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Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:32:00 -
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Chromosome
+ Great Shooting/Aiming Mechanics + Great balance between SP Gain and Skill book Multipliers + Great blance between all roles + Weapon Balance was Perfect besides Variety of competitive weapons in the AR class, All weapons were Viable. + Fluid Movement + Fun
- Horrible UI - Abundance of game crashing glitches - Mediocre graphics - Only 4 man squads - Terrain - Tacnet was OP - Horrible Melee - Tank Dominance/Abuse - Horrible Spawn System - Sharpshooter Skill broke most weapons - Dropships sucked - Horrendous matchmaking - Lack of Game modes
Uprising
+ Superb UI + Corporation Management upgraded + 6 Man Squads + Free Voice communication across all channels + Superb graphics + Less Glictches + Better balance between AV and Tanks + New Dropsuits + New Weapons + Dropships suck less + Added Game Modes + Viable Melee mechanic + Tacnet more balanced
- Attrocious Shooting/Aiming Mechanics - Number of Viable, Competitive weapons reduced - Imbalance between SP Gain and Skill SP Cost - Invisible walls - SP Sink - Weapon Range Decrease is too extreme - Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle - Revive/Call for help system sucks - Nanohives nerfed to hard - Nade 514 - Ambush reduced to continuous Giant Blob, only 20% of map occupied in any given game - Specialized suits cost too much SP for the minimal benefit - Not fun
+/- Planetary conquest
So Which one would you rather have right now if you had the choice. |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:39:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:---------------------------------------- Chromosome
+ Great Shooting/Aiming Mechanics + Great balance between SP Gain and Skill book Multipliers + Great blance between all roles + Weapon Balance was Perfect besides Variety of competitive weapons in the AR class, All weapons were Viable. + Fluid Movement + Fun
- Horrible UI - Abundance of game crashing glitches - Mediocre graphics - Only 4 man squads - Terrain - Horrible Melee - Tank Dominance/Abuse - Horrible Spawn System - Sharpshooter Skill broke most weapons - Dropships sucked - Horrendous matchmaking - Lack of Game modes
Uprising
+ Superb UI + Corporation Management upgraded + 6 Man Squads + Free Voice communication across all channels + Superb graphics + Less Glictches + Better balance between AV and Tanks + New Dropsuits + New Weapons + Dropships suck less + Added Game Modes + Viable Melee mechanic
- Attrocious Shooting/Aiming Mechanics - Number of Viable, Competitive weapons reduced - Imbalance between SP Gain and Skill SP Cost - Invisible walls - SP Sink - Weapon Range Decrease is too extreme - Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle - Revive/Call for help system sucks - Nanohives nerfed to hard - Nade 514 - Ambush reduced to continuous Giant Blob, only 20% of map occupied in any given game - Specialized suits cost too much SP for the minimal benefit - Not fun
+/- Planetary conquest
So Which one would you rather have right now if you had the choice. While I don't agree with the less glitches part for uprising everything is close I'd add that skirmish redlined need to be reworked having enemy red lines with high ground that can't be got to is unfair I think but....
To answer the op I'd be a happy panda with chrome and just PC |
SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
188
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:39:00 -
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how about instead of switching between the 2 CCP just adds all the pros together to make this: + Great Shooting/Aiming Mechanics + Great balance between SP Gain and Skill book Multipliers + Great blance between all roles + Weapon Balance was Perfect besides Variety of competitive weapons in the AR class, All weapons were Viable. + Fluid Movement + Fun + Superb UI + Corporation Management upgraded + 6 Man Squads + Free Voice communication across all channels + Superb graphics + Less Glictches + Better balance between AV and Tanks + New Dropsuits + New Weapons + Dropships suck less + Added Game Modes + Viable Melee mechanic + Tacnet more balanced
^^ perfect game right here |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
76
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:41:00 -
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I'm a heavy, do I need to answer your last question?
