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undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:47:00 -
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So what if instead of nerfing we balanced the tac....
Increase optic zoom to a 6x zoom.
What this does= increase recoil slightly, reduced viability in cqc, and increases long range usability.
Increase hip fire weapon spread
Whay this does = forces the user to stay at range and in the weapons actual role, also forces the user to switch to a side arm in cqc heavily damaging caldari cko users ability to tank and spam tac for easy mode.
This to me seems like a very viable and easy fix that wont permanently damage the weapons usability.
All other stats would remain the same.
What do you TAR users think? |
undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:53:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:So what if instead of nerfing we balanced the tac....
Increase optic zoom to a 6x zoom.
What this does= increase recoil slightly, reduced viability in cqc, and increases long range usability.
Increase hip fire weapon spread
What this does = forces the user to stay at range and in the weapons actual role, also forces the user to switch to a side arm in cqc heavily damaging caldari cko users ability to tank and spam tac for easy mode.
This to me seems like a very viable and easy fix that wont permanently damage the weapons usability.
All other stats would remain the same.
What do you TAR users think? I like this idea. It would have to be less zoom than a sniper, but I've often found that the current scope it more akin to todays red dot scope, which is used for cqc
Yes thats an important difference ill add it in. |
undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:55:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Lower the ROF / cap the ROF fire. How is it possible to shoot it faster than a fully auto AR??  People defending this gun the way it is...man I swear.
Did you not read my post? You dont need to nerf it when you can balance it.... rof is nothing people will still be able to spam shots... but with an increased scope zoom (recoil) and hip fire weapon spread it wont matter.... the gun will be peperfectly balanced. |
undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:There is a thing called hip fire which is super effective with this gun.
Please read tje post before commenting.
INCREASED HIP FIRE SPREAD!
Enough of an increase to make it a non viable weapon for cqc, combined with an increased zoom= non cqc weapon best kept at range giving us perfect weapon balance. |
undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 17:03:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Lower the ROF / cap the ROF fire. How is it possible to shoot it faster than a fully auto AR?? People defending this gun the way it is...man I swear. Did you not read my post? You dont need to nerf it when you can balance it.... rof is nothing people will still be able to spam shots... but with an increased scope zoom (recoil) and hip fire weapon spread it wont matter.... the gun will be peperfectly balanced. I can hipfire that thing quite effectively at medium range, so cqc is great and I use D3! Imagine how the mkb users can hipfire?! Adding a stronger scope means they have better zoom over range...I don't see how this is a way to balance something. Ever played lolBF3? x8 scope on an SKS still rapes at any range. Not because the gun is "hard" to use
Increased zoom means increased recoil which means less rof due to not being an accurate weapon trying to spam 10 shots a second AT ANY RANGE.
Do you really think if you had an 8x zoom on the tac ar you would be able to spam shots at someone at around 120 meters...? I doubt it. |
undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 17:18:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:There is a thing called hip fire which is super effective with this gun. Please read tje post before commenting. INCREASED HIP FIRE SPREAD! Enough of an increase to make it a non viable weapon for cqc, combined with an increased zoom= non cqc weapon best kept at range giving us perfect weapon balance. lol So you wanna make the gun useless then. I'll the list the things that makes this gun appealing, and we'll see what DUST top players will QQ over when its nerfed. - ROF (faster than a fully auto AR) - Meh recoil (very controllable if you know what you're doing) - 60 bullet magazine - Essentially an ACOG scope ( x4 ) - Good hipfire - 80+ dmg (duvolle tact) ^ these things that are currently making this gun stand head and shoulders above anything. I suggest capping ROF cuz it doesn't affect the ability to hipfire. It's a skill that people should be allowed to use. The damage won't matter so long as the ROF affects the DPS good enough. Recoil can stay the same. The scope can stay the same as it'll help people in CQC situations if their hipfire isn't great. But you wanting to add a stronger scope I don't see how that is a nerf tbh. Increasing hipfire is a strong nerf for a gun that relies on skill. Again, if you lower ROF, you can't spam the trigger in CQC, but get to show off your skill...since people are saying it's a skillful gun now...yeeeaa spamming R1 isn't a skill.
Ok so once again you fail to see what the tac ar is supposed to be.
Im pretty sure its supposed to be used at long to medium range....
The fact that it is good in cqc ( which requires 0 skill at all) is a mistake on ccp's part. This option that I proposed will fix the tac's ability to be viable in cqc forcing the player to use the weapon as intended in long to medium range encounters.
As for increased zoom it will add a good amount of recoil and force players to lower their rof and not spam and pray like they do now.
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undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 17:31:00 -
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Your argument is valid but what kind of rof nerf are we talking about? Like 500-600? |
undeadsoldier90
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Posted - 2013.05.12 17:47:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Your argument is valid but what kind of rof nerf are we talking about? Like 500-600? That's a tricky one. Don't wanna make the gun useless. Maybe nerfing the ROF to make the DPS SLIGHTLY lower than the Duvolle AR might be a way to go. Sacrificing some DPS for extra range, or when the range is not capped, the tact will have less dmg drop off. It should be a trade players have to make. Like shields, or stopping power? It should be range or power. Because of a slower ROF, the recoil won't be as bad, it does allot of dmg still, it has range, and hipfire. I don't know if that's a big enough ROF change, but in the end it's up to CCP.
Well if ccp does nerf rof I hope its in that 500-600 range any lower than that and it might be broken lol |
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