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THE GREY CARDINAL
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Posted - 2013.05.13 04:11:00 -
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I hope that the sollution is isolated to the Caldari suit alone. I have seen calls for logi-wide nerfs to everything from slots, CPU/PG to light weapons.
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THE GREY CARDINAL
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Posted - 2013.05.13 05:58:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:Aside from the lul caldari bonus, the other problem is really the pg CPU issue. Ccp did a terrible job assigning those values and besides the rather broken amarr assault, every other race has to give up one two slots for fitting modules even at perfect skills to fully use and best fit suits. With the logi suits you just fit as needed and leave an equipment slot empty, or low quality fitted and make the hp disparity even larger than just the small bump from caldair logi bonus.
It's a catch 22 for ccp, they'll always need more CPU pg because of equip slots, instead they should drop other slots to avoid making them so desirable above assault suits. I really think a lot of the changes we've seen in uprising have been CCP laying the groundwork for new weapons, and modules we'll be seeing soon.Gäó If you have no idea what I'm talking about look up some EWAR modules in EVE Online. I think they're trying to shoehorn scouts into being target painters and logis to be EMCs and Tacklers. Just my 0.2 ISK...
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THE GREY CARDINAL
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Posted - 2013.05.13 05:59:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:Aside from the lul caldari bonus, the other problem is really the pg CPU issue. Ccp did a terrible job assigning those values and besides the rather broken amarr assault, every other race has to give up one two slots for fitting modules even at perfect skills to fully use and best fit suits. With the logi suits you just fit as needed and leave an equipment slot empty, or low quality fitted and make the hp disparity even larger than just the small bump from caldair logi bonus.
It's a catch 22 for ccp, they'll always need more CPU pg because of equip slots, instead they should drop other slots to avoid making them so desirable above assault suits. I really think a lot of the changes we've seen in uprising have been CCP laying the groundwork for new weapons, and modules we'll be seeing soon.Gäó If you have no idea what I'm talking about look up some EWAR modules in EVE Online. I think they're trying to shoehorn scouts into being target painters and logis to be EMCs and Tacklers. Just my 0.2 ISK...
Yeah this is spot on. EW is going to be a huge part of DUST 514. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:51:00 -
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Cosgar wrote: In b4 "Tackling is OP!"
I hope the Webifier is an active high slot module or equipment that has a 40-60m range, 8.5m radius at max level and is reusable like injectors for -30-50% movement speed. I might actually give up my light weapon slot for that lol. What do you think?
I always envisioned it as a repair type device that could lock on and slow someone down for X ammount of seconds >:D. I can't imagine how they will implement it but I hope that it's a piece of equipment. I went Galente logi proto banking on the hope that CCP would give us lots of cool new toys to play with.
I'm looking forward to the EW suite of features A LOT! I'm a big fan of this side of combat and can't wait to be scrambling minimaps, blocking voice comms and giving my squad superior intel. :D |
THE GREY CARDINAL
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:01:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Tolen Rosas wrote:Logis dont need high and low slots to do their jobs. Like I said, offer facts or SFTU, like the fact that if it wasn't for it's bonus, the Cal Logi would need the extra slot just to tie with the assault suit in the HP department. You want to strip them of slots, give them the same base stats as an assault suit so that the only difference is the side arm vs equipment, because that is in fact the only difference aside from the creative freedom of further customizing your fit. If again you cannot comprehend why the logi fighting alongside you needs the same amount of health as you then you need to STFU, you know nothing about balance or role. they are combat medics, not redline medics, they need just as much surviveability as you if they're going to be of any use. That's also why the Amarr suit is the worst logi, it's the most fragile. Stop trying to turn logis into your personal babysitters.
Why don't some people get this?
Nanite injectors aren't yet dployed through a blowdart gun so we actually have come to your underfire bleeding out ass to save you. If you want healing we have to be 15-30m away. If you want 105HP/s armor regen I have to be 10m away.
Those who suggest taking away slots can just bleed out on the battlefield for all I care. I'd just get gunned down and ignorant people just aren't worth the ISK risk involved in bringing them back with 80% armour. :) |
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