DUST Search - Raw mouse input gets you the carrot, ccp.

Ric Barlom wrote:

So guys, I've been following this whole mouse and keyboard debate for quite some time now and I just wanted to give my thoughts on this issue. First let me just put it out there that I play Dust 514 with a DS3, never tried the mouse on this game, probably never will so I don't know how responsive the controls are at the moment. However I did play the original Counter Strike since the beta on PC, man, so I guess you could say I know a thing or two about the the differences between playing with a mouse vs a controller.

Now what worries me with this whole situation is that a lot of you guys in this thread are awesome players, I see you guys regularly dominate games with ease. And that's with suboptimal controls. I'm not saying it's easy to do that with mouse and keyboard though. I'm sure there are a lot of crappy mouse players out there too but, guys, even though I'm not a master with the DS3 by any means, I'm still fairly good with it and I know for a fact that I'd get absolutely slaughtered by a good player with perfect mouse and keyboard controls.

A lot of people say that perfect mouse controls isn't really an unfair thing, because everyone can use it. Sure, guys, it's not unfair and make no mistake about it, I'm gonna be here playing this game no matter what, and I don't give a **** if someone's controlling his character telepathically. That being said, though, I find it more enjoyably to play with a DS3, that's why I play my vide games mainly on my PlayStation and when I'm playing a PlayStation game, guys, I don't expect to be horribly handicapped just because I choose to play with the main input method of the system. Now before you guys get all pissed off at me, man, I know that it's not enjoyable at all to play with broken mouse/keyboard controls either, it probably sucks ass horribly! So at the end of the day, man, I've got no clue what should be done with this issue and I don't pretend to know which way is the better way for the game long term either. It's gonna take someone much smarter. I just hope that guy's working for CCP as we speak.


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Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 393	Posted - 2013.05.11 10:04:00 - [1] - Quote Balance is an illusion for players who need to comfort themselves in the poor decisions they choose to make. Add raw input.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 399	Posted - 2013.05.11 11:27:00 - [2] - Quote You can't reason with controller fanboys bro. They want to be rewarded for putting in no effort.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 400	Posted - 2013.05.11 11:46:00 - [3] - Quote Ric Barlom wrote: So guys, I've been following this whole mouse and keyboard debate for quite some time now and I just wanted to give my thoughts on this issue. First let me just put it out there that I play Dust 514 with a DS3, never tried the mouse on this game, probably never will so I don't know how responsive the controls are at the moment. However I did play the original Counter Strike since the beta on PC, man, so I guess you could say I know a thing or two about the the differences between playing with a mouse vs a controller. Now what worries me with this whole situation is that a lot of you guys in this thread are awesome players, I see you guys regularly dominate games with ease. And that's with suboptimal controls. I'm not saying it's easy to do that with mouse and keyboard though. I'm sure there are a lot of crappy mouse players out there too but, guys, even though I'm not a master with the DS3 by any means, I'm still fairly good with it and I know for a fact that I'd get absolutely slaughtered by a good player with perfect mouse and keyboard controls. A lot of people say that perfect mouse controls isn't really an unfair thing, because everyone can use it. Sure, guys, it's not unfair and make no mistake about it, I'm gonna be here playing this game no matter what, and I don't give a **** if someone's controlling his character telepathically. That being said, though, I find it more enjoyably to play with a DS3, that's why I play my vide games mainly on my PlayStation and when I'm playing a PlayStation game, guys, I don't expect to be horribly handicapped just because I choose to play with the main input method of the system. Now before you guys get all pissed off at me, man, I know that it's not enjoyable at all to play with broken mouse/keyboard controls either, it probably sucks ass horribly! So at the end of the day, man, I've got no clue what should be done with this issue and I don't pretend to know which way is the better way for the game long term either. It's gonna take someone much smarter. I just hope that guy's working for CCP as we speak. If you were a competitive gamer, you would go for mouse and keyboard. You already know its the better option, and that it raises the skill mountain and possibilities for good gameplay quite drastically. You are clearly not a competitive gamer as you have opted not to do that. Currently, console shooters are looked at as a joke by PC gamers because the skill mountain is flattened by the use of a controller. You may prefer it for comfort, but competition is not about comfort. It's about pushing yourself to do amazing things. I play this game because it has KB/M as an option, which tells me it is attempting to be an actual legitimate competitive shooter on a console. If it starts going in the opposite direction and nerfing KB/M, then it will simply be looked at as yet another joke of a shooter and us PC guys will keep walking. We have plenty of other options and are under no obligation to play a game that most console players won't touch due to its already declining reputation and a console gamers typically limited attention span towards slow development.