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Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:15:00 -
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Since everyone seems to be whining that Logis aren't being support, and want them nerfed into oblivion, here are some changes to make every other class "specialized."
1) No equipment slots for Heavy, Scout, and Assault. Equipment is meant to support! You guys aren't supposed to support!
2) Heavies can only use Heavy Weapons. They're not assault so why should they get an assault rifle?
3) No Assault weapons for Scouts either. Sniper and Shotguns only.
Anyone else got some more restrictions to make sure people play each class the "correct" way? |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:19:00 -
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Kleanur Guy wrote:But that's the beauty of Dust, there is no right way to play a class.
But you see, Logis aren't supposed to be able to be better at killing an assault than an assault! It's just wrong! |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:23:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:you're right it is wrong, they should not be better at straight up fighting than the class with ASSAULT as it's name.
Then Assaults shouldn't be able to support people :p
Why should any other class be allowed equipment slots? That's a Logi's job! |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:24:00 -
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Kleanur Guy wrote:Rorschach Mustang wrote:Kleanur Guy wrote:But that's the beauty of Dust, there is no right way to play a class. But you see, Logis aren't supposed to be able to be better at killing an assault than an assault! It's just wrong! Then why are you talking about nerfing other suits?
Because they shouldn't be able to be diverse either! Don't you see, a class doing anything directly outside it's class shouldn't happen in this game!
(in case it isn't clear, this is dripping with sarcasm... I'm trying to show how ridiculous forcing each class into a specialization is.) |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:25:00 -
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I know, but every solution I've seen hinders the entire class. Why? I have no idea... |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:28:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Rorschach Mustang wrote:Since everyone seems to be whining that Logis aren't being support, and want them nerfed into oblivion, here are some changes to make every other class "specialized."
1) No equipment slots for Heavy, Scout, and Assault. Equipment is meant to support! You guys aren't supposed to support!
2) Heavies can only use Heavy Weapons. They're not assault so why should they get an assault rifle?
3) No Assault weapons for Scouts either. Sniper and Shotguns only.
Anyone else got some more restrictions to make sure people play each class the "correct" way? I see where you're going, and 2 days ago I would have agreed. But the real problem is that the other suits are crap compared to the logi and the HMG needs some serious love right now. Buff the suits, the HMG give the second SP respec that we need because of bugged and misleading skills so heavies and assaults can go back to their respective classes and problem solved. Well, one problem at least. 
CCP is offering an optional respec next week sometime, so part of that problem is fixed. I do think that HMGs need a bit more buff. I used to fear them at short to mid range. That should always be the case. |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:30:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rorschach Mustang wrote:Since everyone seems to be whining that Logis aren't being support, and want them nerfed into oblivion, here are some changes to make every other class "specialized."
1) No equipment slots for Heavy, Scout, and Assault. Equipment is meant to support! You guys aren't supposed to support!
2) Heavies can only use Heavy Weapons. They're not assault so why should they get an assault rifle?
3) No Assault weapons for Scouts either. Sniper and Shotguns only.
Anyone else got some more restrictions to make sure people play each class the "correct" way? 1. Scouts are meant to SCOUT. That means Active Scanners. That means we need to prevent Logis from fitting Active Scanners, because that's what the Scout does. 2. While you're at it, Logis aren't meant to be fighting, they're meant for SUPPORT. Take away ALL the weapon slots. 3. What? NO. Scouts shouldn't be using Shotguns, they're designed for ASSAULTING enemies in close quarters. Sniper Rifle only.
More seriously, no.
Oh you're right! I forgot that shotguns are assault weapons. Well that only leaves sniping for scouts so they can relay info back to the team!
And fine, Scouts can only equip active scanners! But nothing else and Heavy and Assault both get no equipment.
Deal? |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:31:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Rorschach Mustang wrote:I know, but every solution I've seen hinders the entire class. Why? I have no idea... Assault players don't understand logic or balance. All they have to do is change the bonus for the Caldari suit, or change the bonus for the assault class. Personally I would go with 2% damage per level for assaults. but no, they have to nerf everything
Someone suggested swap the Caldari assault and Logi bonus. Why does assault get a nanohive bonus to begin with? That would be a perfect bonus to a Logi player! |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:38:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Rorschach Mustang wrote:
Someone suggested swap the Caldari assault and Logi bonus. Why does assault get a nanohive bonus to begin with? That would be a perfect bonus to a Logi player!
They have a shield recharge bonus... not nano-hive 
Huh... I thought one race suit had a nanohive bonus. Must have misread something. Well the result still works. Give Caldari Logi a bonus to how effective a nanohive can be. That would get rid of the shield bonus people are complaining about. |
Rorschach Mustang
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:48:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Nothing is OP.
Sincerely,
Rynoceros' Shotgun
No, no. It's if it kills you, it's OP. If you kill someone with it, it's working just fine! |
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