DUST Search - Balance logis, dont break them

Phoenix Arakyd wrote:

Telcontar Dunedain wrote:

Phoenix Arakyd wrote:

Taking away the ability to use a light weapon would be a huge mistake, no one would run logi. They already sacrifice speed and a sidearm slot to carry extra gear, they just need to be brought in line to be less durable. The current Caldari logi is ridic OP due to its slot layout and bonuses. Requiring this suits only change to force sidearms only wouldnt stop super tankers, infact, they'd have even more cpu and pg to fit higher end mods.

You're only going to balance this by toning down the bonuses and removing some low slots, otherwise you risk damaging the Logi class all together.

Too many kneejerk nerf requests going around broke the HMG, tanks, and other crap for the beginning of this build.

Hmm

The problem at the moment is logi are way too tanky.

Willing to become much less tanky and keep the light weapon?

Yea, thats the only thing thats gonna fix it. Requiring them to goto SMG's or something would just make them OP CQC brawlers. Take away some of that tanking ability, and they will be fine. Minmatar is already the most balanced of the 4, so it can pretty much be left alone. Caldari will need a drop to 2% per leve l for shields, or a new skill bonus altogether. Cant say much about Amarr or gallente yet but I'm sure they will need a look over too. Bascially, they shouldnt get any kind of HP bonus, thats more of an assault or heavy thing. Logi's should get bonuses to support (armor rep, hacks, nanite cluster level in hive etc..)


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Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 385	Posted - 2013.05.11 01:25:00 - [1] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Taking away the ability to use a light weapon would be a huge mistake, no one would run logi. They already sacrifice speed and a sidearm slot to carry extra gear, they just need to be brought in line to be less durable. The current Caldari logi is ridic OP due to its slot layout and bonuses. Requiring this suits only change to force sidearms only wouldnt stop super tankers, infact, they'd have even more cpu and pg to fit higher end mods. You're only going to balance this by toning down the bonuses and removing some low slots, otherwise you risk damaging the Logi class all together. Too many kneejerk nerf requests going around broke the HMG, tanks, and other crap for the beginning of this build. Hmm The problem at the moment is logi are way too tanky. Willing to become much less tanky and keep the light weapon?
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 385	Posted - 2013.05.11 01:33:00 - [2] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Taking away the ability to use a light weapon would be a huge mistake, no one would run logi. They already sacrifice speed and a sidearm slot to carry extra gear, they just need to be brought in line to be less durable. The current Caldari logi is ridic OP due to its slot layout and bonuses. Requiring this suits only change to force sidearms only wouldnt stop super tankers, infact, they'd have even more cpu and pg to fit higher end mods. You're only going to balance this by toning down the bonuses and removing some low slots, otherwise you risk damaging the Logi class all together. Too many kneejerk nerf requests going around broke the HMG, tanks, and other crap for the beginning of this build. Hmm The problem at the moment is logi are way too tanky. Willing to become much less tanky and keep the light weapon? Yea, thats the only thing thats gonna fix it. Requiring them to goto SMG's or something would just make them OP CQC brawlers. Take away some of that tanking ability, and they will be fine. Minmatar is already the most balanced of the 4, so it can pretty much be left alone. Caldari will need a drop to 2% per leve l for shields, or a new skill bonus altogether. Cant say much about Amarr or gallente yet but I'm sure they will need a look over too. Bascially, they shouldnt get any kind of HP bonus, thats more of an assault or heavy thing. Logi's should get bonuses to support (armor rep, hacks, nanite cluster level in hive etc..) I edited my OP Basically maybe some of the suits specializations should lose light weapon and keep the tank?