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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.13 18:48:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
CCP, I'm pleading with you to actually promote your game And/Or do not use EVE online's Promotions team because in general they are even worse in the North American market for promotion.
CCP knows better.
You can slap some makeup on a pile of sh*t but underneath it is still a pile of sh*t.
If they can get PC to succeed they may look into running that commercial, but until then they need to replace this pile of sh*t with a decent game. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.05.13 18:50:00 -
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Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Buster Friently wrote:IMHO, PVE needs to be in before any major push is done anyway. Players already have the wrong idea that dust is supposed to be just a lobby based shooter. It isn't. While I think it's kind of funny to watch reactions as more RPG elements are added, we don't need a huge influx of players now. We might want them once all the core features are in.
Also, word of mouth marketing is actually the best. Double plus for it being cheap.
I love DUST don't get me wrong and I will most likley be flamed for saying this but it IS a lobby shooter. Its a massive, lore rich, persistant lobby shooter. and I love it all the same
It currently is a lobby shooter. That's my point. It won't stay there. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.05.13 18:51:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Buster Friently wrote:IMHO, PVE needs to be in before any major push is done anyway. Players already have the wrong idea that dust is supposed to be just a lobby based shooter. It isn't. While I think it's kind of funny to watch reactions as more RPG elements are added, we don't need a huge influx of players now. We might want them once all the core features are in.
Also, word of mouth marketing is actually the best. Double plus for it being cheap.
So should they wait to advertise Dust until they get PVE in Dust ?
I think so, but then again, I don't work for CCP. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.13 18:56:00 -
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You remember back when Fallout 3 came out, and places like Game Stop got the big fallout guy?
Yea, think that, but DUST. Same goes for those card board displays that you get as a retailer where you just put the thing together and it's all 3D and awesome. Posters, little hangy thingys, you name it, they make it.
The problem is a big push like that is expensive, and needs to have a good ROI or it's pretty much pointless.
DUST isn't at the point where a large market push would retain enough people and hence spread and grow quicker. It still needs work, the financial plan is clearly still being worked on, and it's just too SOON (tm) for a move like that, in my opinion. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.13 19:06:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Buster Friently wrote:IMHO, PVE needs to be in before any major push is done anyway. Players already have the wrong idea that dust is supposed to be just a lobby based shooter. It isn't. While I think it's kind of funny to watch reactions as more RPG elements are added, we don't need a huge influx of players now. We might want them once all the core features are in.
Also, word of mouth marketing is actually the best. Double plus for it being cheap.
I love DUST don't get me wrong and I will most likley be flamed for saying this but it IS a lobby shooter. Its a massive, lore rich, persistant lobby shooter. and I love it all the same It currently is a lobby shooter. That's my point. It won't stay there.
But it will it will be a lobby shooter with drones and persistant planets....
until I turn DUST on one day get out of bed open the MQ door and jump a shuttle down to the surface for a walk about with my mates it'll be a looby shooter but thats fine because it'll be the best fukin looby shooter the world has ever seen :P |
Bethhy
Not Guilty
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.13 19:19:00 -
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Cpt Murd0ck wrote:
Completely untrue, I have been to plenty major game retailers and they usually don't know jack about games. At best they will have some knowledge on basic stuff of major titles.
(Employee of any gaming store)
"Right so your looking for an RPG have you tried COD?"
"Right so your looking for an MMO with rich lore and a dedicated community have you thought about BF3"
"Hmm An FPS you want, let me think about it..."
"oh wait have you tried this free game called DUST that we dont sell"
Spot the most unlikely quote :P
Sure there is always exceptions to any case, but in majority its vastly adverse to your case. Specially in gaming exclusive stores, there is even endless lore in TV, movies and books though not completely accurate to real life... there is certain merit to it.
World of warcraft even though a free download and completely able to handle a game purchase transaction with no third party vendor offered a download CD for 2 dollars USD, that sat on counters to promote the product... also marketing the product to some people with large download bandwidth limits.
The fact is that a majority of us aren't marketing "wiz'es" who know the most efficient marketing means to spend any companies money. But game launch is upon us and there is barely any noise, a DUST 514 themed PSN card... a Downloader CD in stores.. and that does not help the company or the players to grow the player base. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.13 19:32:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Buster Friently wrote:IMHO, PVE needs to be in before any major push is done anyway. Players already have the wrong idea that dust is supposed to be just a lobby based shooter. It isn't. While I think it's kind of funny to watch reactions as more RPG elements are added, we don't need a huge influx of players now. We might want them once all the core features are in.
Also, word of mouth marketing is actually the best. Double plus for it being cheap.
So should they wait to advertise Dust until they get PVE in Dust ?
Maybe. They definitely need something more accessible with more content for new players to get into and fell like they are progressing.
You want new players to feel like they are doing well and comfortable with good gear before they can venture out to get trucked by better players. Then they are like whoa... well I got to get that and that and I will pay or put in the time to get that stuff because all of this is so cool.
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