DUST Search - Why does the entire Logistics class have to be nerfed?

Cosgar wrote:

BL4CKST4R wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

If the Scrambler Rifle vs CaLogi war begins next week and the rifle doesn't wind up getting nerfed, Dust 514 will finally be in good shape. Right now all we have are a bunch of QQing tryhards used to being dominant in AAA FPS that don't understand things like effective counters, meta gaming and counter play. Instead they want what their using to be the best in the game and everything else around it to be nerfed to novelty. This is the absolute reason why Dust 514 has been screwed up for the past 2 years. Those are the people who are never happy and no matter how much you cater to them, they never will be happy. CCP needs to focus on building a middleground between an FPS and EVE, which for the exception of chrome, they've done excellently and may finally have that balance in uprising once weapons get teaked to compete with the AR.

CCP, stop catering to the "hardcore" FPSers. They're all going to leave when the next CoD comes out anyway.

The fact that a gun has to be made specifically to kill 1 class is ridiculous, I also highly doubt that they are making it for the purpose of killing Caldari logistics. There is nothing wrong with the Logistics, or the Assault suits, the only problem is the Caldari Logistics and their racial bonus. A quick fix without nerfing their bonus is to remove or lower the movement penalty from armor plates.

It's not made for one class it's made to counter shield tankers since they still have a slight advantage against armor. There are already plenty of EM weapons in the game that melt shields: Scrambler Pistol, Laser, Sniper Rifles, Forge Guns, and Flux grenades. The scrambler rifle is just going to even the playing field out more because there isn't a true mid range weapon to counter shields yet. It's all about rock, paper, scissors but with shields, EM, armor, Kinetics, and Hybrids.... you get the point I hope.


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BL4CKST4R WarRavens Orion Empire 47	Posted - 2013.05.13 00:59:00 - [1] - Quote I think all Suits should be given a job specific bonus, + Damage modifiers for Assault, + efficiency with equipment for logis, + defense for heavies <- heavies have a low amount of high and low power slots, + I have no clue for scouts. I feel that my suit choice should be aesthetic.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens Orion Empire 47	Posted - 2013.05.13 01:57:00 - [2] - Quote Cosgar wrote: If the Scrambler Rifle vs CaLogi war begins next week and the rifle doesn't wind up getting nerfed, Dust 514 will finally be in good shape. Right now all we have are a bunch of QQing tryhards used to being dominant in AAA FPS that don't understand things like effective counters, meta gaming and counter play. Instead they want what their using to be the best in the game and everything else around it to be nerfed to novelty. This is the absolute reason why Dust 514 has been screwed up for the past 2 years. Those are the people who are never happy and no matter how much you cater to them, they never will be happy. CCP needs to focus on building a middleground between an FPS and EVE, which for the exception of chrome, they've done excellently and may finally have that balance in uprising once weapons get teaked to compete with the AR. CCP, stop catering to the "hardcore" FPSers. They're all going to leave when the next CoD comes out anyway. The fact that a gun has to be made specifically to kill 1 class is ridiculous, I also highly doubt that they are making it for the purpose of killing Caldari logistics. There is nothing wrong with the Logistics, or the Assault suits, the only problem is the Caldari Logistics and their racial bonus. A quick fix without nerfing their bonus is to remove or lower the movement penalty from armor plates.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens Orion Empire 47	Posted - 2013.05.13 02:27:00 - [3] - Quote Cosgar wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Cosgar wrote: If the Scrambler Rifle vs CaLogi war begins next week and the rifle doesn't wind up getting nerfed, Dust 514 will finally be in good shape. Right now all we have are a bunch of QQing tryhards used to being dominant in AAA FPS that don't understand things like effective counters, meta gaming and counter play. Instead they want what their using to be the best in the game and everything else around it to be nerfed to novelty. This is the absolute reason why Dust 514 has been screwed up for the past 2 years. Those are the people who are never happy and no matter how much you cater to them, they never will be happy. CCP needs to focus on building a middleground between an FPS and EVE, which for the exception of chrome, they've done excellently and may finally have that balance in uprising once weapons get teaked to compete with the AR. CCP, stop catering to the "hardcore" FPSers. They're all going to leave when the next CoD comes out anyway. The fact that a gun has to be made specifically to kill 1 class is ridiculous, I also highly doubt that they are making it for the purpose of killing Caldari logistics. There is nothing wrong with the Logistics, or the Assault suits, the only problem is the Caldari Logistics and their racial bonus. A quick fix without nerfing their bonus is to remove or lower the movement penalty from armor plates. It's not made for one class it's made to counter shield tankers since they still have a slight advantage against armor. There are already plenty of EM weapons in the game that melt shields: Scrambler Pistol, Laser, Sniper Rifles, Forge Guns, and Flux grenades. The scrambler rifle is just going to even the playing field out more because there isn't a true mid range weapon to counter shields yet. It's all about rock, paper, scissors but with shields, EM, armor, Kinetics, and Hybrids.... you get the point I hope. This makes sense I get it, I just wish it counted as a hybrid since using it as an assault wont get any bonuses.