any tool they want there. Logi type gear is general purpose use to other suits where as a logi survives on them and the gear should not be taken away from non logi suits. Logi gear provides a source of SP and WP, helps out logi suits and benefits the entire team, we shouldn't take these tools away from out teams.
I dont understand. I want logis to have more cpu/pg than they already have. I also want equipment to be more cpu/pg heavy so only logis can use them. by doing so,,u wont get assaults stealing the role of the logistics (which is the reviver, repairer, hacker and ammo supplyer)
also no, logi suits are not GENERAL suits. those are the basic medium suits |
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