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Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:53:00 -
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Despite the fact that their art team may not have finished them, they could STILL technically implement them into the game. The only thing they would have to do is use the existing suits that we have now as place holders.
Assuming they already have all the stats for every suit already typed up, all they would need to do is use the suits we have now, change their primary colors to fit with the art theme for each race, then take those new suit templates, and implement all of the statistics for each of the missing racial suits.
Would you all care if they used the Amarr Heavy model as a place holder for all of the other missing heavy models? Would you care if the only visual thing separating them is their color? You would every heavy suit, the stats would be edited to fit their races. The only thing that would be identical is their model But. that would change as the new models are released, as they would only be place holders.
They could do the same thing with vehicles. Which would have given us all of the racial tanks, which would have supported CCP's idea of stealth nerfing what we have now without actually giving us the rest of the blocks to play with.
We could have every racial rifle. Brown scrambler rifles to represent the minni rifle. Make blue Assault rifles to represent the Caldari rail rifle.
We could have had a complete game if they just used their current models as place holders.
It would have been so easy. It would have made so many of us happy. So what if so things looked identical, atleast all the blocks that would have been needed to build the sand box would have been in place.
Content Before the visuals.
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Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:56:00 -
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+1, very nice post, I really wish they would of done this. Now I have a ton of skill points into the amarr heavy suit. |
Specter RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:59:00 -
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Content is great but you know how some people are now a days
"DEUD LUK ET DEES ****** GRAPHIKS MAN THEY LOOK SO TERRIBLE 4/10 MAN"
Or something of that matter. I understand where you're coming from but sending out unfinished content is horrible on consumer appeal. I do take Gameplay over graphics any day but from how some of the graphifags around it would just downright hurt the appeal of the game.
I would definetly enjoy the Heavy suits early, no doubt because Im also a heavy but at the moment I'm neutral on your subject. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
231
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:00:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:Despite the fact that their art team may not have finished all of the 3D models in this game. they could STILL technically implement everything into the game. The only thing they would have to do is use the existing suits that we have now as place holders for what we don't have.
Assuming they already have all the stats for every suit already typed up, all they would need to do is use the suits we have now, change their primary colors to fit with the art theme for each race, then take those new suit templates, and implement all of the statistics for each of the missing racial suits.
Would you all care if they used the Amarr Heavy model as a place holder for all of the other missing heavy models? Would you care if the only visual thing separating them is their color? You would every heavy suit, the stats would be edited to fit their races. The only thing that would be identical is their model But. that would change as the new models are released, as they would only be place holders.
They could do the same thing with vehicles. Which would have given us all of the racial tanks, which would have supported CCP's idea of stealth nerfing what we have now without actually giving us the rest of the blocks to play with.
We could have every racial rifle. Brown scrambler rifles to represent the minni rifle. Make blue Assault rifles to represent the Caldari rail rifle.
We could have had a complete game if they just used their current models as place holders.
It would have been so easy. It would have made so many of us happy. So what if so things looked identical, atleast all the blocks that would have been needed to build the sand box would have been in place.
Content Before the visuals.
I think i would rather them do it the right way and take their time. It doesn't matter what CCP does at this point. If they had done what you suggested and presented that at fanfest it would have only provoked people.
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
279
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:05:00 -
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Mortal Kombat survived with color swaps, so can DUST! |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:08:00 -
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I think it came to two options:
Deal with complaints of missing gear.
Deal with complaints of gear/vehicles not being finished. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
279
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:10:00 -
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Marston VC wrote: I think i would rather them do it the right way
Releasing the game without those other things certainly isn't the right way to do things either, but obviously they cared more about being clever than doing things "the right way". |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
279
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:12:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:I think it came to two options:
Deal with complaints of missing gear.
Deal with complaints of gear/vehicles not being finished. But what the OP is saying is that they didn't have to have missing anything. Just look at logis and assaults, they lack proper models but they're doing just fine for now.
We should have just kept the 4 original suits and recolored those. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
45
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:19:00 -
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Furthermore how hard is it to make a map of an inside of eve ship?
Couldn't they just paste together some of the interiors we already have in game?
Didn't we just get a huge nerf to encourage close quarter combat?
Wouldn't a space ship be the perfect place for map design to do that instead? |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:23:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Furthermore how hard is it to make a map of an inside of eve ship?
Couldn't they just paste together some of the interiors we already have in game? That world not have worked. the interiors we have are far too small to make up the interiors of a titan.
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
45
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:24:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:hooc order wrote:Furthermore how hard is it to make a map of an inside of eve ship?
Couldn't they just paste together some of the interiors we already have in game? That world not have worked. the interiors we have are far too small to make up the interiors of a titan.
Who said anything about a titan?
Also i would like to point out we are on planets where we fight...you ever see that red line warning? |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:30:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:hooc order wrote:Furthermore how hard is it to make a map of an inside of eve ship?
Couldn't they just paste together some of the interiors we already have in game? That world not have worked. the interiors we have are far too small to make up the interiors of a titan. Also i would like to point out we are on planets where we fight...you ever see that red line warning? What does that have to do with anything?
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Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:31:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Furthermore how hard is it to make a map of an inside of eve ship?
Couldn't they just paste together some of the interiors we already have in game?
Didn't we just get a huge nerf to encourage close quarter combat?
