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NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2013.05.11 16:33:00 - [1] - Quote Exact stats, for the caldari suits. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=785807#post785807 No need to change anything other than the caldari logi bonus, though I would be willing to switch shield recharge delay with assault users and change the assault class bonus to damage bonus.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 314	Posted - 2013.05.11 16:43:00 - [2] - Quote William HBonney wrote: The recharge rate and the delay being better then assaults is very odd to me. It is. You would think that if a logi gets hit he should run, since they aren't as good at strafing as assault suits.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 315	Posted - 2013.05.11 17:46:00 - [3] - Quote William HBonney wrote: Ishould have 20% better base stats when talking about Hp regan and recharge rate They do, 25 is in fact 125% percent of 20, they just need better recharge delays.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 315	Posted - 2013.05.11 18:03:00 - [4] - Quote RKKR wrote: NeoWraith Acedia wrote: William HBonney wrote: The recharge rate and the delay being better then assaults is very odd to me. It is. You would think that if a logi gets hit he should run, since they aren't as good at strafing as assault suits. Guess what? Logis aren't as good at running too so give logis a speed-increasement and more stamina and we'll be better at running away before getting killed. I'm well aware of that, which is why I believe that the potential for more health/speed through slots is justified.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 317	Posted - 2013.05.11 18:21:00 - [5] - Quote I don't, just trying to explain to people that the suits aren't as OP as they claim, at least the suits that aren't the Caldari Logi.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 317	Posted - 2013.05.11 18:39:00 - [6] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: RKKR wrote: Guess what? Logis aren't as good at running too so give logis a speed-increasement and more stamina and we'll be better at running away before getting killed. cough Minmatar Logi cough cough Minmatar asault suit is still faster.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 317	Posted - 2013.05.11 18:49:00 - [7] - Quote William HBonney wrote: NeoWraith Acedia wrote: I don't, just trying to explain to people that the suits aren't as OP as they claim, at least the suits that aren't the Caldari Logi. Not OP, just not balanced. When the logi suit, in any racial variant can out tank and out damage its assault brother while having more equipment is a very bad thing. I wasn't saying you, just the people that think it is. As for out tank or out DPS The C logi can out tank the the assault suit, but only thanks to it's bonus. It can out DPS it as well, but not by much because of stacking bonuses, and even then it now has less HP and speed. The G logi, can either out speed or out tank it's counterpart, but never both. Forget how many high slots the assault suit has though, so I can't say anything about DPS. The A logi can never out tank or out DPS it's brother. It has the same slot count, but it's traded in speed and health for it's equipment. I don't remember the minmatar stats, but I'm pretty sure it has to choose between glass cannon and tanking. The Logis(except Amarr) are able to do lots of individual things better than their counterparts, but never at the same time. So they aren't "god " suits like some claim, they can just specialize further into certain roles. The caldari logi's bonus needs to get toned down though.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 317	Posted - 2013.05.11 19:16:00 - [8] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: An easier way to fix the balance between Assault and Logistics would be to swap the slots of each class Only if they swap base stats as well. The logi needs all those slots just to match an Assault players HP, it doesn't even make them any better.

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