+1 for the post by the way. |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:43:00 -
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SCAT mania wrote:how about instead of switching between the 2 CCP just adds all the pros together to make this: + Great Shooting/Aiming Mechanics + Great balance between SP Gain and Skill book Multipliers + Great blance between all roles + Weapon Balance was Perfect besides Variety of competitive weapons in the AR class, All weapons were Viable. + Fluid Movement + Fun + Superb UI + Corporation Management upgraded + 6 Man Squads + Free Voice communication across all channels + Superb graphics + Less Glictches + Better balance between AV and Tanks + New Dropsuits + New Weapons + Dropships suck less + Added Game Modes + Viable Melee mechanic + Tacnet more balanced
^^ perfect game right here to be honest this is the only road map ccp needs ATM everything else can wait ^^ Get dust back to this and we have a releaseable game my friends |
Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
222
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:45:00 -
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Just bring back chromosome add all the new additions, an graphics. An call it good. Chromosome had a smooth feel to it the gun game was 10x better. I guess we just have to deal with what we got untill the next build though. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
20
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:45:00 -
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cant we just have chromosome back? it wud be a fulfilling way to pass the time till uprising is fixed/scrapped and rebuilt. |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
396
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:46:00 -
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Look here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72735&find=unread |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
112
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:46:00 -
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I'd like to say the spawn system in Uprising is better Overall, but the Ambush Blob Vs. Blob spawns make me think they need more work.
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Nstomper
The Sangheli
396
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:47:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:cant we just have chromosome back? it wud be a fulfilling way to pass the time till uprising is fixed/scrapped and rebuilt. No |
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Nstomper
The Sangheli
396
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:49:00 -
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All your issues are known i bet half or all you dont even post stuff in technical support thread |
General John Ripper
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
148
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:49:00 -
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I was much happier with chrome. aiming is soooo broken right now. On a good game I can get 20-30 kills on chrome with less than 5 deaths. Now I am just lucky to get 5 kills.
Even in a tank. I was shooting inside one of them and the enemy was RIGHT in front of me. not moving at all. And for some reason none of my bullets were hitting him??? I cant believe he was out of range... he was right there right in front of me! same thing with my AR. The aiming sucks. |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
396
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:50:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:I was much happier with chrome. aiming is soooo broken right now. On a good game I can get 20-30 kills on chrome with less than 5 deaths. Now I am just lucky to get 5 kills.
Even in a tank. I was shooting inside one of them and the enemy was RIGHT in front of me. not moving at all. And for some reason none of my bullets were hitting him??? I cant believe he was out of range... he was right there right in front of me! same thing with my AR. The aiming sucks. Aiming known To Be Fixed https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72735&find=unread |
Zatara Rought
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
140
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:52:00 -
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scouts were not that balanced last build, they had no place in serious competitive play. But I think if they fix the shooting mechanics and continue to make the scout more viable as a class then hey, success CCP.
ATM I'd rather have chromosome, because (for me) shooting mechanics are the foundation of any shooter. |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
112
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:53:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:cant we just have chromosome back? it wud be a fulfilling way to pass the time till uprising is fixed/scrapped and rebuilt. No
Create a separate server that hosts the Chromosome build, all stats, Inventory, ISK, and SP are locked in as before updating to Uprising. Only ISK gained from matches but will stay locked in with your time in Chromosome(Doesn't carry over to Uprising)
Upon signing in, give the option to select what build you would like to play.
You'd be essentially playing a No Risk, No Reward, dead build for the sole purpose that you find it more fun than Uprising.
lol I know this would never happen but it would be cool. |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
396
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:59:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Nstomper wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:cant we just have chromosome back? it wud be a fulfilling way to pass the time till uprising is fixed/scrapped and rebuilt. No Create a separate server that hosts the Chromosome build, all stats, Inventory, ISK, and SP are locked in as before updating to Uprising. Only ISK gained from matches but will stay locked in with your time in Chromosome(Doesn't carry over to Uprising) Upon signing in, give the option to select what build you would like to play. You'd be essentially playing a No Risk, No Reward, dead build for the sole purpose that you find it more fun than Uprising. lol I know this would never happen but it would be cool. That is one imagination you got there (really didnt know how to reply to that). But dont forget to check https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72735&find=unread |
Roy Xkillerz
Red Star. EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:52:00 -
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At this point I had more fun with chromosome so I am for mixing the pro's off both together and make the weapon range like 30 to 50% more. Bring back charge indicator for charge sniper and other weapons on the crosshair. For e-sports play very importent.
