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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:18:00 -
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Actually, it is true.
Caldari Logi is overpowered, waay above any other Logi, however assaults are pointless in comparison to logi.
Any sane assault would go the logi path, because whatever "disadvantages" they have, the extra slots make up for them, and the equipment slots let them stay versatile, while not sacrifising firepower what so ever.
In comparison, the Assault is like the basic suit....
Oh wait, it is the basic suit, with some worthless passives >_>
Face it logis, your suit can output the same DPS, have the same tank, AND you have 3 equipment slots.
Also easier to fit, and have inherent armor regeneration.
Sigh, how much I would love to have it for my Gallente basic/assault suit. |
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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:31:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:So logi's are op because they got good bonus's and assaults didn't? Buff the assault give it viable bonus's first.
No amount of passive bonuses, unless its HUGE, is going to fix it.
It also means that at level 1 Logi/Assault, Logis are superior.
Trust me, I would go Logi any day unless there is a significant buff coming to assaults.
And I mean SIGNIFICANT. |
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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:38:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Say for example the Cal logi lost its silly bonus and the assault got a bonus like +2% dam per level for assault and then some kind of racial bonus as well would you still go logi?
Probably.
I would slap on a complex damage mod, and I get to keep equipment slots.
Which means nanohives, nanite injectors and utility like the scanner.
If it was 15%, and the racial bonuses were good, then I would go assault.
Because it means the Logi has to give up two slots to get comparable damage, in which case losing two equipment slots sounds about right. |
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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:47:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:Say for example the Cal logi lost its silly bonus and the assault got a bonus like +2% dam per level for assault and then some kind of racial bonus as well would you still go logi? Probably. I would slap on a complex damage mod, and I get to keep equipment slots. Which means nanohives, nanite injectors and utility like the scanner. If it was 15%, and the racial bonuses were good, then I would go assault. I stole that idea from a thread belonging to Logi Bro I cant remember if it was +2% or 3% to be honest and the racial bonus's he came up with were pretty good something like that making all the suits useable would be better than just blanket nerfs in my opinion. You just know the Cal logi is OP but if the entire class gets nerf'd its just a question of whats next on the list to nerf back to the stone age.
Scout needs a buff.
Heavy is about right.
Assault either needs a buff or Logi needs a nerf.
So nerfing logi's won't do much.
Also, I suggest keeping the inherent bonuses (Logi HP regen, Assault damage) constant.
As in its not a bit every level, it will be at 100% straight from level 1.
So Logi at level 1 gets 5hp/s, assault at level 1 gets 15% damage.
That way this change will keep the suits balanced between each other at all levels.
The racial bonuses will stay a per level thing. |
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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:56:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:More crazy ideas coming in.Nguruthos IX wrote:My dropship forces me to use two turrets or else "INVALID FITTING".
Sucks more CPU/PG than I might like. I assume that's there for balance
The assault dropship forces Three turrets or else I can't make a single fitting.
Why can't this apply to Logi's dropsuits and might it prevent the Super-Assault troops that logis now can be? Again, how are all the logis the problem? 
Same DPS output, same Tanking possibility (yes, all Logi's, not just the assault) and 3 equipment slots at the price of... a sidearm that I don't even put on my suit anyway to fit better gear?
Also, inherent armor regeneration.
So basically, you do everything the assault does better. |
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Posted - 2013.05.13 10:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Tolen Rosas wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Actually, it is true.
Caldari Logi is overpowered, waay above any other Logi, however assaults are pointless in comparison to logi.
Any sane assault would go the logi path, because whatever "disadvantages" they have, the extra slots make up for them, and the equipment slots let them stay versatile, while not sacrifising firepower what so ever.
In comparison, the Assault is like the basic suit....
Oh wait, it is the basic suit, with some worthless passives >_>
Face it logis, your suit can output the same DPS, have the same tank, AND you have 3 equipment slots.
Also easier to fit, and have inherent armor regeneration.
Sigh, how much I would love to have it for my Gallente basic/assault suit. this post right here needs to be stickied for the slow to comprehend. Logis dont need high and low slots to do their jobs. they need equipment. large amount of slots just makes them a an anomaly that can carry equipment and be the best assault class simultaneously. the 'buff assaults' debate fails hard. assaults are fine. the problem is that the logi suits are better than their assault counterparts. its also not just the caldari so stop saying it. the gallente will have the same problem when they add armor mods that dont affect movement. no amount of QQ threads will change the fact that anyone who can read knows to pick a bumblebee suit and a tactical AR if they want to do well. CCP will address it, you dont have to like it. And on that day, the ****ing nerf witch hunt will continue. What do you think is next? Heavies are almost back to their former glory, they could use another nerf bat to the knees again. Too soon? Why not the Minmatar Scout? He's doing well, making speed tanking a thing and all. Oh, I know, Tanks! Everyone hates tanks, right? Oh wait, they just got another ****ing ninja nerf and their circuitry skills are bugged so they barely have the PG to equip half their modules. Mass Drivers? Nope, they "fixed" the MD and called it helping us. Hmmm, what's left to nerf... Dropshi- nah, I can't even joke about them.  Everything has has been the Nancy Kerigan to CCP's Tonya Harding... what.. can.. we... nerf... Oh! I know! Let's nerf the Assaults next! Pffft! Hahahaha! Yeah right, CCP will never nerf the Assaults. They need them to bring in the CoD, BF, Halo crowd. You see what I'm getting at? For 2 years, this game has been degraded from an arms race to a nerf war and the line has to be drawn somewhere. I say here and now, we draw it at logistics! We've been sitting here discussing several threads on how to make the assaults better and I'll be damned if they nerf my logibee because of a bunch of butthurt assaults and a CPM member that generalized an entire suit class. I'm not going to take it lying down. When this game updates tomorrow and that night the forums are filled with Caldari logis QQing about the scrambler rifle, remember what happened for the past few days. Stop the nerfing. We need the meta game to be about the game and not circlejerking a about what needs to be nerfed on these goddamned forums.
I know 3 cod players who looked at the stats and decided that logi is superior.
Your argument is invalid.
You are almost certainly an assault who specced into the logi just because its better, or just plain stupid.
If you can't see how superior the logi is in every way, whatever you say is invalid. |
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