Wouldn't a space ship be the perfect place for map design to do that instead? This is why I absolutely dread playing on Manus Peak at the moment. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
279
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:32:00 -
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Building a map is a bit harder than just re-coloring suits... |
Nariec
Carbon 7
7
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:35:00 -
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+ 1 To this, because I'm planning on running ALL my gears and vehicles Caldari only lol. |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
520
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:37:00 -
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it feels like they already have in a way.
Lets take the Gallente assault rifle and its variants.
Gallente assault rifle - short range good damage high tracking speed
Tactical AR - high alpha slow rate of fire - the upcoming caldari rail rifle would fill the same role
burst assault rifle - short burst good tracking - minmatar battle rifle (from what they described during fanfest)
breach AR - who knows?
so with the weapons at least they have put some other things into the game. albeit the mini BR will do more to armor than shields and hopefully be more usefull than the current burst. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
128
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:58:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:it feels like they already have in a way.
Lets take the Gallente assault rifle and its variants.
Gallente assault rifle - short range good damage high tracking speed
Tactical AR - high alpha slow rate of fire - the upcoming caldari rail rifle would fill the same role
burst assault rifle - short burst good tracking - minmatar battle rifle (from what they described during fanfest)
breach AR - who knows?
so with the weapons at least they have put some other things into the game. albeit the mini BR will do more to armor than shields and hopefully be more usefull than the current burst.
They said the Caldari rifle was like a Breach actually. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
128
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:59:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:I think it came to two options:
Deal with complaints of missing gear.
Deal with complaints of gear/vehicles not being finished. But what the OP is saying is that they didn't have to have missing anything. Just look at logis and assaults, they lack proper models but they're doing just fine for now. We should have just kept the 4 original suits and recolored those.
Logis aren't doing fine, they're yellow. They would've been better off without the color-scheme as assault-clones. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
45
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:00:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:hooc order wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:hooc order wrote:Furthermore how hard is it to make a map of an inside of eve ship?
Couldn't they just paste together some of the interiors we already have in game? That world not have worked. the interiors we have are far too small to make up the interiors of a titan. Also i would like to point out we are on planets where we fight...you ever see that red line warning? What does that have to do with anything?
So it is ok to have battles on a planet but a titan is just too too big..... |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
298
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:01:00 -
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Thought about this a lot and yes, they probably should do this. |
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Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
522
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:04:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:it feels like they already have in a way.
Lets take the Gallente assault rifle and its variants.
Gallente assault rifle - short range good damage high tracking speed
Tactical AR - high alpha slow rate of fire - the upcoming caldari rail rifle would fill the same role
burst assault rifle - short burst good tracking - minmatar battle rifle (from what they described during fanfest)
breach AR - who knows?
so with the weapons at least they have put some other things into the game. albeit the mini BR will do more to armor than shields and hopefully be more usefull than the current burst. They said the Caldari rifle was like a Breach actually.
Dafuq? how did i miss this? the caldari masters of missiles and railguns doing a 180 and making a CQC weapon... the devs seem to be eating to many magic shrooms... |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
280
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:05:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:I think it came to two options:
Deal with complaints of missing gear.
Deal with complaints of gear/vehicles not being finished. But what the OP is saying is that they didn't have to have missing anything. Just look at logis and assaults, they lack proper models but they're doing just fine for now. We should have just kept the 4 original suits and recolored those. Logis aren't doing fine, they're yellow. They would've been better off without the color-scheme as assault-clones. Aside from that |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:05:00 -
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How does anyone know anything about the inside of a titan? |
Barack Ownbama
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
162
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:20:00 -
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Can I just point out that they're also probably testing the weapons still to make adjustments? Releasing them early would probably have lead to another "HMG IS OP! NERF NOW" debacle. I'd rather they take they're time to make not only the weapon look good, but also be balanced. |
RINON114
B.S.A.A.
144
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:27:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:Despite the fact that their art team may not have finished all of the 3D models in this game. they could STILL technically implement everything into the game. The only thing they would have to do is use the existing suits that we have now as place holders for what we don't have.
Assuming they already have all the stats for every suit already typed up, all they would need to do is use the suits we have now, change their primary colors to fit with the art theme for each race, then take those new suit templates, and implement all of the statistics for each of the missing racial suits.
Would you all care if they used the Amarr Heavy model as a place holder for all of the other missing heavy models? Would you care if the only visual thing separating them is their color? You would have every heavy suit, the stats would be edited to fit their races. The only thing that would be identical is their model But. that would change as the new models are released, as they would only be place holders.
They could do the same thing with vehicles. Which would have given us all of the racial tanks, which would have supported CCP's idea of stealth nerfing what we have now without actually giving us the rest of the blocks to play with.
We could have every racial rifle. Brown scrambler rifles to represent the minni rifle. Blue Assault rifles to represent the Caldari rail rifle.
We could have had a complete game if they just used their current models as place holders.
It would have been so easy. It would have made so many of us happy. So what if some things looked identical, atleast all the blocks that would have been needed to build the sand box would have been in place.
Content before the visuals. The principal is sound but think of it like this:
GÇ£Oh man I just got wiped out by an Amarr heavy, better equip my armour damaging AR!GÇ¥
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GÇ£Oh wait, just been killed again, turns out if was a Caldari heavy...GÇ¥
You see my point? Colouration could help alleviate this as you suggest but probably not by much, especially at a distance. I personally have no problem with the idea either but I feel like a lot of people would.
Also, don't you think they need something for the next build? |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
45
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:15:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:How does anyone know anything about the inside of a titan?
I know it is smaller then a planet. |
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