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Terarrim
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:16:00 -
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I posted this in another of these threads. I would like to add that using the Amarr medium frame my kdr and warpoints are usually higher due to higher speed, better pg so less nerfing of shields, armour and able to run a proto support toold, able to do what i want rather than being in danger all the time. And not having a yellow flag on my body screaming kill me quick! Lastly not having to deal with the danger of trying to revive people for an extended amount of time and trying to rep people when the dam rep gun wont fire and when it does goes on the wrong person.
How dare anyone suggest that my Proto Amarr Logi Suit is better than anything if they havent played it. I am a support logi so far I have spent near 11 million sp and i am currently on a huge nerf compared to last build. I am slower I can only afford level 4 nanos due to pg and cant afford to get level 5 specs in engineering. I didn't have enough to skill up in my main weapon. I had to get the proto suit to even have enough points to get an advanced nano injector, proto repair tool and advanced nano hive. I have to give up allot of speed all my offence at the moment due to unable to afford more than exile and packed av gren when in the last build I used proto on every equipment slot avanced weapon and proto grens for further support to my team.
So here are my issues with me:
1. Proto suit has cost me offence and support through proto grens and bpo guns
2. Bright yellow on my suit has made me a target amounst my fellows
3. I am way slower since my suit is slow plus to take advantage of racial bonus I have to have armour to take advantage of repers.
4. I cant afford stamina buffs Sp wise for a long time as I still havent got core skills or maxed my support passives e.g. armor, enginegenering, support, armour reppers (self) or even any type of points in weaponry atm.
5. Even if I was level 5 in nano hives I cant afford to run proto nano injectors or proto nanohives due to having more slots than my assault but less base pg. This is to say nothing of being to use more than advanced weapons or grens.
For me as an Amarr Support logi this build has been a massive nerf I am equimpent slots down, and massive PG nerf means I cant support my team like I used to I have to make major sacrifices in offence, support or defence.
I don't know about caldari logi's but for me as a support logi as Amarr I have allready had a massive nerf in both pg and skill points I cannot do what I did in chromazone.
If assault players are using logi's to do assault by not specing in support and only using slots for pure offence why the hell would one nerf me who is struggling to be anywhere near as efficent on the battlefield as I was before. Before I was good at everything but master at none. Now I am poor at many things and good at one or two things.
My logi needs a buff in order to do what the discription says i.e. to be a support character who can dish out the damage. Because as of now I have the least PG, least equipment slots and cost a huge price in SP to make the proto suit work at minimal proto support levels.
In order to be a viable support class I had to talk to my clan leader and explain that I would have to be baby sat during engagments as by spending my points in proto logi and proto repair and advanced nanos has severly affected my ability to defend myself against advanced or proto gear players.
Nerfing the logi's are going to drive the support logi's out of the game. I want buffs to do my job properly not nerfs that are going to force me to run a severly gimped assault with tiny amount of support.
The problem isn't logi support the problem is people min maxing everything to get the best fit to kill i.e. running caldari suit with tac duval with damage modifiers etc. Nerfing logi's means nefring support the very people who are there to help people out in the game not the 90 pecent of the people who are just intrested in killing people. |
Terarrim
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:44:00 -
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Tiberion Deci wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:[lThere needs to be a way to make Logi suits more about Logi. Maybe a penalty to equiping higher tier weapons? Like instead of costing a flat amount of cpu/pg they take up a percentage of each? Like basic light weapins take 35%, advanced takes 45, proto 55, officer 60? Percentages can be tweaked, I'm unfamiliar with the pg/cpu output on logi suits (I roll fatty) but perhaps something like that? Or lower their overall cpu/ pg but give them a class bonus to reduce cpu/pg consumption of equipment (not sure how that one woukd work, people could just forgo the equipment still). I think cpu/pg penalties to "offensive" modules and high end weapons may help.
Thats the thing that people don't understand though at the moment on my Amarr suit with engineering level 4 I got two enahanced plate 3 complex shields 1 enhanced repper, advanced nano injector, advanced nano hive proto repper, exile and toxin, 1 packed av gren. and im almost at my pg limit. I only have 4 proto items on my proto suit everything else is advanced or less. My support skilsl have been nerfed to the knees due to pg being so dam low and the cost of the sp so high. I have to make huge sacrfices in support, defence or offence. It is simply not possible unlike last build to have proto support, proto defence and proto offence.
i feel nerfed to the knees and having to pay through the nose for it and people want to nerf me further to. It's why im so angry due to the bugs in the game I cant support my team mate so well, due to the SP increase and the PG nerf I cant support my team mates so well or defend myself so well.
I want a buff to my pg at the very least in order to do have at least advanced firepower ontop of proto defence and support. All this logi is overpowered because they can do proto support and proto assault at the same time is pure bull to be honest.
Just interms of Sp I would require 31 million Sp to get to where I was during last build and even then I coudn't fit it all due to the sever pg limitations. The frustrating thing is my CPU is now very high but in order to use that with CPU to PG convertor I would lose a low slot meaning my character has even less defence.
If the people moaning about how hard logi's are actually skilled SUPPORT LOGI's then tried to be a killing machine then they would have something to say. That's not whats happening though assaults are speccing into logi suits and just min maxing tac duvals and the suit to get the best dps/hp they can. Then we have other assaults saying nerf us. Im very annoyed with this to say the least.
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