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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1052
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:51:00 -
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Really, I don't see the point in having large maps. At these ranges a COD sized map would suffice.
"Lets make huge maps that take minutes to traverse, but make the weapons have super low range so battles are always CQC!"
There needs to be variety in engagement ranges, not just Long range snipers and close range everything else.
If you are so afraid of people snipnig each other with AR's, you can maybe add bullet drop, or make the recoil and kick impossible to control at long ranges and damage be tiny. |

Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
967
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Really, I don't see the point in having large maps. At these ranges a COD sized map would suffice.
"Lets make huge maps that take minutes to traverse, but make the weapons have super low range so battles are always CQC!"
There needs to be variety in engagement ranges, not just Long range snipers and close range everything else.
I don't think you know what CQC is.
Nova Knives and melee are CQC.
Sidearms and shotguns are short range
Light weapons (except Swarm Launchers and Sniper Rifles) and HMG's are mid range (I routeinely kill people at 50 meters with an AR (in US standard that is about 164 feet)
Forge Guns, Swarm Launchers, and Sniper Rifles are long range. |

Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:57:00 -
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What's the point in you posting a new thread every 5 minutes? |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1052
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:57:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Really, I don't see the point in having large maps. At these ranges a COD sized map would suffice.
"Lets make huge maps that take minutes to traverse, but make the weapons have super low range so battles are always CQC!"
There needs to be variety in engagement ranges, not just Long range snipers and close range everything else. I don't think you know what CQC is. Nova Knives and melee are CQC. Sidearms and shotguns are short range Light weapons (except Swarm Launchers and Sniper Rifles) and HMG's are mid range (I routeinely kill people at 50 meters with an AR (in US standard that is about 164 feet) Forge Guns, Swarm Launchers, and Sniper Rifles are long range. lol If that's what you call medium range then sorry, but Dust ranges are ****** up. CQC is pretty much what matches are relegated into. Close range is everything else. There is no medium range in this game. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1056
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:58:00 -
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Re-FLeX wrote:What's the point in you posting a new thread every 5 minutes? What's the point of posting if you're going to copy paste the same thing that 9000 other people said? |

TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:59:00 -
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I think they envision something other than two blobs farming each other.
By making maps bigger and spacing objectives out more, you'll have need for strategy. Maybe need a loaded dropship to quickly go to the other side of the map while another squad takes a much closer objective. |

Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
207
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:00:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:What's the point in you posting a new thread every 5 minutes? What's the point of posting if you're going to copy paste the same thing that 9000 other people said?
What's the point in replying when you cannot take a hint? |

Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
59
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:01:00 -
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I'd guess the large maps are a 'solution' to the spawning issues of last build. Enemy now has to run further to get to you. |

Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
258
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:01:00 -
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Because we don't need clusterf***s. 32 player battles and you want to make it COD sized?
Oh and there's a large group of players that enjoy traversing through a map, and in fact a good number of them think the maps are too small. We don't need action every single second, and bigger maps provide us with more tactical decisions on how to attack and defend, rather then simply shooting someone every step you take. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1056
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:01:00 -
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Re-FLeX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:What's the point in you posting a new thread every 5 minutes? What's the point of posting if you're going to copy paste the same thing that 9000 other people said? What's the point in replying when you cannot take a hint? Alright, lets see. 9000 other people gave me that "hint". I didn't care those times. Why should I care with yours? Get lost. |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1056
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:03:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Because we don't need clusterf***s. 32 player battles and you want to make it COD sized?
Oh and there's a large group of players that enjoy traversing through a map, and in fact a good number of them think the maps are too small. We don't need action every single second, and bigger maps provide us with more tactical decisions on how to attack and defend, rather then simply shooting someone every step you take. That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying that the ranges are so ridiculously small that the maps might as well be COD maps. I want maps to be larger, and I want ranges to be longer than rock throwing range. |

Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
207
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:What's the point in you posting a new thread every 5 minutes? What's the point of posting if you're going to copy paste the same thing that 9000 other people said? What's the point in replying when you cannot take a hint? Alright, lets see. 9000 other people gave me that "hint". I didn't care those times. Why should I care with yours? Get lost.
Well, you should care... you're making a fool out of you, your corp and..... oh wait lololol betamax nevermind. |

Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
258
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Because we don't need clusterf***s. 32 player battles and you want to make it COD sized?
Oh and there's a large group of players that enjoy traversing through a map, and in fact a good number of them think the maps are too small. We don't need action every single second, and bigger maps provide us with more tactical decisions on how to attack and defend, rather then simply shooting someone every step you take. That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying that the ranges are so ridiculously small that the maps might as well be COD maps. I want maps to be larger, and I want ranges to be longer than rock throwing range. Ranges are fine, I don't want to be shot at by some dude with an AR at a completely different base. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1056
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:06:00 -
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Re-FLeX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:What's the point in you posting a new thread every 5 minutes? What's the point of posting if you're going to copy paste the same thing that 9000 other people said? What's the point in replying when you cannot take a hint? Alright, lets see. 9000 other people gave me that "hint". I didn't care those times. Why should I care with yours? Get lost. Well, you should care... you're making a fool out of you, your corp and..... oh wait lololol betamax nevermind. Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1056
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:08:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Because we don't need clusterf***s. 32 player battles and you want to make it COD sized?
Oh and there's a large group of players that enjoy traversing through a map, and in fact a good number of them think the maps are too small. We don't need action every single second, and bigger maps provide us with more tactical decisions on how to attack and defend, rather then simply shooting someone every step you take. That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying that the ranges are so ridiculously small that the maps might as well be COD maps. I want maps to be larger, and I want ranges to be longer than rock throwing range. Ranges are fine, I don't want to be shot at by some dude with an AR at a completely different base. You won't, because the dude might get the first shot off, but recoil and kick will do their job. Considering it takes quite a lot of bullets to take someone down in Dust, you have plenty of time to take cover and return fire. |

Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
229
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:09:00 -
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Re-FLeX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:What's the point in you posting a new thread every 5 minutes? What's the point of posting if you're going to copy paste the same thing that 9000 other people said? What's the point in replying when you cannot take a hint? Alright, lets see. 9000 other people gave me that "hint". I didn't care those times. Why should I care with yours? Get lost. Well, you should care... you're making a fool out of you, your corp and..... oh wait lololol betamax nevermind. Well, your corp is the bastard child of Betamax so... |

Freshticles
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
86
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:09:00 -
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CoD Merc strikes again. Wait, weren't you in PRO. |

Deadeye Dic
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots.
Hmmm....in the last 3 days I have seen 4 or so posts concerning Imps and...wait for it....wait for it...not one post about Beta-Max....I'd say someone cares
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1057
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:12:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots.
Hmmm....in the last 3 days I have seen 4 or so posts concerning Imps and...wait for it....wait for it...not one post about Beta-Max....I'd say someone cares lol, that's Imps trying to stay relevant. In case you didn't notice, they are obvious alts. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1057
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:12:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:CoD Merc strikes again. Wait, weren't you in PRO. Fresh test1cles strikes again. And PRO didn't fit in my time zone. |
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lllIIIlI IIIlIl
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots.
Hmmm....in the last 3 days I have seen 4 or so posts concerning Imps and...wait for it....wait for it...not one post about Beta-Max....I'd say someone cares lol, that's Imps trying to stay relevant. In case you didn't notice, they are obvious alts. I didn't notice. |

Deadeye Dic
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots.
Hmmm....in the last 3 days I have seen 4 or so posts concerning Imps and...wait for it....wait for it...not one post about Beta-Max....I'd say someone cares lol, that's Imps trying to stay relevant. In case you didn't notice, they are obvious alts.
The only person I see trying to show relevance is you, with your whiny QQ posts every 5 minutes...grow up you big baby. |

