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          Harpyja 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.05.12 04:25:00 -
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          It has occurred to me multiple times where I get hit by swarms but there were no tracers/models at all except for the explosions and damage indicator. Really annoying because I can't see where they're coming from so I can act accordingly. | 
      
      
      
          
          ladwar 
          Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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        Posted - 2013.05.12 10:37:00 -
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          they are annoying | 
      
      
      
          
          Psychotic Shooter 
          Opus Arcana Orion Empire
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        Posted - 2013.05.12 10:51:00 -
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          I get this but when im fully in cover in my land base and they hit be from behind | 
      
      
      
          
          pegasis prime 
          The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.05.12 11:33:00 -
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          I hate the invisible swarms apparently it happens if one of the missiles hits something shortly after launch its mostly annoying as you cant see where they are and report thier position to your squad . It really needs fixed | 
      
      
      
          
          KalOfTheRathi 
          Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
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        Posted - 2013.05.12 11:34:00 -
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          Two items to note.
  First not everything is drawn with this release. It is an UnReal Engine 4 thing. Lets objects be more graphically complex but limits what has to be drawn. The basic limit is distance and in the case of the Swarmer you see nothing because it takes too long to adjust from not drawn to drawn as the missiles hit you.
  Second the missiles love to change course and go around corners. If the Swarmer got a lock on you, then they can shoot away from you and missile tracks will not give away his position as it only draws in the last bit (if that). So you can sit in your ground spawn and get swarmed without seeing the attacker nor the missile track.
  Fun. No is it not fun actually.
  Forge Guns can be a problem this was as well. You get vaporized but there is no direction indicator and the Kill Screen is the only way you can really tell what happened. Unless some clown with a Militia Scrambler Piston chimed in and confused the kill feed. | 
      
      
      
          
          Harpyja 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.05.21 03:29:00 -
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          Bump. This keeps happening to me at random times. I know that it's associated with not drawing the person who shot the swarms, but is still incredibly annoying. I've no idea where they are coming from. 
  I've even had to bail out of my tank and recall it because even when I think I'm safe, invisible swarms still hit me without any indication where they came from. I hate taking advantage of the recall system but currently I'm forced to do so in order to not lose ISK due to invisible swarms. | 
      
      
      
          
          Anthem Of Chaos 
          No-Mercy Get in the Van.
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        Posted - 2013.05.21 05:51:00 -
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          Harpyja wrote:Bump. This keeps happening to me at random times. I know that it's associated with not drawing the person who shot the swarms, but is still incredibly annoying. I've no idea where they are coming from. 
  I've even had to bail out of my tank and recall it because even when I think I'm safe, invisible swarms still hit me without any indication where they came from. I hate taking advantage of the recall system but currently I'm forced to do so in order to not lose ISK due to invisible swarms.  
  I'd like to confirm my mates and I have had this same issue multiple times, often the culprit can be found 150-200 meters away after some heavy searching but until we get extremely close the model doesn't render. | 
      
      
      
          
          ladwar 
          Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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        Posted - 2013.05.21 12:06:00 -
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          I can say that this happens at all ranges and it is getting very very annoying when you can't fight back because the person does not render either even at fairly close ranges (30-60m) and rails need farther rendering ranges they are the snipers of tanks but without the ability to see like a sniper. it would be bad if a sniper could only see at the range of TARs, why limit to this on rails? | 
      
      
      
          
          EnglishSnake 
          Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.05.21 12:16:00 -
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          It happens to me all the time
  Only time i see the missiles when im near the guy 
  If im far away it wont render the missiles | 
      
      
      
          
          Coleman Gray 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.05.21 12:54:00 -
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          Many times I've had this issue, I can't see the swarm launcher guys but they can see me!? thats really unfair, problem is we have this issue with ALL weapons ect not just swarm launchers. | 
      
      
      
          
          Harpyja 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.05.21 22:07:00 -
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          Coleman Gray wrote:Many times I've had this issue, I can't see the swarm launcher guys but they can see me!? thats really unfair, problem is we have this issue with ALL weapons ect not just swarm launchers.   I think it's most annoying with swarms because if it's anything else (other than a sniper rifle I'd assume), you're in 'normal' infantry combat range, while you can't do anything about invisible swarms in a vehicle other than hope you retreat to a safe place. | 
      
      
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