You forgetting one importent thing. You remember when you kill 10 people (ding dong ding dong dong) That sound is gone needs to by bring back. Even when something was lagging you would know quick enough by the sound someone was dead.
Fan sound off the charge sniper is annoying atm
But belancing idk I think it went to far this build. Chromosome was pretty ok like with PC incoming it would have fit but now with the aiming I would delay PC for a other week until everything is fixed + the respec and possible skill changes coming. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:33:00 -
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- Imbalance between SP Gain and Skill SP Cost - SP Sink - Specialized suits cost too much SP for the minimal benefit
This all can be fixed by fixing sp sink. You made 3 points out of single one ;) |
Cruor Abominare
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
17
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:37:00 -
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Chrmosome was functionally the better build in terms of gameplay. With the wider berth in weapon ranges there was a lot of interesting nuances abou taking and holding map territory and advancing along cover to take those portions. The maps were interesting because there was a lot of thought in how areas were exposed and what strengths and weaknesses they held.
In today's build of short range gangland humpingrange,it's a much less intelligent design. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:44:00 -
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Chromosome was anything but balanced. I had a proto logi with ~700 hp and went down faster than an intern at the... you get the point. I didn't have enough SP (because of the counter productive skill tree) to get into my proto, so I had to settle with the Sever T-1. I have 342 HP and damnit, I feel like I have 342 HP. People didn't have skill in Chrome, they had damage mods and sharpshooter proficiency to spray and pray in your general direction with their Plasma Blaster rounds. So don't give me that bull **** that Chrome was balanced.
Other than that, most of your points are very valid. |
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Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
94
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:26:00 -
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I would take Chromosone any day of the week. Shooting mechanics worked well and Hmg heavies were fun to play. |
supersayinb
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
55
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:31:00 -
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Let us hope they get the aiming fix out before the 14th. Releasing with these kind of fundamental shooter mechanic problems would do this game no favors with the critics. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
397
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:39:00 -
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supersayinb wrote:Let us hope they get the aiming fix out before the 14th. Releasing with these kind of fundamental shooter mechanic problems would do this game no favors with the critics.
^ |
Unit-775
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:39:00 -
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i like chromosome much more than uprising. Even the graphics where better now its to cartonish and to colorfull doesn-Št fell like war, its more like Power Rangers 514 |
Cruor Abominare
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
17
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Chromosome was anything but balanced. I had a proto logi with ~700 hp and went down faster than an intern at the... you get the point. I didn't have enough SP (because of the counter productive skill tree) to get into my proto, so I had to settle with the Sever T-1. I have 342 HP and damnit, I feel like I have 342 HP. People didn't have skill in Chrome, they had damage mods and sharpshooter proficiency to spray and pray in your general direction with their Plasma Blaster rounds. So don't give me that bull **** that Chrome was balanced.
Other than that, most of your points are very valid.
I had 600 hp in proto assault and at the end was averaging between 1 to 2 deaths a match and 15 plus kills a game in ambush. You sound like you were terrible about moving out of the way of bullets. If the screen flashed red you know you were suppose to take cover, not stand and collect bullet rounds right? Who am I kidding, your terrible feedback post already signaled you were beyond saving. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
282
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:43:00 -
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In Chrome the laser was mad ******* annoying. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
378
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:45:00 -
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You can't have a proper shooter without proper shooting mechanics.
Uprising does not have them, so the answer is obvious. |
SirManBoy
Planetary Response Organization
35
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:35:00 -
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Great post, OP. I wish we could take all of the new, non-game play elements introduced in Uprising and couple them with the gameplay and mechanics of Chromosome. Like you, I'm just not having fun anymore. |
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