I like the idea where they take the L away and give them S slot.

People don't like the caldari logi because it can bring together all these great slaying/tanking abilities along with equip slots to boot right? So alongside with the slower speed (!), and no sidearm (only mitigated currently by tac ar's large amount of ammo), and lower base hp (making it cheaper with lower fitting cost to be an assault with comprable hp) why don't we also lower its PG/CPU? If we lowered it even a little, we would see people sacrificing to make either role, but not all work.

This is just an idea. I have seen many (I agree a viable one would simply be to leave the slots alone and buff other classes)
I've enjoyed dust51foruming lately and appreciated the positive support for changing the assault bonus to 1-2% increase in damage per level, just wanted to throw another out there.

LOGIS: overall bonus make equipment take 5% or 10% less CPU/PG per level. (Then also nerf CPU and PG by like 5%-10% overall to really encourage logistically play and not assault+1 play)
AMARR: 10% bonus to armor repair module and equipment effectiveness per level
MINMATAR: 5% bonus to hacking speed and DISTANCE.
CALDARI: 10% bonus to shield regen per level.
GALLENTE: 1 HP/s passive armor repair.
(Amarr really needs some love so adding 1 more low slot would definitely be good. Maybe removing 1 low on caldari but very optional)

ASSAULT: overall bonus 2% bonus to weapon damage.
AMARR: 10% bonus to weapon ammo capacity per level ( again amarr i can't figure them out. Though i think they bonus right now is silly)
MINMATAR: 5% bonus stamina regain and maximum amount.
CALDARI: 3% bonus to reload speed.
GALLENTE: 5% reduction to armor plate drawbacks. (actually making the gallente assault more viable as it's not gonna be soooo damm slow. Armor doesn't regenerate as fast as shield so might be a brick you meet at first engagement but with no bonusses to reppers they'll be slow at getting back to max HP. Also encourages to run with logi.
I think this would make assault way better but please i'm not perfect so please change something if you think i'm an idiot.

HEAVIES Overall bonus 4% bonus per level to resistance against small arms fire.
AMARR: I actually have no idea to be honest. I can't figure out what the main role / main tanking / main weapon of the amarr heavy is.

SCOUTS ....... i really haven't looked at scouts at all

Faster

Edit: though it seems you were right about the suits PG being 78, so I'll forgive you for being an idiot

Of course you could try and nerf the CPU PG on the Caldari suit and see how that works out, but that's unnecessary since people's biggest complaint stems from it's bonus; therefore, fix the bonus.

I was not trying to arguing that, I was arguing the minmatar logi bonus on speed made it on par with assaults.




I think the CPU/PG nerf would be intended on the caldari to ompensate for making it the potentially most slayer like on the logi variants (vs the gallente being the most pure logi)

They're all slayers, logis are not support roles, they're killers who can support.

And out of all the suits the Ammar is the most assault like.

The Caldari variant just needs it's bonus nerfed, 750 EHP from using nothing but extenders is ridiculous.

Assaults should get a damage bonus if they want to be real slayers and not just fancy basic suits.

Nerf this, nerf that...go **** up a rope.

Simple fix if CCP feels the need to cave to the most ludicrous QQ event I have experienced since I started the closed Beta nearly a year ago: make the fitting Invalid if the equipment slots are not used. Try running all those complex modules/weapons AND equipment even with the Logi's CPU/PG levels. I been running this fit for over six months and for any real Logi there are sacrifices you have to make.

Mandatory Equipment is all you need to "nerf" this class. Anyone who wants more than that has their own agenda in this ridiculous debate.