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NeoWraith Acedia
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:38:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Purona wrote:logi suits have a few flaws
slower recharge shields slower and shields take longer before recharging as well as having lower shields and armor
you might be able to stack shield on a logi but its going to repair at 20 hp per second after 6 seconds have passed
we might be able to cover up the flaws with modules but the assult suit doesnt have to do that
Sadly, that does nothing to the fact that they are used as assaults more than real assaults. When we look at the bigger picture of what we are actually seeing on the battlefield, we can conclude that those drawbacks are not enough, to define their role. The improved movement speed is more than enough reason to use an assault suit over a logi suit. |
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:53:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Quote:The improved movement speed is more than enough reason to use an assault suit over a logi suit. The Hornet Army Of Death (yeah hyperbole) would like to disagree. Again looking at numbers gets moot the moment they don't do what they're supposed to do. People use the logi suits because they see the high slot count and automatically assume that will be enough to make them "god mode", that isn't necessarily true. I agreee that logis could get a slot cut here and there, but not by too much. Anyone who thinks the extra slots will make them better assault players are wrong. |
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NeoWraith Acedia
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:07:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Quote:The improved movement speed is more than enough reason to use an assault suit over a logi suit. The Hornet Army Of Death (yeah hyperbole) would like to disagree. Again looking at numbers gets moot the moment they don't do what they're supposed to do. People use the logi suits because they see the high slot count and automatically assume that will be enough to make them "god mode", that isn't necessarily true. I agreee that logis could get a slot cut here and there, but not by too much. Anyone who thinks the extra slots will make them better assault players are wrong. I wouldn't even reduce their slotcount. Beeing somewhat tanky feels not unreasonable to me. Replace the light slot with a sidearm, so they can defend themself if needed but are really dependant on the teammates. You now have a class that not only cannot cross into the others role but is actively encouraged to fullfill it's own one (stay with your team, provide support, they'll defend you). ...no, just no. |
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:13:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:...no, just no. I am stunned by your intricate and detailed reasoning... I would give up all my slots before I would give up my main weapon.
Taking the main weapon from any role essentially makes it dead weight. |
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:18:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Your #1 reason is wrong. The other suits don't suck, the logi just has everything. LIterally, they have the light weapon, all the equipment slots, and practically all the high/low slots. That's not a logi suit, it's a god suit. No such suit should exist. It's not as fast and doesn't have a side weapon.
As shown by the Amarr Logi, that side weapon is worth 2 slots.
Though if they cut it down to 4:3, 3:4, slots and the min suit lost a little more HP then everything would be fine. |
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:33:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote: How do you define Define Logistics, again?
As a medium suit that's traded in some of it's base speed and health for a higher slot count, while also switching it's side arm for equipment so that it can support it's team instead of slaying.
You guys are underestimating the worth of a side arm. So let me ask you, what side arm do most laser users use? A SMG? Bingo. Why? Because it allows them to overcome the inherent weakness of their main weapon. Side arm's add a whole different layer of versatility, as does equipment. But neither is necessarily better than the other.
Of course, the Caldari suit is a little too good, but that could be fixed easily by lowering it's bonus or it's slot count.
No one ever said logi's had to be purely support roles. |
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