Freshticles
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
86
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:16:00 -
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Fail, that pun is obviously intentional. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1057
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:16:00 -
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lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots.
Hmmm....in the last 3 days I have seen 4 or so posts concerning Imps and...wait for it....wait for it...not one post about Beta-Max....I'd say someone cares lol, that's Imps trying to stay relevant. In case you didn't notice, they are obvious alts. I didn't notice. Your name. It scares me. |

Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
215
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:17:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots.
Hmmm....in the last 3 days I have seen 4 or so posts concerning Imps and...wait for it....wait for it...not one post about Beta-Max....I'd say someone cares lol, that's Imps trying to stay relevant. In case you didn't notice, they are obvious alts.
We have always stayed relevant, wether you like it or not that is not up to your opinion to decide.... Betamax on the other hand became irrelevant after its split a few months ago. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1057
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:17:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Deadeye Dic wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Sigh, if you would know what people think of your corp... You people are the biggest fools, you think anyone cares about you? Really I couldn't find a single person who didn't think you are idiots.
Hmmm....in the last 3 days I have seen 4 or so posts concerning Imps and...wait for it....wait for it...not one post about Beta-Max....I'd say someone cares lol, that's Imps trying to stay relevant. In case you didn't notice, they are obvious alts. The only person I see trying to show relevance is you, with your whiny QQ posts every 5 minutes...grow up you big baby. So you prefer to have the game stay broken? |

SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
13
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:18:00 -
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Hmm... Everyone complaining about CQC seems to forget that Shotguns, SMGs, and Nova Knives are part of this game. Last build these were significantly disadvantaged because of the sheer power and range of ARs plus the Laser Rifles. In several matches a "No man's zone" was actually created that made it very difficult to close distance and be effective.
If you want to have your old range, maybe what they should do is increase my shotgun, smg, and give nova knife a lounging charge.
Obviously that's a stupid idea. I much prefer this build. I see ARs still doing the best (which they always will), but I also see a more diverse selection of weapons, from Heavy weapons, to the CQC stuff, to everything in between. Well except laser rifles... i don't see those anymore. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1057
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:21:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Hmm... Everyone complaining about CQC seems to forget that Shotguns, SMGs, and Nova Knives are part of this game. Last build these were significantly disadvantaged because of the sheer power and range of ARs plus the Laser Rifles. In several matches a "No man's zone" was actually created that made it very difficult to close distance and be effective.
If you want to have your old range, maybe what they should do is increase my shotgun, smg, and give nova knife a lounging charge.
Obviously that's a stupid idea. I much prefer this build. I see ARs still doing the best (which they always will), but I also see a more diverse selection of weapons, from Heavy weapons, to the CQC stuff, to everything in between. Well except laser rifles... i don't see those anymore. This isn't about AR's. Why is it that when weapon ranges are brought up people always think its only about the AR >_> I think all weapons need a range boost, and shotgun/SMG need it too, as currently they have laughable range. And Nova Knives lounging might be just what we need considering they're still annoying to use because you can't sprint with them and hit detection is somehow worse for them. |

Deadeye Dic
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:21:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: So you prefer to have the game stay broken?
Broken is a relative term. Stop pretending you speak for everyone.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
445
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:22:00 -
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Hi Cat,
If you actually *used* the forums in the way that I hope you do (I see you post often enough), you will have seen that CCP are working on the range issue. They're removing the hard cap, admittedly not the extension of range you were hoping for, but that may be because of the small maps (compared to what they have envisioned). I can imagine that in the future, they'll expand weapon ranges in accordance to map sizes, as most features they want to put in aren't even in the game yet.
Furthermore, there's a fairly well known saying. If one person calls me an idiot, I tell them to screw themselves. If two people call me an idiot, I tell them both to screw themselves. If three people call me an idiot, then maybe I am an idiot. Just food for thought. Maybe stop posting threads every 5 minutes because no one's actually interested in reading the same old **** over and over again, rather than because you think you need to be heard. |
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