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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2013.05.11 21:32:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:Don't take the AR players last crutch away, they might actually have to play with "balanced weapons"  I am an AR user and I 100% agree. Its sad really that SOME of my fellow AR users are only out to exploit what ever they can. It doesn't matter what it is really, these same players will "cheat" no matter what any one says as they are unable to compete otherwise. There is no way to combat this as you can not control what other people do. The only thing to be done is come up with your own personal strategy to deal with it. And maybe suggest to CCP banning accounts and deleting characters If viable proof can be found that a said player is using a mod controller, or a lag switch for that matter. I am a capital punishment kind of person and these are just my opinions.
Ive actually tried it with my Eagle Eye controller that has a Turbo function on it while finding a solution to KB/M aim issues and i found that i can kill people much faster without auto-firing this weapon. My 95 rpm finger works much better.
Unless you actually tried auto-firing it, you have no idea about how ape that recoil gets...
People using Turbo buttons to negate any and all recoil on a duvolle are much worse then the people trying to control the Tac at full 975 rpm. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.05.11 21:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:We are 138 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:Don't take the AR players last crutch away, they might actually have to play with "balanced weapons" I am an AR user and I 100% agree. Its sad really that SOME of my fellow AR users are only out to exploit what ever they can. It doesn't matter what it is really, these same players will "cheat" no matter what any one says as they are unable to compete otherwise. There is no way to combat this as you can not control what other people do. The only thing to be done is come up with your own personal strategy to deal with it. And maybe suggest to CCP banning accounts and deleting characters If viable proof can be found that a said player is using a mod controller, or a lag switch for that matter. I am a capital punishment kind of person and these are just my opinions. Ive actually tried it with my Eagle Eye controller that has a Turbo function on it while finding a solution to KB/M aim issues and i found that i can kill people much faster without auto-firing this weapon. My 95 rpm finger works much better. Unless you actually tried auto-firing it, you have no idea about how ape that recoil gets... Any half decent player that's been playing FPS a while knows how to burst fire to control recoil. Not rocket science.
And at 8 rounds per half a second, after your first 2 rounds, you are hitting air...its sad that its gonna get nerfed because of people using or people thinking people are using Turbo buttons on it.
But i am waiting on the Scrambler Charge rifle semi auto version to 2 shot people at a 1.5s interval anyways, i am crap with burst fire weapons. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.05.11 21:46:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:As a TAR user myself, I think the rate of fire is ridiculous. I don't use a modded controller, but why on earth is the weapon capable of firing faster than a fully automatic?
I don't think the range or damage should be changed - they define its role. But when it also fires faster than the 'rapid fire' fully automatic weapons something is wrong, and it is eclipsing the role of other weapons. And that RIGHT there is the problem. A semi auto rifle capable of being fired faster than a fully auto. People who defend this...just lol 
they could change it to 150 rpm witch is i think the upper limit of what a finger can go, mine does 95 clicks a minute.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.05.11 21:55:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:And at 8 rounds per half a second, after your first 2 rounds, you are hitting air...its sad that its gonna get nerfed because of people using or people thinking people are using Turbo buttons on it.
But i am waiting on the Scrambler Charge rifle semi auto version to 2 shot people at a 1.5s interval anyways, i am crap with burst fire weapons. Nope. If you played games like lolBF3 you'll know how to control recoil with your right stick while firing. It's sad that it's gonna get nerfed? Not sure if serious  Its ROF is FASTER THAN A FULLY AUTO ASSAULT RIFLE. How is that even remotely "balanced" when it does 80 dmg lol I understand people like using crutch weapons, but geez! At least admit that it shouldn't be able to fire that fast.
I dont play with a controller so i wouldnt know how to control recoil with a stick....
I remember in APB R when they put in a low set of RPM for semi auto weapons, they started ghost firing because some people could produce allot of clicks fast and a semi shoots as fast as you can trigger it.
But there is pretty much noone that can actually squeeze 975 clicks in a minute out of his finger, they can easely check for turbo controllers if its pressing at a constant rate all the time at max velocity they could jam the gun after 4-6 shots.
I am not defending the gun, but you make it sound like we are all shooting 975 rounds a minute with it, witch means every 1.8 seconds we need to reload ....
My play style prefers semi weapons, in chromosone the Tac was a laughing stock unable to kill anyone, so i had to go with the regular version.
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ALSO has it come onto anyone's mind that if you can program a modded controllers rapid fire at just the right rate, it'll negate the harsh recoil you get when you hold down the fire button on an automatic. inb4 "o sh** gek and duvolle op again!"
The Tacs recoil isnt consitent with the thight grouping of the other assault rifles, it jumps randomly, i doubt that you can negate it completely like you can on the duvolle. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.05.11 22:06:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:And at 8 rounds per half a second, after your first 2 rounds, you are hitting air...its sad that its gonna get nerfed because of people using or people thinking people are using Turbo buttons on it.
But i am waiting on the Scrambler Charge rifle semi auto version to 2 shot people at a 1.5s interval anyways, i am crap with burst fire weapons. Nope. If you played games like lolBF3 you'll know how to control recoil with your right stick while firing. It's sad that it's gonna get nerfed? Not sure if serious Its ROF is FASTER THAN A FULLY AUTO ASSAULT RIFLE. How is that even remotely "balanced" when it does 80 dmg lol I understand people like using crutch weapons, but geez! At least admit that it shouldn't be able to fire that fast. I dont play with a controller so i wouldnt know how to control recoil with a stick.... I remember in APB R when they put in a low set of RPM for semi auto weapons, they started ghost firing because some people could produce allot of clicks fast and a semi shoots as fast as you can trigger it. But there is pretty much noone that can actually squeeze 975 clicks in a minute out of his finger, they can easely check for turbo controllers if its pressing at a constant rate all the time at max velocity they could jam the gun after 4-6 shots. I am not defending the gun, but you make it sound like we are all shooting 975 rounds a minute with it, witch means every 1.8 seconds we need to reload .... My play style prefers semi weapons, in chromosone the Tac was a laughing stock unable to kill anyone, so i had to go with the regular version. Quote:
ALSO has it come onto anyone's mind that if you can program a modded controllers rapid fire at just the right rate, it'll negate the harsh recoil you get when you hold down the fire button on an automatic. inb4 "o sh** gek and duvolle op again!"
The Tacs recoil isnt consitent with the thight grouping of the other assault rifles, it jumps randomly, i doubt that you can negate it completely like you can on the duvolle. I don't know where in the above quote I made it sound like everyone is using modded controllers, nor have i EVER said it was impossible for players to reach the speeds with just finger speed. That has NOTHING to do with the weapon being able to fire faster than a fully auto rifle. Oh btw, with a mouse, it's MUCH easier to control recoil 
I never said i had recoil issues either.
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