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General Grodd
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:09:00 -
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Are the assault ships worth it? I can fly very well and I know how to fit dropships, but I assume these are quite different lol. Or would my skill points and time be better spent somewhere else? |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
173
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:09:00 -
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Haha no |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
339
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:15:00 -
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Ha. I have half a mind to troll you and say yes. So you'd spend all the points and regret them forever.
However, seeing as how there will likely be a reset coming in a couple days I suppose you're safe to try them and find out for yourself.
Although after trying them I doubt you'll spec back into it.
Have fun! |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
5
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:19:00 -
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It's almost as if everyone understands the issues surrounding Dropships, but everytime someone tries to suggest fixes they slap them down with "wtf man you just want to make your vehicles OP and leave the infantry useless!" Which is never the case.... Dropships need fixing, and i wish CCP would do it |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.05.11 12:59:00 -
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Only for extremely specific purposes. If you are considering replacing your standard dropship with an assault dropship in public matches then no, don't do it. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1264
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Posted - 2013.05.11 13:24:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:It's almost as if everyone understands the issues surrounding Dropships, but everytime someone tries to suggest fixes they slap them down with "wtf man you just want to make your vehicles OP and leave the infantry useless!" Which is never the case.... Dropships need fixing, and i wish CCP would do it
At their core dropships are a team enhancing tool. Yes the new Assault class lets a pilot play lone wolf, but that is a small distraction from be main mission. It is there to serve infantry by helping them get to the fight more effectively and to provide close air support for an assault.
So why isn't the dropship working? Why aren't players clamoring for better ships so their pilots can do a better job of supporting them? Two main reasons:
1) An absence of teamwork and tactics, never mind higher level strategy. Lack of communication is the norm. The dropship multiplies teamwork, but pub matches don't have any. Zero times anything is still zero.
2) A lack of need for teamwork, tactics, and strategy. Public matches are simple mindless zergs to objectives with two teams chasing each other around the map. Maps are small and favor foot traffic. No need for tactics means no need for a tactical transport. There is no driver for use.
It's not the lack of pilot rewards. We pilots have been flying for months despite great mistreatment. It's the environment. When to changes players will see dropships as more than a target. They will see them as a tool every bit as important to them as their gun. As such they don't mind if the other guy has a strong ship if it means they can have one too. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2935
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Posted - 2013.05.11 13:33:00 -
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If you have 2 friends who play at the same time as you regularly, and go into things with the intent of air superiority, it can be useful.
If you want to operate as an anti-tank Dropship, it can also be viable.
If you want transport, anti-infantry or anti-LAV capabilities, the regular and/or Logi Dropships are probably better for you. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1515
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Posted - 2013.05.11 13:39:00 -
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What skihids said, dropships are all but useless in pub matches, as for corp matches no one has had a chance to test the new ADS yet, but I have doubts as to whether they'll be hugely useful. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1266
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Posted - 2013.05.11 16:34:00 -
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The gun camera operation makes targeting rather difficult at present. The camera stick is inverted from normal flight and is self centering.
The first goes against my reflexes and the second makes aiming finicky. Combined they make taking the ship onto the battlefield nearly futile.
I'm hoping that changes soon so the ADS becomes useful.
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I-X-I
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.05.11 17:25:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:It's almost as if everyone understands the issues surrounding Dropships, but everytime someone tries to suggest fixes they slap them down with "wtf man you just want to make your vehicles OP and leave the infantry useless!" Which is never the case.... Dropships need fixing, and i wish CCP would do it
Those "folks" are obviously not pilots. The ships now costs 2 million ISK if you want to have ANY chance of staying alive, and even then plan on losing TONS of ships because they are paper even with decent ISK invested your still easy to drop.
To make things worse AV got a 10% damage bonus. LAV's and HAV's have been given a serious HP buff because of this, but Dropships remain the same.
I have went through 20 million in the past few days "playing" around with them. Unless you have some serious cash flow stay away, far away. My play money is all gone LOL |
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Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2013.05.11 17:59:00 -
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General Grodd wrote:Are the assault ships worth it? I can fly very well and I know how to fit dropships, but I assume these are quite different lol. Or would my skill points and time be better spent somewhere else?
To break about twenty threads of wailing down to a sentence: Dropships will not be what they're supposed to be until bigger maps are deployed. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2013.05.11 18:10:00 -
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Not at all. I've spent about 15 mil already, all I've got to show for it are 19 kills, and a bunch of blown up turrets.
Completely useless, you're better off with LAV's or Tanks. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2013.05.11 18:11:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:General Grodd wrote:Are the assault ships worth it? I can fly very well and I know how to fit dropships, but I assume these are quite different lol. Or would my skill points and time be better spent somewhere else? To break about twenty threads of wailing down to a sentence: Dropships will not be what they're supposed to be until bigger maps are deployed.
Clueless.
Forge gun 2 hits equal one million ISK lost. There is no going around it. No WP mean you have to be desperate to make SP or ISK. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1267
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Posted - 2013.05.12 00:50:00 -
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Has anyone else been OHK'd to the tune of 9-26k HP damage? I've had that happen and the weapon area is blank so I have no idea what killed me.
It shows Remaining Armor and Remaining Shields as well as a distance (430m for the 26k) so I don't think it was the planet hitting me.
I'm really clueless as to what is hitting me with the power to kill four HAV's at once. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1529
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Posted - 2013.05.12 01:00:00 -
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In one match,I was sure it was some kind of glitch though, take off, get hit, die. In less than 30 seconds. |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
438
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Posted - 2013.05.12 01:14:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Has anyone else been OHK'd to the tune of 9-26k HP damage? I've had that happen and the weapon area is blank so I have no idea what killed me.
It shows Remaining Armor and Remaining Shields as well as a distance (430m for the 26k) so I don't think it was the planet hitting me.
I'm really clueless as to what is hitting me with the power to kill four HAV's at once. This deserves a separate bug report in Technical Support/Bugs.
Currently there is nothing besides something that looks like a small moon capable of producing that much damage while have a blank weapon name. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1529
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Posted - 2013.05.12 01:28:00 -
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(Start vent)
Just had something very bullshitty happen to me in a match, flying a python in the forward flight mode just above the ground, see an RDV coming straight at me. Veer hard to the right, did a half role, as I pass by the RDV cleary missing it, I get hit by collision damage, insta killed for nearly missing an RDV. My only assumption is that I brushed the RDV's hit box as I went by, pisses me off.
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