DUST Search - Current situation of logis

shaman oga wrote:

KingBabar wrote:

shaman oga wrote:

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I have a Caldari Logi suit, it normally has a medkit, nanohives and a scanner, I have an alternate loadout with uplinks. Its not like I don't use my equipment, I use it all the time. Do you mean that I should not fire my gun and take a part in the action when my equipment is not needed?

In SI we had 2 dedicated "combat logis" in the previous build. They both run with various equipment and has proto weapons and modules on it. They both have a KDR running as a Logi between 4,5-5,5 - I'm pretty sure that I would have the same or even better if I'd run as a combat fittet Logi in the previous builds. The main reason for me going Logi now is that they reduced the equipment slots on the proto assault suits.

I think its more of a case off many high quality assault players turning into Logis, you know, the kind of people with skill and gungame. Earlier, we mostly had "dedicated teamplayers" running as Logis, not exactly the best killers out there....

And I hate the notion being fitted to either slay or support, whats wrong with being able to do both? As I to some extent used to do with my previous VK1 assault suit.

If I am to choose between being a pure killer, or being in a support suit that is terrible in combat, I don't really see myself playing this game much more, I'd hget bored out of my mind in after day 1.

My pov is different, i'm more an rpg player, i think that if you pick the logi class you should give more importance to support than to killing, in all the rpgs be a jack of all trades it's not worth (maybe funny but not effective as power play build), but with the logi as they are now you can be much more effective than an assault class when you want to do the job of an assault and be also effective as logi when you do the logi work.
Isn't this a little bit OP for you?


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KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 564	Posted - 2013.05.10 10:19:00 - [1] - Quote Yes having the freedom to make a hybrid killer/support class, decent but not the best at both is just silly
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 566	Posted - 2013.05.10 10:56:00 - [2] - Quote shaman oga wrote: the point is, why do they play assault with a logi and not do the logi with their logi? Because it's worth. I will agree on every post that will suggest the logi turn back to be a logi I have a Caldari Logi suit, it normally has a medkit, nanohives and a scanner, I have an alternate loadout with uplinks. Its not like I don't use my equipment, I use it all the time. Do you mean that I should not fire my gun and take a part in the action when my equipment is not needed? In SI we had 2 dedicated "combat logis" in the previous build. They both run with various equipment and has proto weapons and modules on it. They both have a KDR running as a Logi between 4,5-5,5 - I'm pretty sure that I would have the same or even better if I'd run as a combat fittet Logi in the previous builds. The main reason for me going Logi now is that they reduced the equipment slots on the proto assault suits. I think its more of a case off many high quality assault players turning into Logis, you know, the kind of people with skill and gungame. Earlier, we mostly had "dedicated teamplayers" running as Logis, not exactly the best killers out there.... And I hate the notion being fitted to either slay or support, whats wrong with being able to do both? As I to some extent used to do with my previous VK1 assault suit. If I am to choose between being a pure killer, or being in a support suit that is terrible in combat, I don't really see myself playing this game much more, I'd hget bored out of my mind in after day 1.
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 575	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:40:00 - [3] - Quote shaman oga wrote: KingBabar wrote: shaman oga wrote: cut I have a Caldari Logi suit, it normally has a medkit, nanohives and a scanner, I have an alternate loadout with uplinks. Its not like I don't use my equipment, I use it all the time. Do you mean that I should not fire my gun and take a part in the action when my equipment is not needed? In SI we had 2 dedicated "combat logis" in the previous build. They both run with various equipment and has proto weapons and modules on it. They both have a KDR running as a Logi between 4,5-5,5 - I'm pretty sure that I would have the same or even better if I'd run as a combat fittet Logi in the previous builds. The main reason for me going Logi now is that they reduced the equipment slots on the proto assault suits. I think its more of a case off many high quality assault players turning into Logis, you know, the kind of people with skill and gungame. Earlier, we mostly had "dedicated teamplayers" running as Logis, not exactly the best killers out there.... And I hate the notion being fitted to either slay or support, whats wrong with being able to do both? As I to some extent used to do with my previous VK1 assault suit. If I am to choose between being a pure killer, or being in a support suit that is terrible in combat, I don't really see myself playing this game much more, I'd hget bored out of my mind in after day 1. My pov is different, i'm more an rpg player, i think that if you pick the logi class you should give more importance to support than to killing, in all the rpgs be a jack of all trades it's not worth (maybe funny but not effective as power play build), but with the logi as they are now you can be much more effective than an assault class when you want to do the job of an assault and be also effective as logi when you do the logi work. Isn't this a little bit OP for you? -Much more effective than an assault class when I want to? Really? More effective? Out of the 12 slots I have, 3 goes to shield extenders, the other 2 high slots goes for shield rechargers cause 20 per sec just doesn't cut it for the frontline gameplay, 3 for equipment off course, and on my low slots I have a red and a green module, just to barely keep up with the assault suits, a basic armor plate and a cpu upgrade. In short, at least 4 of those 12 slots goes just for movement and shield recharge SPEED, a quality you all seem to be forgetting. I'm not sure but I'm pretty certain I could fit a combat fitted, lets say Caldari assault suit that is better for combat. I'll get roughly the same stats but have a much higher STRAFEING SPEED which I cannot do anything about as a logi. Its also specialised in terms of its shield tank, one flux or indeed the coming scrambler rifle will ruin anything yellow. Besides, the only real issue in my book is the removal of one equipment slot on the proto assault suits. Going around as a futuristic super soldier with only the one slot is just silly in my opinion. The other point is that Its almost impossible to do decent AV in a Logi suit, fit on some swarms and do what when you meet infantry? Assault: Speed/tank - sidearm - AV Logi : Tank and equipment? Doesn't seem so bad... I'd still like them to give back the second equipment slot for proto assault and with a 20/2 CPU/PG uppgrade to match i
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 576	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:53:00 - [4] - Quote And again: How many of these "beastly bumblebee" players running around like myself as a combat fitted Logi is former Assault suit wearing killers? In other words: How much is due because of the suits and how much is due because of the migration of talent gong from assault to logi?
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 576	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:04:00 - [5] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Heres my suggestion that will make people freak out and whine and moan Leave the suits alone aside from one minor detail, remove the light weapon slot and replace it with a sidearm slot YES. Yes, lets make the Logi class useless as soldiers, who wouldn't spend all their gametime being a chubby chaser or throw down hives and whatnot? Fun fun fun!!! Sidearm only is an excellent idea for a possible future officer class that has modules that benefit the entire squad and not just himself. Only the most "badass" people will dare go officer suits....